Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:57
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Thanks for your feedback everyone. Was curious on opinions and glad it stayed mostly civil.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:56
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
Training environment is created by the players and coach. Not the league. Not worth going into.
The league has set certain standards, and US Soccer actively monitors club's practices and provides feedback. So yes, but no.
In theory, but not in practice. That elite training environment is really helping spirit. Was fcv not good until their girls all stopped playing high school and put a fancy patch on their jersey?
I believe the PP would argue that FCV DA is better than FCV ECNL was due to the extended season and the absence of HS ball. There are recent examples of YNT players that play HS ball like Allyson Sentnor but in general i guess it hurts you to play HS soccer. Interesting perspective.
Yes, that is my opinion. I get that some people are very attached to high school soccer, and it's all in what your DD's goals are, but I would say the DA format is better, right down to the rule of no more than 2 games in a row.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:52
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
Training environment is created by the players and coach. Not the league. Not worth going into.
The league has set certain standards, and US Soccer actively monitors club's practices and provides feedback. So yes, but no.
In theory, but not in practice. That elite training environment is really helping spirit. Was fcv not good until their girls all stopped playing high school and put a fancy patch on their jersey?
Its teams got even better when it changed patches. You want to disagree? Go for it. It's my opinion. I think FCV is a stronger club than BRYC, which is proven out by its greater success at a larger number of age groups. I'd love to see the two play, but I doubt it will happen. You don't think 10 month seasons os sustained quality training lead to better development than 5? Stay with the ECNL. It's fine. My world view doesn't rise or fall on your opinion.
Someone asked what DA parents think. I'm a DA parent, and this is what I think.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:50
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
Training environment is created by the players and coach. Not the league. Not worth going into.
The league has set certain standards, and US Soccer actively monitors club's practices and provides feedback. So yes, but no.
In theory, but not in practice. That elite training environment is really helping spirit. Was fcv not good until their girls all stopped playing high school and put a fancy patch on their jersey?
I believe the PP would argue that FCV DA is better than FCV ECNL was due to the extended season and the absence of HS ball. There are recent examples of YNT players that play HS ball like Allyson Sentnor but in general i guess it hurts you to play HS soccer. Interesting perspective.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:49
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
So for example in our area WSVA is slightly better than MYS, Loudoun or VDA? And you would say the club training environment is better too?
MYS is not a bottom ECNL, so no. I consider them a great club. Even great clubs may have a weak age group here and there, but most of their teams are good. I would say slightly better than VDA, which took many hits when it left the DA. The only team that stayed intact was its 04s. Better than Loudoun? I can't tell with that club. They have such a variable success rate. It wouldn't be meaningful or objective to comment.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:45
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
Training environment is created by the players and coach. Not the league. Not worth going into.
The league has set certain standards, and US Soccer actively monitors club's practices and provides feedback. So yes, but no.
In theory, but not in practice. That elite training environment is really helping spirit. Was fcv not good until their girls all stopped playing high school and put a fancy patch on their jersey?
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:43
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
So for example in our area WSVA is slightly better than MYS, Loudoun or VDA? And you would say the club training environment is better too?
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:41
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
I don't think I represent all DA parents. As a DA parent, I posted my personal view that uniquely and singularly represents me.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:40
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
Training environment is created by the players and coach. Not the league. Not worth going into.
The league has set certain standards, and US Soccer actively monitors club's practices and provides feedback. So yes, but no.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:37
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
Training environment is created by the players and coach. Not the league. Not worth going into.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:28
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Yes the fact that their U-17 team are USYS National Champions last year means NADA. Got it? They are not DA so it means nothing!
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:28
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another DA defection to ECNL this month...
The Girls Elite Clubs National League is excited to announce that Rebels Soccer Club will be joining the Girls ECNL beginning in the 2019-2020 ECNL Season.
Rebels SC was founded in 1982 in Chula Vista, CA, and currently has over 120 teams. With dozens of college commits over the past several years, and a USYS National Championship in 2018, Rebels SC has built a strong reputation in the Southern California market by developing high-quality teams and players with a holistic development perspective.
“Being accepted to and joining ECNL is a tremendous moment for our club,” said Rebels SC Executive Director, Ryan Marquez. “Our goal has always been to push our girls teams to compete at the highest level possible while maintaining our possession soccer identity. ECNL is made up of the highest caliber teams and we take pride that our players will now have an opportunity to play against the best teams in the country.”
“We are pleased to welcome Rebels SC to the league as one of the top programs in the region,” said ECNL Commissioner, Jen Winnagle. “Rebels SC will provide presence in a new market in California and will strengthen the Southwest Conference overall. We look forward to working with the club and supporting their growth as they move into the nation’s top league for female youth players.”
The ECNL was created to serve players, coaches, and clubs within a holistic development environment that collaboratively raises standards in all areas of the game. Through its programming, the ECNL and its member clubs seek to lead innovation and improvement in youth club soccer, facilitate the development of the next generation of collegiate stars and national team players, and support the success of US Soccer’s national teams.
How is that a defection? They aren't a DA.
They are a Boys DA club. Nothing to worry about here. These are not the droids you are looking for.
Exactly, and the one boys DA team they had was U12, which won't exist next year.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:27
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Do parents at DA clubs still think the league is above ECNL?
Not trolling but I am curious what people think now based on the ongoing movement of DA clubs to ECNL.
I think they are similar. The better DAs and the better ECNLs have similar talent levels and the worst DAs and the worst ECNLs have a similar talent level. However, when you go region to region and compare in the same area, the best DA clubs are better than the best ECNL clubs overall, and the worst DAs are similar but slightly better than the worst ECNLs overall. This comes from a better training environment and design from the extended season and the absence of high school ball.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:21
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another DA defection to ECNL this month...
The Girls Elite Clubs National League is excited to announce that Rebels Soccer Club will be joining the Girls ECNL beginning in the 2019-2020 ECNL Season.
Rebels SC was founded in 1982 in Chula Vista, CA, and currently has over 120 teams. With dozens of college commits over the past several years, and a USYS National Championship in 2018, Rebels SC has built a strong reputation in the Southern California market by developing high-quality teams and players with a holistic development perspective.
“Being accepted to and joining ECNL is a tremendous moment for our club,” said Rebels SC Executive Director, Ryan Marquez. “Our goal has always been to push our girls teams to compete at the highest level possible while maintaining our possession soccer identity. ECNL is made up of the highest caliber teams and we take pride that our players will now have an opportunity to play against the best teams in the country.”
“We are pleased to welcome Rebels SC to the league as one of the top programs in the region,” said ECNL Commissioner, Jen Winnagle. “Rebels SC will provide presence in a new market in California and will strengthen the Southwest Conference overall. We look forward to working with the club and supporting their growth as they move into the nation’s top league for female youth players.”
The ECNL was created to serve players, coaches, and clubs within a holistic development environment that collaboratively raises standards in all areas of the game. Through its programming, the ECNL and its member clubs seek to lead innovation and improvement in youth club soccer, facilitate the development of the next generation of collegiate stars and national team players, and support the success of US Soccer’s national teams.
How is that a defection? They aren't a DA.
They are a Boys DA club. Nothing to worry about here. These are not the droids you are looking for.
Anonymous
04/24/2019 14:15
Subject: More defections from DA to ECNL
Anonymous wrote:Another DA defection to ECNL this month...
The Girls Elite Clubs National League is excited to announce that Rebels Soccer Club will be joining the Girls ECNL beginning in the 2019-2020 ECNL Season.
Rebels SC was founded in 1982 in Chula Vista, CA, and currently has over 120 teams. With dozens of college commits over the past several years, and a USYS National Championship in 2018, Rebels SC has built a strong reputation in the Southern California market by developing high-quality teams and players with a holistic development perspective.
“Being accepted to and joining ECNL is a tremendous moment for our club,” said Rebels SC Executive Director, Ryan Marquez. “Our goal has always been to push our girls teams to compete at the highest level possible while maintaining our possession soccer identity. ECNL is made up of the highest caliber teams and we take pride that our players will now have an opportunity to play against the best teams in the country.”
“We are pleased to welcome Rebels SC to the league as one of the top programs in the region,” said ECNL Commissioner, Jen Winnagle. “Rebels SC will provide presence in a new market in California and will strengthen the Southwest Conference overall. We look forward to working with the club and supporting their growth as they move into the nation’s top league for female youth players.”
The ECNL was created to serve players, coaches, and clubs within a holistic development environment that collaboratively raises standards in all areas of the game. Through its programming, the ECNL and its member clubs seek to lead innovation and improvement in youth club soccer, facilitate the development of the next generation of collegiate stars and national team players, and support the success of US Soccer’s national teams.
How is that a defection? They aren't a DA.