Anonymous
06/28/2020 08:26
Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
What percentage of the US black population can trace back to US slavery era? In other words, if a black family first came to the US in 1950, that family wouldn’t have suffered based on past US slavery culture in the South. Correct?
Would it be fair to say that boy black families that dated back to this country pre WW2? Cause we are talking reparations for slavery; or do we want to expand to Jim Crow? Pre Civil Rights, so 1964?
I am asking to get a sense of scope.
Would it be fair to say that boy black families that dated back to this country pre WW2? Cause we are talking reparations for slavery; or do we want to expand to Jim Crow? Pre Civil Rights, so 1964?
I am asking to get a sense of scope.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 08:25
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Then, how do you explain millionaires/billionaires like Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jordan, and Bob Johnson, among many others?
Please just read books. Maybe start with any and then move onto the topic of systemic racism. And then you can actually answer your own question.
+1
And if a book is too much, read the article linked in the OP:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/24/magazine/reparations-slavery.html
This also touches on your question:
https://socialequity.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/what-we-get-wrong.pdf
Read those and get back to us.
Sorry. I won't read an article penned by a woman who believes that the destruction of businesses, many minority owned, isn't violence.
The point is - opportunities abound. It is up to the individual to take advantage of them.
Many POC have done just that. It means hard work, dedication, and perseverance.
Reparations will not help anyone develop those skills.
So how about the Duke report? Or will you find some excuse not to read that as well?
The whole point is that black people have FEWER opportunities - partly from the systemic racism that still exists today, and partly from the wealth gap caused by 400 years of US policy. Until we can narrow that gap, black people will be starting out behind and not because of any “character flaws”.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 08:17
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Nope.
They are hurt and suffering from the last 50 years of Dems mismanaging every city where AAs live.
Amen. At some point, the black community has to realize that the people they have been supporting to help their community advance, has drastically let them down.
The Dems keep holding the entire community under the thumb of free hand outs. Can’t help them if the community won’t acknowledge that fact.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 07:45
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Then, how do you explain millionaires/billionaires like Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jordan, and Bob Johnson, among many others?
Please just read books. Maybe start with any and then move onto the topic of systemic racism. And then you can actually answer your own question.
+1
And if a book is too much, read the article linked in the OP:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/24/magazine/reparations-slavery.html
This also touches on your question:
https://socialequity.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/what-we-get-wrong.pdf
Read those and get back to us.
Sorry. I won't read an article penned by a woman who believes that the destruction of businesses, many minority owned, isn't violence.
The point is - opportunities abound. It is up to the individual to take advantage of them.
Many POC have done just that. It means hard work, dedication, and perseverance.
Reparations will not help anyone develop those skills.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 07:43
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Nope.
They are hurt and suffering from the last 50 years of Dems mismanaging every city where AAs live.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 07:41
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Until someone puts details on the table about how this would work, there is no way this is ever going to happen. And, a "commission" to study it won't help either.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 07:28
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Then, how do you explain millionaires/billionaires like Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jordan, and Bob Johnson, among many others?
Please just read books. Maybe start with any and then move onto the topic of systemic racism. And then you can actually answer your own question.
+1
And if a book is too much, read the article linked in the OP:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/24/magazine/reparations-slavery.html
This also touches on your question:
https://socialequity.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/what-we-get-wrong.pdf
Read those and get back to us.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 07:13
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Then, how do you explain millionaires/billionaires like Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jordan, and Bob Johnson, among many others?
Please just read books. Maybe start with any and then move onto the topic of systemic racism. And then you can actually answer your own question.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 07:00
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Then, how do you explain millionaires/billionaires like Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jordan, and Bob Johnson, among many others?
Anonymous
06/28/2020 02:26
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Lady, how much damn money do you want me to pay you?
Anonymous
06/28/2020 02:21
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
It’s not about any particular individual.
Black people were hurt and are still suffering today from the last 400 years of abuses from US policies.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 02:19
Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:It was all shown in the 1989 movie called Do The Right Thing... remember those 3’brothers sitting on a stoop across from a Korean convenience store? Thinking how they could open it “fresh off the boat”, while no blacks own businesses in Bed- Stuy? One of them says “either they are geniuses, or we are stupid”.... something to that effect.
Classic. Throw out a racist quote from a movie that pushed excessive racist stereotypes and tropes to make a statement about racial tension in the US. Way to miss the entire point and to show your true colors.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 00:51
Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:It was all shown in the 1989 movie called Do The Right Thing... remember those 3’brothers sitting on a stoop across from a Korean convenience store? Thinking how they could open it “fresh off the boat”, while no blacks own businesses in Bed- Stuy? One of them says “either they are geniuses, or we are stupid”.... something to that effect.
The South Korean government used to lend Korean immigrants money to open businesses in the US. I'd be strongly in favor of the US government lending money to black people to open stores in black neighborhoods.
What I finds so off putting about this whole reparations argument is that I only favor giving money to people who need it today and solely because they do, in fact need it today. But I get called racist if I don't think you need to justify that need by telling me tragic stories about your ancestors.
Anonymous
06/28/2020 00:39
Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?
Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!
Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.
DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
How exactly am I racist trash?
Your comments show the racist trash you are.
DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.
That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Right, but people who are not suffering those problems today are asking for compensation for it anyway because they are suffering different problems or maybe are suffering very little at all.
Which is how we got a man who is worth $600 million asking for $350,000 in "reparations." For what? Because maybe if his father wasn't a sharecropper, he'd be worth $1 billion?
Anonymous
06/27/2020 23:21
Subject: It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.
It was all shown in the 1989 movie called Do The Right Thing... remember those 3’brothers sitting on a stoop across from a Korean convenience store? Thinking how they could open it “fresh off the boat”, while no blacks own businesses in Bed- Stuy? One of them says “either they are geniuses, or we are stupid”.... something to that effect.