Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:44
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A passenger from the Mexico voyage, Judy Cadiz of Lodi said she and her husband became ill afterward but did not give it much thought until learning a fellow traveler had died of the virus. Now they cannot get a straight answer about how to get tested, she said.
With Mark Cadiz, 65, running a fever, the couple worries not only about themselves, but about the possibility that — if they contracted the infection — they could have passed it on to others.
“They’re telling us to stay home, but nobody told me until yesterday to stay home. We were in Sacramento, we were in Martinez, we were in Oakland. We took a train home from the cruise,” Judy Cadiz said Thursday. “I really hope that we’re negative so nobody got infected.
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Oh sweet Jesus
I mean, they didn't knowingly do anything wrong.... they were on vacation, likely not paying any attention to news. They came home, felt ill, NOT unusual following travel.
Not paying attention to the news. That is knowingly doing something wrong.
Agree. You went on an international cruise and you weren't watching the news and updates on coronavirus. Just dumb.
They went to Mexico, not Asia or Italy. They had no reason to think they had coronavirus - especially during flu season.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:38
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A passenger from the Mexico voyage, Judy Cadiz of Lodi said she and her husband became ill afterward but did not give it much thought until learning a fellow traveler had died of the virus. Now they cannot get a straight answer about how to get tested, she said.
With Mark Cadiz, 65, running a fever, the couple worries not only about themselves, but about the possibility that — if they contracted the infection — they could have passed it on to others.
“They’re telling us to stay home, but nobody told me until yesterday to stay home. We were in Sacramento, we were in Martinez, we were in Oakland. We took a train home from the cruise,” Judy Cadiz said Thursday. “I really hope that we’re negative so nobody got infected.
?????????????????????????????????????????/
Oh sweet Jesus
I mean, they didn't knowingly do anything wrong.... they were on vacation, likely not paying any attention to news. They came home, felt ill, NOT unusual following travel.
Not paying attention to the news. That is knowingly doing something wrong.
Agree. You went on an international cruise and you weren't watching the news and updates on coronavirus. Just dumb.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:37
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:Weird, half a dozen hospitals in MoCo, PG, NW DC all on red status for ambulance diversion. What's using up all the ICU/ED bed space?
The flu and pneumonia. my brother is an ER doctor in Phoenix and he just told me that 95% of that city’s hospital beds are full today. he gets a report daily/weekly. 95% is typical for this time of year. It’s a busy season every year.
Hospitals WANT to run at near or full capacity or they lose money. if they’re running significantly below this they will close beds and cut staffing.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:35
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Something to consider: From an interview with a Chinese expert/doctor
Is the virus infecting almost everyone, as you would expect a novel flu to?
No — 75 to 80 percent of all clusters are in families. You get the odd ones in hospitals or restaurants or prisons, but the vast majority are in families. And only 5 to 15 percent of your close contacts develop disease. So they try to isolate you from your relatives as quickly as possible, and find everyone you had contact with in 48 hours before that.
Yes, but how to families spread it to other families? That's the key information that's missing here.
Depends on how close you consider close. Close means living in the same household. If your neighbor has it, it won't fairy dust to you. 5-15% is pretty low.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:33
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A passenger from the Mexico voyage, Judy Cadiz of Lodi said she and her husband became ill afterward but did not give it much thought until learning a fellow traveler had died of the virus. Now they cannot get a straight answer about how to get tested, she said.
With Mark Cadiz, 65, running a fever, the couple worries not only about themselves, but about the possibility that — if they contracted the infection — they could have passed it on to others.
“They’re telling us to stay home, but nobody told me until yesterday to stay home. We were in Sacramento, we were in Martinez, we were in Oakland. We took a train home from the cruise,” Judy Cadiz said Thursday. “I really hope that we’re negative so nobody got infected.
?????????????????????????????????????????/
Oh sweet Jesus
I mean, they didn't knowingly do anything wrong.... they were on vacation, likely not paying any attention to news. They came home, felt ill, NOT unusual following travel.
Not paying attention to the news. That is knowingly doing something wrong.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:33
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Interviewer: What did you do to protect yourself?
Doctor: A heap of hand-sanitizer. We wore masks, because it was government policy. We didn’t meet patients or contacts of patients or go into hospital dirty zones.
And we were socially distant. We sat one per row on the bus. We ate meals in our hotel rooms or else one person per table. In conference rooms, we sat one per table and used microphones or shouted at each other.
That’s why I’m so hoarse. But I was tested, and I know I don’t have Covid.
Doctor: A heap of hand-sanitizer. We wore masks, because it was government policy. We didn’t meet patients or contacts of patients or go into hospital dirty zones.
And we were socially distant. We sat one per row on the bus. We ate meals in our hotel rooms or else one person per table. In conference rooms, we sat one per table and used microphones or shouted at each other.
That’s why I’m so hoarse. But I was tested, and I know I don’t have Covid.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:32
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Something to consider: From an interview with a Chinese expert/doctor
Is the virus infecting almost everyone, as you would expect a novel flu to?
No — 75 to 80 percent of all clusters are in families. You get the odd ones in hospitals or restaurants or prisons, but the vast majority are in families. And only 5 to 15 percent of your close contacts develop disease. So they try to isolate you from your relatives as quickly as possible, and find everyone you had contact with in 48 hours before that.
Yes, but how to families spread it to other families? That's the key information that's missing here.
Time will tell about the mechanics about the communicability of this virus, but I think it was so wide-spread in China in due in part because of the food culture and the start of the outbreak conincided with their largest holiday of the year where literally hundreds of millions of people travel around the country to visit family. On the food culture, Chinese people eat family style, and there was a case in Hong Kong (not China but same food culture) where one person infected 10+ people over a hotpot meal. Same principle goes for the closeness o physical interactions among the Italians.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:28
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Or are they doing emergency decontamination/sanitizing?
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:28
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Weird, half a dozen hospitals in MoCo, PG, NW DC all on red status for ambulance diversion. What's using up all the ICU/ED bed space?
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:27
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm in Southern California where we are surrounded by CV - and I refuse to change how I go about my day.
Relax people! stop feeding the hysteria!
Well, I have a 92 year old grandma with lung disease and parents in their 60s, one of whom has underlying health problems, so yeah — I’m somewhat concerned.
There are estimates that 40% of the population could get it. With a 3 percent fatality rate, that’s roughly 4 million deaths in the USA.
The 3 percent fatality rate is a gross overestimate. They are so many mild cases of the virus that are not diagnosed.
It's an "underestimate" if you consider the 15% rate for 80+ people.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:27
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:Something to consider: From an interview with a Chinese expert/doctor
Is the virus infecting almost everyone, as you would expect a novel flu to?
No — 75 to 80 percent of all clusters are in families. You get the odd ones in hospitals or restaurants or prisons, but the vast majority are in families. And only 5 to 15 percent of your close contacts develop disease. So they try to isolate you from your relatives as quickly as possible, and find everyone you had contact with in 48 hours before that.
Yes, but how to families spread it to other families? That's the key information that's missing here.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:26
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Anonymous wrote:I think everyone needs to calm down a bit. Coronavirus is not as contagious as a lot of things. Yes more testing is needed, but for now it’s being rationed to people most likely to need it. Which is good because otherwise everyone with a sniffle and anxiety would be demanding a test. The important thing is to stay home if you’re sick, wash hands, and consider skipping big gatherings.
I just cross posted similar under your post
Anonymous
03/06/2020 12:25
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
Something to consider: From an interview with a Chinese expert/doctor
Is the virus infecting almost everyone, as you would expect a novel flu to?
No — 75 to 80 percent of all clusters are in families. You get the odd ones in hospitals or restaurants or prisons, but the vast majority are in families. And only 5 to 15 percent of your close contacts develop disease. So they try to isolate you from your relatives as quickly as possible, and find everyone you had contact with in 48 hours before that.
Is the virus infecting almost everyone, as you would expect a novel flu to?
No — 75 to 80 percent of all clusters are in families. You get the odd ones in hospitals or restaurants or prisons, but the vast majority are in families. And only 5 to 15 percent of your close contacts develop disease. So they try to isolate you from your relatives as quickly as possible, and find everyone you had contact with in 48 hours before that.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 11:52
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
I think everyone needs to calm down a bit. Coronavirus is not as contagious as a lot of things. Yes more testing is needed, but for now it’s being rationed to people most likely to need it. Which is good because otherwise everyone with a sniffle and anxiety would be demanding a test. The important thing is to stay home if you’re sick, wash hands, and consider skipping big gatherings.
Anonymous
03/06/2020 11:50
Subject: 3 Cases of Coronavirus Confirmed in MD
You do a quick negative pressure check by sharply inhaling and making sure you feel suction. And then you just blow out a match and see if you can smell smoke while nodding, shaking your head.