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Anonymous wrote:Someone on Next Door had the idea that this building could be a great community and adult learning center. It certainly doesn’t sound like a traditional high school and why rip it apart to turn it into something it’s not?

Centerville and Chantilly are overcrowded. SLHS and Westfield are close to full. The only HS in the area with space is Herndon HS and that does not have enough space to handle the redistribution that would need to happen to relieve the other schools. And the boundary moves to shift kids from Westfield or SLHS, the two HS that are closer to Herndon, and then kids from Chantilly and Centerville to SLHS and Westfield are more disruptive in number then what would be needed to shift schools to the new HS and then backfill. And the new school could help end some of the split feeder problems that Carson has.

The redistricting plan involves putting kids onto busses to Oakton, which is a long commute. Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and I am amazed at how long that drive is the few times we have been at an event at Oakton from our house. And no one wants to be moved into SLHS because it is an IB program, which people are not interested in. Herndon would be closer than Oakton, so I am not sure why they are sending kids to Oakton other than the fact that most people don't want to be moved to a really high FARMs school.

When the kids were sent to Oakton, Oakton had the space and Herndon did not. But, Herndon is not close to that area at all.

They should open the new school with as many from the area as they can. There are two additional buildings that could be easily utilized. (60,000 square feet total additional space. I assume that is far more than the modulars at other schools.)

What you suggest would shift kids all over the place--and then you have the IB issue in addition.

They could move McNair to Herndon and that would fill Herndon but would not solve the overcrowding at Chantilly--or the commute to Westfield from Floris and Coates.

To send the kids currently going to Oakton to Herndon would put them driving through South Lakes and Westfield areas. And, the time would still be prohibitive.

And, if they really need to fill Herndon, there are kids that live just down the street that make the long drive to Langley.

Yes, seats could be filled at Herndon, but that does not solve the overcrowding at Chantilly, Westfield, and Centreville.

Chantilly and Westfield both have new construction, as well.

Anonymous wrote:Someone on Next Door had the idea that this building could be a great community and adult learning center. It certainly doesn’t sound like a traditional high school and why rip it apart to turn it into something it’s not?

Centerville and Chantilly are overcrowded. SLHS and Westfield are close to full. The only HS in the area with space is Herndon HS and that does not have enough space to handle the redistribution that would need to happen to relieve the other schools. And the boundary moves to shift kids from Westfield or SLHS, the two HS that are closer to Herndon, and then kids from Chantilly and Centerville to SLHS and Westfield are more disruptive in number then what would be needed to shift schools to the new HS and then backfill. And the new school could help end some of the split feeder problems that Carson has.

The redistricting plan involves putting kids onto busses to Oakton, which is a long commute. Fox Mill used to go to Oakton and I am amazed at how long that drive is the few times we have been at an event at Oakton from our house. And no one wants to be moved into SLHS because it is an IB program, which people are not interested in. Herndon would be closer than Oakton, so I am not sure why they are sending kids to Oakton other than the fact that most people don't want to be moved to a really high FARMs school.

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Anonymous wrote:Reid is from the Seattle area where she knows all about the successful aviation high school there. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. Some parents here have pointed out that that specialized magnet school is only about 400 students however.

I don't think the proposed aviation school would get more than 400 from FFX county overall student population. My guess is the new HS would have 400 students in the aviation program and 1600 neighborhood students eventually.

An aviation school is nice "gravy."

The need is for a neighborhood school.

I honestly don't understand what an "aviation school" would entail. Aerospace engineers need to know physics and engineering principles, pilots need to understand flight controls and get flight experience, and mechanics need to understand specific parts and tools. There is not a lot of overlap between those fields.

Moreover, from quickly searching mechanics job requirements, they generally don't require even a high school degree and are based on licensure and on-the-job training. It might make sense to have some guidance counselors direct kids to this as an option, but I don't really get the value of a school program specifically for it.

From the work session, I don't think the aviation thing is set as the special program

For them to spend money on a magnet when there are kids in an area that very much needs a high school is quite troubling.

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Anonymous wrote:Reid is from the Seattle area where she knows all about the successful aviation high school there. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. Some parents here have pointed out that that specialized magnet school is only about 400 students however.

I don't think the proposed aviation school would get more than 400 from FFX county overall student population. My guess is the new HS would have 400 students in the aviation program and 1600 neighborhood students eventually.

An aviation school is nice "gravy."

The need is for a neighborhood school.

I honestly don't understand what an "aviation school" would entail. Aerospace engineers need to know physics and engineering principles, pilots need to understand flight controls and get flight experience, and mechanics need to understand specific parts and tools. There is not a lot of overlap between those fields.

Moreover, from quickly searching mechanics job requirements, they generally don't require even a high school degree and are based on licensure and on-the-job training. It might make sense to have some guidance counselors direct kids to this as an option, but I don't really get the value of a school program specifically for it.

What about an English immersion school?

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When the Lewis Leadership academy was showcased to the Board last year, Dixit commented that she thought it was a great program and would love to see such an academy established in her area with a focus on STEM. So that should give you a clue.

An academy and a magnet are two very different things. They could easily put an academy in one of those additional buildings. There are two pretty good sized buildings.

Standard FCPS academies get transportation, and students are not counted in membership. Edison Global Stem is 3 years full time, counted in membership, no pyramid limitations, no transportation. The 2 elementary magnets get transportation. Hunters Woods was about 52% base school, loaded with AAP Waples Mill 69 [total 98], magnet total transfers 251. The 2 Bailey's got less than 20 transfers combined so not really functioning as a magnet.

Dunne/Reid new Bucknell Montessori magnet is limited to the West Potomac pyramid so FCPS has set a precedent on magnets with pyramid limited enrollment/application. If even in these nearby pyramids, you are not eligible to apply: Mount Vernon, Edison, Hayfield, Lewis...


https://bucknelles.fcps.edu/announcements/montesorri-program-bucknell-elementary

The left hand knows not what the right hand is doing in FCPS. We have this boundary study that supposedly was going to come up with more compact attendance areas and reduce transportation costs, and yet they keep coming up with more specialized programs that introduce greater complexity into the system.

And they could not have picked a worse superintendent than Reid to preside over this sprawling leviathan of a school system. She’s all about the bells and whistles and appears to have no talent whatsoever for attending to the basics.

Insofar as KAA is concerned they should be deciding what type of school it is going to be within a matter of weeks and then task their new head of facilities to come back in no more than a month with a detailed plan about how to make that happen within a realistic time frame.

But, if they put a magnet restricted to overcrowded schools, do they still plan to move the western kids out of their current schools? Do they plan to make a magnet out of Chantilly and Westfield kids exclusively? In order to relieve overcrowding they would have to do that. I don't see that happening.

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When the Lewis Leadership academy was showcased to the Board last year, Dixit commented that she thought it was a great program and would love to see such an academy established in her area with a focus on STEM. So that should give you a clue.

An academy and a magnet are two very different things. They could easily put an academy in one of those additional buildings. There are two pretty good sized buildings.

Standard FCPS academies get transportation, and students are not counted in membership. Edison Global Stem is 3 years full time, counted in membership, no pyramid limitations, no transportation. The 2 elementary magnets get transportation. Hunters Woods was about 52% base school, loaded with AAP Waples Mill 69 [total 98], magnet total transfers 251. The 2 Bailey's got less than 20 transfers combined so not really functioning as a magnet.

Dunne/Reid new Bucknell Montessori magnet is limited to the West Potomac pyramid so FCPS has set a precedent on magnets with pyramid limited enrollment/application. If even in these nearby pyramids, you are not eligible to apply: Mount Vernon, Edison, Hayfield, Lewis...


https://bucknelles.fcps.edu/announcements/montesorri-program-bucknell-elementary

Anonymous wrote:Someone on Next Door had the idea that this building could be a great community and adult learning center. It certainly doesn’t sound like a traditional high school and why rip it apart to turn it into something it’s not?

Because Chantilly and Westfield need relief. And, they plan to put more kids on long bus rides away from Chantilly High School.

The Nextdoor people obviously are not familiar at all with the area. There is an adult community center down the street from the KAA facility.

Someone on Next Door had the idea that this building could be a great community and adult learning center. It certainly doesn’t sound like a traditional high school and why rip it apart to turn it into something it’s not?

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Anonymous wrote:Reid is from the Seattle area where she knows all about the successful aviation high school there. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. Some parents here have pointed out that that specialized magnet school is only about 400 students however.

I don't think the proposed aviation school would get more than 400 from FFX county overall student population. My guess is the new HS would have 400 students in the aviation program and 1600 neighborhood students eventually.

An aviation school is nice "gravy."

The need is for a neighborhood school.

Anonymous wrote:Reid is from the Seattle area where she knows all about the successful aviation high school there. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. Some parents here have pointed out that that specialized magnet school is only about 400 students however.

I don't think the proposed aviation school would get more than 400 from FFX county overall student population. My guess is the new HS would have 400 students in the aviation program and 1600 neighborhood students eventually.

Anonymous wrote:Reid is from the Seattle area where she knows all about the successful aviation high school there. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. Some parents here have pointed out that that specialized magnet school is only about 400 students however.

And, she came into that work session expecting that the SB would go with one of her ideas. Nothing presented that day was well developed. Not a traditional school. Not a magnet. Not academies. Nothing. Spaghetti at the wall.

Still trying to figure out the idea of a Magnet for Western schools and how that would solve overcrowding. You know what it would do--assuming it would not be illegal?

It would draw the smartest kids from Chantilly and Westfield and Centreville. Also, Herndon and South Lakes--but they don't need relief from overcrowding.

What could go wrong?

Reid is from the Seattle area where she knows all about the successful aviation high school there. I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. Some parents here have pointed out that that specialized magnet school is only about 400 students however.

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Anonymous wrote:And then there's this comment, which I agree with. Everyone in the county deserves transparency over the purchase of this school:

Hunter Mill District Representative Melanie Meren said FCPS also needs to be transparent and public about its purchasing to ensure it’s seen as a good steward of taxpayer funding.

“I’ve been so excited to celebrate this, but there hasn’t been a public announcement that we even bought this school,” Meren said. “There’s been news stories, but not a public statement on how much it cost … We need to do our responsibility so the Board of Supervisors knows that we know what we’re doing with the money.”

Meren said FCPS needs to come back to the school board with more information on how the school purchase affects school bonds and the schedule for planned renovations.

They also asked for a public announcement about the purchase. Haven't seen it yet.

It's clear, though, that Reid is entranced with the "possibilities." She doesn't seem to enjoy the work of good, solid curriculum and education. She likes the bells and whistles.

I think people tend to keep trying to do the things they’re good at or that at least have gotten them praise in the past. In Reid’s case that was being upbeat and creative at a much smaller, wealthy school district.

What she hasn’t shown is any ability to tackle the challenges in a much larger, and struggling, school district like FCPS. People are primarily looking for someone who can take care of basic things like solid academics and maintaining buildings, and she’s shown no talent for that. KAA excited her to the extent that she could introduce some cutting-edge AI or aeronautics magnet program there. If she’s told to just open it as a regular school, she’ll turn it over to others and lose interest. That may not be a bad thing if the people she turns it over to are competent, but it could also be a mess if they aren’t up to the task.