Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 10:38     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

From what I've seen, the most thoughtful and responsible parents will drive their child to and from these parties, IF they're allowed to go. Why not?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 09:57     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

I have the keys to our cars. My goal is to go apeshit crazy and remind/insist/implore my kids to never ever get in the car with a driver who has had anything to drink. And I repeat this routine every time they go out. Judging from the # of times I've been called for rides and our Uber charges, I think I've been successful so far. But I'm always mindful that "good" kids make poor decisions all the time. (Adults do too.).
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 09:51     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all need an education in criminal law. I'm certain you'll want to afford yourself its protections when your teen, spouse, parent, friend, etc., finds themselves in need.

Thread takeaway:
although DC is loaded with lawyers, DCUMers are clueless when it comes to criminal law and civil liability;
DCUMers do not understand the teenage brain and/or forget ever being a teenager and/or their kids/teens are perfect and free from poor decision-making;
many many pps should be humbled by their very good fortune in life;
people love to spout off and pontificate when they are clearly utterly clueless about the facts and law of a particular situation.

Talk with your teen today. About anything.

Can we perhaps agree that the teenage brain (at least most of them) is not much capable of real adult responsibility? Drinking and driving, in particular, hence party attendance.

Let's be honest here.

If we're being honest, one of my kids has been going to parties with alcohol at least since 10th grade. I know she sometimes drinks and sometimes does not. She has never driven to one of these parties. The kids call a parent, have a sober friend or older sibling drive them, call Uber or often sleep over. I'm not saying we should permit or provide alcohol, I'm saying let's not "agree" that attending a party with alcohol equals drunk driving.
By the way, you shouldn't drink and drive either.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 09:48     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Outrageous how big money can buy innocence.

No one's going to jail.



Why do people keep posting making the assumption that the people involved have "big money" or are "rich"?


Presumably because they live in Potomac. It's a reasonable assumption. There are not many poor people living in Potomac.


The driver was from North Potomac/Gaithersburg. Not that wealthy of an area by DCUM standards.


Sure... they have all just been assigned public defenders.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 09:43     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:

The driver was from North Potomac/Gaithersburg. Not that wealthy of an area by DCUM standards.


By DCUM standards? By DCUM standards, I'm a poor, and my household income puts me in the top 10% in the US.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 09:41     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Can we perhaps agree that the teenage brain (at least most of them) is not much capable of real adult responsibility? Drinking and driving, in particular, hence party attendance.

Let's be honest here.


No. Teenagers (with their teenage brains) used to be capable of a lot of real adult responsibilities.

This is a different question from "Do teenagers often do stupid things?" The answer to this question is obviously yes. But then non-teenagers also often do stupid things. And it is also well-known that people (teenagers or non-teenagers) often do stupid things when they're drunk.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 09:37     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Outrageous how big money can buy innocence.

No one's going to jail.



Why do people keep posting making the assumption that the people involved have "big money" or are "rich"?


Presumably because they live in Potomac. It's a reasonable assumption. There are not many poor people living in Potomac.


The driver was from North Potomac/Gaithersburg. Not that wealthy of an area by DCUM standards.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 09:36     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all need an education in criminal law. I'm certain you'll want to afford yourself its protections when your teen, spouse, parent, friend, etc., finds themselves in need.

Thread takeaway:
although DC is loaded with lawyers, DCUMers are clueless when it comes to criminal law and civil liability;
DCUMers do not understand the teenage brain and/or forget ever being a teenager and/or their kids/teens are perfect and free from poor decision-making;
many many pps should be humbled by their very good fortune in life;
people love to spout off and pontificate when they are clearly utterly clueless about the facts and law of a particular situation.

Talk with your teen today. About anything.

Can we perhaps agree that the teenage brain (at least most of them) is not much capable of real adult responsibility? Drinking and driving, in particular, hence party attendance.

Let's be honest here.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 08:10     Subject: Re:HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:You all need an education in criminal law. I'm certain you'll want to afford yourself its protections when your teen, spouse, parent, friend, etc., finds themselves in need.

Thread takeaway:
although DC is loaded with lawyers, DCUMers are clueless when it comes to criminal law and civil liability;
DCUMers do not understand the teenage brain and/or forget ever being a teenager and/or their kids/teens are perfect and free from poor decision-making;
many many pps should be humbled by their very good fortune in life;
people love to spout off and pontificate when they are clearly utterly clueless about the facts and law of a particular situation.

Talk with your teen today. About anything.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 07:37     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Outrageous how big money can buy innocence.

No one's going to jail.



Why do people keep posting making the assumption that the people involved have "big money" or are "rich"?


Presumably because they live in Potomac. It's a reasonable assumption. There are not many poor people living in Potomac.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 07:29     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Outrageous how big money can buy innocence.

No one's going to jail.



Why do people keep posting making the assumption that the people involved have "big money" or are "rich"?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 07:20     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:

Apparently not since the police have practically been BEGGING for more information.
But, keep your head in the sand to protect yourself if that makes you feel better. You know, with two dead kids and all.


How do you know this?
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 07:11     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the survivors was seen at a beer party last weekend. He learned a lot.


The juvenile? Would not surprise me at all.

Or the 'adult' driver? Why would that surprise anyone? He's a free man with his life to live.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 07:08     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:
Outrageous how big money can buy innocence.

No one's going to jail.



The laws aren't for the wealthy.
Anonymous
Post 07/16/2015 06:23     Subject: HS Party with Alcohol... Death

Anonymous wrote:One of the survivors was seen at a beer party last weekend. He learned a lot.


The juvenile? Would not surprise me at all.