Anonymous wrote:Wootton does not have to sit empty with the neighborhood losing a school.
Move Wootton to Crown.
MCPS should make the current Wootton building (after renovations) a central location for all special needs programs from PEP to 12th grade or more. It is easier to get to Wootton since it is centrally located.
As it is all schools are having issues with SES kids, so having a school for them with dedicated resources will be a good thing for them as well as the NT kids.
And what better location than Wootton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those in the immediate vicinity of Wootton who are expressing concerns about community use:
Why, aside from walkability to events from your property, would using Crown prevent the same kind of use when the activity would be oriented towards Wootton students? Must you always be able to be the ones walking where others must drive?
Why, when the activity was not Wootton-student-oriented, would continuing to use the old Wootton facility to achieve walkability be any different? Do you think the administration of whichever school occupies that as a holding facility would not afford you the same community use that the county requires each school to provide?
Is it not good enough that you have Frost MS, which would continue operation, right next door?
Well there is a collaboration between Wootton and Frost that would absolutely be lost by changing Wootton’s location. But as a parent who lives very close to Wootton-Having an unused school just right in the center of Wootton parkway is my bigger concern. I’m fine having the kids moved temporarily to Crown while Wootton is at least somewhat remediated-But to just have an empty school indefinitely is not ok.
DP. It's intended to be a holding school, not an empty school indefinitely.
Then as it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-if they can fix it to be a holding school-they can fix it for the current Wootton.
+1 That's all Wootton parents are asking for - they are willing to wait their turn for a full renovation until 2035.
Why are the posters on this thread opposed to that? They keep saying that there are other schools worse off than Wootton. Fine, then bus those kids to Crown to fill it up. But I bet their parents don't want them bussed to Crown any more than Wootton parents want their kids bussed to Crown.
No, they want an immediate replacement or renovation. They are not willing to wait.
This is 100% not true. We want the pressing things fixed asap but we absolutely know we can’t have a full renovation now.
Be real. It cannot be fixed and you want priority ven though other schools are worse.
Of course it can be fixed.
Not without great cost and time. Better to tear it down and replace.
Why in the world would you tear Wootton down? 1/2 the building was added in 2001. What are you talking about. The issues are in the old part of the building. It’s only that part that requires replacement or extensive renovation.
Because it’s cheaper and easier to tear it down with plumbing, electrical and mold. If they got a new half in 2001 they should stop complaining as some schools haven’t been renovated ever or 50+ years. You are offered a new school. Take it or get to the back of the line.
That’s a lie to entice Wootton to accept this deal. How is it cheaper if it costs 400 million? Have some common sense!
How much do you think the repairs will cost?
87 million per last year
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OMB/Resources/Files/omb/pdfs/fy26/ciprec/P652115.pdf
This sounds more like the full-scale renovation being discussed, not remediation of the existing, older part of the facility. The $72M figure is "beyond 6 years", which would correspond to the current plan to renovate in 2035.
The 2035 plan is rebuild. Wootton was on CIP for a long time and they have clear numbers which are not that high.
Anonymous wrote:Wootton does not have to sit empty with the neighborhood losing a school.
Move Wootton to Crown.
MCPS should make the current Wootton building (after renovations) a central location for all special needs programs from PEP to 12th grade or more. It is easier to get to Wootton since it is centrally located.
As it is all schools are having issues with SES kids, so having a school for them with dedicated resources will be a good thing for them as well as the NT kids.
And what better location than Wootton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turning Wootton HS as a holding school is just an option for future projects which won't happen probably at the earliest until Damascus HS is fully renovated/rebuilt. It all depends on the mcps enrollment numbers and money fund. If there is not enough mcps enrollment and no money, they may not need a holding school or push the idea of turning Wootton HS as a holding school more later like a decade or two later. It is just my thoughts. We don't need a holding school or permanent Crown HS when mcps is currently underenrolled.
Yeah definitely better to have a huge abandoned building right on Wootton pkwy for the foreseeable future. Also if you have ever talked to anyone in construction-the longer a building sits empty like that, its condition just gets considerably worse.
You must be new around here. The Wootton building won't be abandoned. MCPS will sell the land to a developer for cheap to build new housing that will then feed into Crown. Maybe even a townhouse development that will vastly increase traffic on Wootton Parkway.
Keeping Wootton where it is controls traffic speeds and increases safety along Wootton Parkway.
You will make up anything to keep your school where it is, won't you?
A townhouse development would not add more traffic than your existing school. But if it did, how is that different than development in any other part of county?
What are you talking about? It's a narrow, 2-lane road surrounded by exercise trails and residential neighborhoods. A massive new residential development is guaranteed to increase traffic, just like building a brand new school in an already traffic congested area. Oh wait, MCPS already did that - and you want to make traffic around Crown even worse?
You're so desperate to stick it to Wootton and feel that you're this >< close to achieving your lifelong dream with Option H.
Just admit that you don't live in Wootton and don't care about Wootton families.
You want a new school and are offered one. Stop complaining. Many schools are worse off.
Wootton families don't want a new school 3 miles away. How many times has that been said and countless other threads? You're so desperate to sell Wootton families a new school building they never asked for and don't want. Sounds like you have something significant to gain from a Wootton move. Why don't you tell us all what that is?
Then deal with what you have like the rest of us do. What would you suggest cutting to build you a new school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those in the immediate vicinity of Wootton who are expressing concerns about community use:
Why, aside from walkability to events from your property, would using Crown prevent the same kind of use when the activity would be oriented towards Wootton students? Must you always be able to be the ones walking where others must drive?
Why, when the activity was not Wootton-student-oriented, would continuing to use the old Wootton facility to achieve walkability be any different? Do you think the administration of whichever school occupies that as a holding facility would not afford you the same community use that the county requires each school to provide?
Is it not good enough that you have Frost MS, which would continue operation, right next door?
Well there is a collaboration between Wootton and Frost that would absolutely be lost by changing Wootton’s location. But as a parent who lives very close to Wootton-Having an unused school just right in the center of Wootton parkway is my bigger concern. I’m fine having the kids moved temporarily to Crown while Wootton is at least somewhat remediated-But to just have an empty school indefinitely is not ok.
DP. It's intended to be a holding school, not an empty school indefinitely.
Then as it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-if they can fix it to be a holding school-they can fix it for the current Wootton.
+1 That's all Wootton parents are asking for - they are willing to wait their turn for a full renovation until 2035.
Why are the posters on this thread opposed to that? They keep saying that there are other schools worse off than Wootton. Fine, then bus those kids to Crown to fill it up. But I bet their parents don't want them bussed to Crown any more than Wootton parents want their kids bussed to Crown.
No, they want an immediate replacement or renovation. They are not willing to wait.
This is 100% not true. We want the pressing things fixed asap but we absolutely know we can’t have a full renovation now.
Be real. It cannot be fixed and you want priority ven though other schools are worse.
Of course it can be fixed.
Not without great cost and time. Better to tear it down and replace.
Why in the world would you tear Wootton down? 1/2 the building was added in 2001. What are you talking about. The issues are in the old part of the building. It’s only that part that requires replacement or extensive renovation.
Because it’s cheaper and easier to tear it down with plumbing, electrical and mold. If they got a new half in 2001 they should stop complaining as some schools haven’t been renovated ever or 50+ years. You are offered a new school. Take it or get to the back of the line.
That’s a lie to entice Wootton to accept this deal. How is it cheaper if it costs 400 million? Have some common sense!
How much do you think the repairs will cost?
87 million per last year
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OMB/Resources/Files/omb/pdfs/fy26/ciprec/P652115.pdf
This sounds more like the full-scale renovation being discussed, not remediation of the existing, older part of the facility. The $72M figure is "beyond 6 years", which would correspond to the current plan to renovate in 2035.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turning Wootton HS as a holding school is just an option for future projects which won't happen probably at the earliest until Damascus HS is fully renovated/rebuilt. It all depends on the mcps enrollment numbers and money fund. If there is not enough mcps enrollment and no money, they may not need a holding school or push the idea of turning Wootton HS as a holding school more later like a decade or two later. It is just my thoughts. We don't need a holding school or permanent Crown HS when mcps is currently underenrolled.
Yeah definitely better to have a huge abandoned building right on Wootton pkwy for the foreseeable future. Also if you have ever talked to anyone in construction-the longer a building sits empty like that, its condition just gets considerably worse.
You must be new around here. The Wootton building won't be abandoned. MCPS will sell the land to a developer for cheap to build new housing that will then feed into Crown. Maybe even a townhouse development that will vastly increase traffic on Wootton Parkway.
Keeping Wootton where it is controls traffic speeds and increases safety along Wootton Parkway.
You will make up anything to keep your school where it is, won't you?
A townhouse development would not add more traffic than your existing school. But if it did, how is that different than development in any other part of county?
What are you talking about? It's a narrow, 2-lane road surrounded by exercise trails and residential neighborhoods. A massive new residential development is guaranteed to increase traffic, just like building a brand new school in an already traffic congested area. Oh wait, MCPS already did that - and you want to make traffic around Crown even worse?
You're so desperate to stick it to Wootton and feel that you're this >< close to achieving your lifelong dream with Option H.
Just admit that you don't live in Wootton and don't care about Wootton families.
You want a new school and are offered one. Stop complaining. Many schools are worse off.
Wootton families don't want a new school 3 miles away. How many times has that been said and countless other threads? You're so desperate to sell Wootton families a new school building they never asked for and don't want. Sounds like you have something significant to gain from a Wootton move. Why don't you tell us all what that is?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turning Wootton HS as a holding school is just an option for future projects which won't happen probably at the earliest until Damascus HS is fully renovated/rebuilt. It all depends on the mcps enrollment numbers and money fund. If there is not enough mcps enrollment and no money, they may not need a holding school or push the idea of turning Wootton HS as a holding school more later like a decade or two later. It is just my thoughts. We don't need a holding school or permanent Crown HS when mcps is currently underenrolled.
Yeah definitely better to have a huge abandoned building right on Wootton pkwy for the foreseeable future. Also if you have ever talked to anyone in construction-the longer a building sits empty like that, its condition just gets considerably worse.
You must be new around here. The Wootton building won't be abandoned. MCPS will sell the land to a developer for cheap to build new housing that will then feed into Crown. Maybe even a townhouse development that will vastly increase traffic on Wootton Parkway.
Keeping Wootton where it is controls traffic speeds and increases safety along Wootton Parkway.
You will make up anything to keep your school where it is, won't you?
A townhouse development would not add more traffic than your existing school. But if it did, how is that different than development in any other part of county?
What are you talking about? It's a narrow, 2-lane road surrounded by exercise trails and residential neighborhoods. A massive new residential development is guaranteed to increase traffic, just like building a brand new school in an already traffic congested area. Oh wait, MCPS already did that - and you want to make traffic around Crown even worse?
You're so desperate to stick it to Wootton and feel that you're this >< close to achieving your lifelong dream with Option H.
Just admit that you don't live in Wootton and don't care about Wootton families.
You want a new school and are offered one. Stop complaining. Many schools are worse off.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those in the immediate vicinity of Wootton who are expressing concerns about community use:
Why, aside from walkability to events from your property, would using Crown prevent the same kind of use when the activity would be oriented towards Wootton students? Must you always be able to be the ones walking where others must drive?
Why, when the activity was not Wootton-student-oriented, would continuing to use the old Wootton facility to achieve walkability be any different? Do you think the administration of whichever school occupies that as a holding facility would not afford you the same community use that the county requires each school to provide?
Is it not good enough that you have Frost MS, which would continue operation, right next door?
Well there is a collaboration between Wootton and Frost that would absolutely be lost by changing Wootton’s location. But as a parent who lives very close to Wootton-Having an unused school just right in the center of Wootton parkway is my bigger concern. I’m fine having the kids moved temporarily to Crown while Wootton is at least somewhat remediated-But to just have an empty school indefinitely is not ok.
DP. It's intended to be a holding school, not an empty school indefinitely.
Then as it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-if they can fix it to be a holding school-they can fix it for the current Wootton.
+1 That's all Wootton parents are asking for - they are willing to wait their turn for a full renovation until 2035.
Why are the posters on this thread opposed to that? They keep saying that there are other schools worse off than Wootton. Fine, then bus those kids to Crown to fill it up. But I bet their parents don't want them bussed to Crown any more than Wootton parents want their kids bussed to Crown.
No, they want an immediate replacement or renovation. They are not willing to wait.
This is 100% not true. We want the pressing things fixed asap but we absolutely know we can’t have a full renovation now.
Be real. It cannot be fixed and you want priority ven though other schools are worse.
Of course it can be fixed.
Not without great cost and time. Better to tear it down and replace.
Why in the world would you tear Wootton down? 1/2 the building was added in 2001. What are you talking about. The issues are in the old part of the building. It’s only that part that requires replacement or extensive renovation.
Because it’s cheaper and easier to tear it down with plumbing, electrical and mold. If they got a new half in 2001 they should stop complaining as some schools haven’t been renovated ever or 50+ years. You are offered a new school. Take it or get to the back of the line.
That’s a lie to entice Wootton to accept this deal. How is it cheaper if it costs 400 million? Have some common sense!
How much do you think the repairs will cost?
87 million per last year
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OMB/Resources/Files/omb/pdfs/fy26/ciprec/P652115.pdf
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turning Wootton HS as a holding school is just an option for future projects which won't happen probably at the earliest until Damascus HS is fully renovated/rebuilt. It all depends on the mcps enrollment numbers and money fund. If there is not enough mcps enrollment and no money, they may not need a holding school or push the idea of turning Wootton HS as a holding school more later like a decade or two later. It is just my thoughts. We don't need a holding school or permanent Crown HS when mcps is currently underenrolled.
Yeah definitely better to have a huge abandoned building right on Wootton pkwy for the foreseeable future. Also if you have ever talked to anyone in construction-the longer a building sits empty like that, its condition just gets considerably worse.
You must be new around here. The Wootton building won't be abandoned. MCPS will sell the land to a developer for cheap to build new housing that will then feed into Crown. Maybe even a townhouse development that will vastly increase traffic on Wootton Parkway.
Keeping Wootton where it is controls traffic speeds and increases safety along Wootton Parkway.
You will make up anything to keep your school where it is, won't you?
A townhouse development would not add more traffic than your existing school. But if it did, how is that different than development in any other part of county?
What are you talking about? It's a narrow, 2-lane road surrounded by exercise trails and residential neighborhoods. A massive new residential development is guaranteed to increase traffic, just like building a brand new school in an already traffic congested area. Oh wait, MCPS already did that - and you want to make traffic around Crown even worse?
You're so desperate to stick it to Wootton and feel that you're this >< close to achieving your lifelong dream with Option H.
Just admit that you don't live in Wootton and don't care about Wootton families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turning Wootton HS as a holding school is just an option for future projects which won't happen probably at the earliest until Damascus HS is fully renovated/rebuilt. It all depends on the mcps enrollment numbers and money fund. If there is not enough mcps enrollment and no money, they may not need a holding school or push the idea of turning Wootton HS as a holding school more later like a decade or two later. It is just my thoughts. We don't need a holding school or permanent Crown HS when mcps is currently underenrolled.
Yeah definitely better to have a huge abandoned building right on Wootton pkwy for the foreseeable future. Also if you have ever talked to anyone in construction-the longer a building sits empty like that, its condition just gets considerably worse.
You must be new around here. The Wootton building won't be abandoned. MCPS will sell the land to a developer for cheap to build new housing that will then feed into Crown. Maybe even a townhouse development that will vastly increase traffic on Wootton Parkway.
Keeping Wootton where it is controls traffic speeds and increases safety along Wootton Parkway.
You will make up anything to keep your school where it is, won't you?
A townhouse development would not add more traffic than your existing school. But if it did, how is that different than development in any other part of county?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those in the immediate vicinity of Wootton who are expressing concerns about community use:
Why, aside from walkability to events from your property, would using Crown prevent the same kind of use when the activity would be oriented towards Wootton students? Must you always be able to be the ones walking where others must drive?
Why, when the activity was not Wootton-student-oriented, would continuing to use the old Wootton facility to achieve walkability be any different? Do you think the administration of whichever school occupies that as a holding facility would not afford you the same community use that the county requires each school to provide?
Is it not good enough that you have Frost MS, which would continue operation, right next door?
Well there is a collaboration between Wootton and Frost that would absolutely be lost by changing Wootton’s location. But as a parent who lives very close to Wootton-Having an unused school just right in the center of Wootton parkway is my bigger concern. I’m fine having the kids moved temporarily to Crown while Wootton is at least somewhat remediated-But to just have an empty school indefinitely is not ok.
DP. It's intended to be a holding school, not an empty school indefinitely.
Then as it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-if they can fix it to be a holding school-they can fix it for the current Wootton.
+1 That's all Wootton parents are asking for - they are willing to wait their turn for a full renovation until 2035.
Why are the posters on this thread opposed to that? They keep saying that there are other schools worse off than Wootton. Fine, then bus those kids to Crown to fill it up. But I bet their parents don't want them bussed to Crown any more than Wootton parents want their kids bussed to Crown.
No, they want an immediate replacement or renovation. They are not willing to wait.
This is 100% not true. We want the pressing things fixed asap but we absolutely know we can’t have a full renovation now.
Be real. It cannot be fixed and you want priority ven though other schools are worse.
Of course it can be fixed.
Not without great cost and time. Better to tear it down and replace.
Why in the world would you tear Wootton down? 1/2 the building was added in 2001. What are you talking about. The issues are in the old part of the building. It’s only that part that requires replacement or extensive renovation.
Because it’s cheaper and easier to tear it down with plumbing, electrical and mold. If they got a new half in 2001 they should stop complaining as some schools haven’t been renovated ever or 50+ years. You are offered a new school. Take it or get to the back of the line.
That’s a lie to entice Wootton to accept this deal. How is it cheaper if it costs 400 million? Have some common sense!
How much do you think the repairs will cost?
87 million per last year
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/OMB/Resources/Files/omb/pdfs/fy26/ciprec/P652115.pdf
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turning Wootton HS as a holding school is just an option for future projects which won't happen probably at the earliest until Damascus HS is fully renovated/rebuilt. It all depends on the mcps enrollment numbers and money fund. If there is not enough mcps enrollment and no money, they may not need a holding school or push the idea of turning Wootton HS as a holding school more later like a decade or two later. It is just my thoughts. We don't need a holding school or permanent Crown HS when mcps is currently underenrolled.
Yeah definitely better to have a huge abandoned building right on Wootton pkwy for the foreseeable future. Also if you have ever talked to anyone in construction-the longer a building sits empty like that, its condition just gets considerably worse.
You must be new around here. The Wootton building won't be abandoned. MCPS will sell the land to a developer for cheap to build new housing that will then feed into Crown. Maybe even a townhouse development that will vastly increase traffic on Wootton Parkway.
Keeping Wootton where it is controls traffic speeds and increases safety along Wootton Parkway.
You will make up anything to keep your school where it is, won't you?
A townhouse development would not add more traffic than your existing school. But if it did, how is that different than development in any other part of county?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Turning Wootton HS as a holding school is just an option for future projects which won't happen probably at the earliest until Damascus HS is fully renovated/rebuilt. It all depends on the mcps enrollment numbers and money fund. If there is not enough mcps enrollment and no money, they may not need a holding school or push the idea of turning Wootton HS as a holding school more later like a decade or two later. It is just my thoughts. We don't need a holding school or permanent Crown HS when mcps is currently underenrolled.
Yeah definitely better to have a huge abandoned building right on Wootton pkwy for the foreseeable future. Also if you have ever talked to anyone in construction-the longer a building sits empty like that, its condition just gets considerably worse.
You must be new around here. The Wootton building won't be abandoned. MCPS will sell the land to a developer for cheap to build new housing that will then feed into Crown. Maybe even a townhouse development that will vastly increase traffic on Wootton Parkway.
Keeping Wootton where it is controls traffic speeds and increases safety along Wootton Parkway.
You will make up anything to keep your school where it is, won't you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To those in the immediate vicinity of Wootton who are expressing concerns about community use:
Why, aside from walkability to events from your property, would using Crown prevent the same kind of use when the activity would be oriented towards Wootton students? Must you always be able to be the ones walking where others must drive?
Why, when the activity was not Wootton-student-oriented, would continuing to use the old Wootton facility to achieve walkability be any different? Do you think the administration of whichever school occupies that as a holding facility would not afford you the same community use that the county requires each school to provide?
Is it not good enough that you have Frost MS, which would continue operation, right next door?
Well there is a collaboration between Wootton and Frost that would absolutely be lost by changing Wootton’s location. But as a parent who lives very close to Wootton-Having an unused school just right in the center of Wootton parkway is my bigger concern. I’m fine having the kids moved temporarily to Crown while Wootton is at least somewhat remediated-But to just have an empty school indefinitely is not ok.
DP. It's intended to be a holding school, not an empty school indefinitely.
Then as it’s been stated numerous times on this thread-if they can fix it to be a holding school-they can fix it for the current Wootton.
+1 That's all Wootton parents are asking for - they are willing to wait their turn for a full renovation until 2035.
Why are the posters on this thread opposed to that? They keep saying that there are other schools worse off than Wootton. Fine, then bus those kids to Crown to fill it up. But I bet their parents don't want them bussed to Crown any more than Wootton parents want their kids bussed to Crown.
No, they want an immediate replacement or renovation. They are not willing to wait.
This is 100% not true. We want the pressing things fixed asap but we absolutely know we can’t have a full renovation now.
Be real. It cannot be fixed and you want priority ven though other schools are worse.
Of course it can be fixed.
Not without great cost and time. Better to tear it down and replace.
Why in the world would you tear Wootton down? 1/2 the building was added in 2001. What are you talking about. The issues are in the old part of the building. It’s only that part that requires replacement or extensive renovation.
Because it’s cheaper and easier to tear it down with plumbing, electrical and mold. If they got a new half in 2001 they should stop complaining as some schools haven’t been renovated ever or 50+ years. You are offered a new school. Take it or get to the back of the line.
That’s a lie to entice Wootton to accept this deal. How is it cheaper if it costs 400 million? Have some common sense!
How much do you think the repairs will cost?