Anonymous
08/15/2024 18:44
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
I could be wrong, but to me she gives off the vibe of kind of uncool, desperate to be included rich lady. Like someone who was trying to buy her way in to the desired social circles.
In the "cool" crowd, there's often a hierarchy/different groups. The actual "cool" people- who are often hip or interesting or bring something to the table, hence being invited to events for free or for entertainment/hip points. The medium level- i.e. somewhat cool and well liked, but also capable of purchasing their own dinner/ticket to the event (most people probably fall here). And then the final group which is dorky rich people who are willing to splash out any amount of cash to be included- this is a surprisingly large group as well. Candice strikes me as firmly being in the third category.
And I suspect she knew her husband was going broke, but she also knew that the only reason she was ever invited to any Tracy Anderson event was only because she was splashing out thousands per month, not because she was actually accepted in the Tracy/Gwyneth Paltrow/Madonna NYC in group. And she knew if her husband stop paying out, there was NO WAY she would get to enter the cool circle.
In the "cool" crowd, there's often a hierarchy/different groups. The actual "cool" people- who are often hip or interesting or bring something to the table, hence being invited to events for free or for entertainment/hip points. The medium level- i.e. somewhat cool and well liked, but also capable of purchasing their own dinner/ticket to the event (most people probably fall here). And then the final group which is dorky rich people who are willing to splash out any amount of cash to be included- this is a surprisingly large group as well. Candice strikes me as firmly being in the third category.
And I suspect she knew her husband was going broke, but she also knew that the only reason she was ever invited to any Tracy Anderson event was only because she was splashing out thousands per month, not because she was actually accepted in the Tracy/Gwyneth Paltrow/Madonna NYC in group. And she knew if her husband stop paying out, there was NO WAY she would get to enter the cool circle.
Anonymous
08/15/2024 18:28
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:This thread is making me long for the days when understated WASPs were the ideal.
+1
Anonymous
08/15/2024 18:16
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Her looks are fine. Not 10/10 but not ugly either. She’s in great shape and she’s been well-maintained. The problem is her age and her baggage. Debt might be following her too, who knows. I think she’ll eventually land some twice-divorced older man, but I bet his kids won’t like it!
Women supporting women, this is so much fun to see! You have no idea what she is truly inside or if she was actually lied to by her husband, do you? Financial infidelity is a real thing and I have personally experienced it with my partner, it's amazing how blind we can be when we love someone, I know that firsthand. I give her some grace and time for the truth to come out and sadly, my bet is she will have a book/movie deal in the not too distant future as a means of surviving. Seen this story before, she will survive but not without damage in the "trust" department. That's hard to get back, and from my personal experience, all but impossible to escape the emotional damage.
Then you are just as irresponsible as your partner, and she is just as irresponsible as her husband. I'm so tired of adult women acting like children. Take control and know about your family's finances. When you're a grown ass woman, there's no excuse for such deliberate ignorance.
💯 she’s an intelligent woman. I am sure she knew but perhaps did not know the extent of the debt. Neither of them had any idea how to budget. After they sold their place they could have easily stayed in the city in a 3 bed that rents 25k still expensive but about half the cost!
Anonymous
08/15/2024 18:09
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Her looks are fine. Not 10/10 but not ugly either. She’s in great shape and she’s been well-maintained. The problem is her age and her baggage. Debt might be following her too, who knows. I think she’ll eventually land some twice-divorced older man, but I bet his kids won’t like it!
Women supporting women, this is so much fun to see! You have no idea what she is truly inside or if she was actually lied to by her husband, do you? Financial infidelity is a real thing and I have personally experienced it with my partner, it's amazing how blind we can be when we love someone, I know that firsthand. I give her some grace and time for the truth to come out and sadly, my bet is she will have a book/movie deal in the not too distant future as a means of surviving. Seen this story before, she will survive but not without damage in the "trust" department. That's hard to get back, and from my personal experience, all but impossible to escape the emotional damage.
Then you are just as irresponsible as your partner, and she is just as irresponsible as her husband. I'm so tired of adult women acting like children. Take control and know about your family's finances. When you're a grown ass woman, there's no excuse for such deliberate ignorance.
Anonymous
08/15/2024 18:05
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why anyone would “rent” furniture for over 100k a year?
They were not planning on living in that rented apt long term...
And so what happened to their own furniture?
I would imagine they sold their tribeca spot furnished. When we sold our 2nd apartment we had several bids that wanted to purchase our furniture! Which I feel is a little creepy LOL
Anonymous
08/15/2024 17:56
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why anyone would “rent” furniture for over 100k a year?
They were not planning on living in that rented apt long term...
And so what happened to their own furniture?
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:58
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Such an unhealthy lifestyle in terms of emotional stability and true happiness. No life based on goals of money, prestige, and getting ahead of the next person will ever bring lasting joy.
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:55
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let's not be too quick to villify. My family and I used to be very close to the Millers. Mike and Barbara were wonderful generous people, and Mike had some very loyal investors - meaning he came through for them. Mike actually invested in my deals, shared his investors, offered up office space to my young company on favorable terms, and even offered to host my wedding. My basis for what I am writing includes sharing office space with Mike for almost a decade. Mike could be a difficult businessman in a way that appears to be representative of the the NYC real estate world, where few pay their bills or fail to negotatiate. In that uber competitive niche, not every deal works out and not every bill gets paid, but from what I saw with Michael Miller many did, which is probably why he flourished for decades. Mike and Barbara were incredible parents to Brandon and his sister. Brandon was a sweet and personable boy, shy and respectful. At Collegiate and then Brown, he survived academically challenging environments, so he must be smart. The Brandon we knew was not a shark. The last time we saw Brandon was at his wedding, and the last time I saw Mike and Barbara was at our son's bar mitzvah, fifteen years ago.
Real estate investing relies heavily on debt and timing. If the market is floating all boats, leverage through borrowing is wonderful and everyone wins. When the cycle isn't good, then leverage is a death knell. Mike survived a harsh period in his real estate investing and re-established himself, I can see how Brandon might have followed his father's legacy, investing and borrowing into the headwinds of a challenging COVID impacted real estate market where it becomes impossible to refinance properties or sell them for what you paid/invested. From my personal perspective - and that of my family - the Miller's were wonderful people. We are sincerely heartbroken.
How brave you, anonymous. You got sucked into the web of deceit.
Is it any different than Trump’s real estate dealings?
JFC, please get some mental health care. All roads do not lead to Trump, you are a joke.
These people are Kushner friends so it's actually not that much of a stretch.
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:41
Subject: Re:Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:
She’s gorgeous and I need her workout and style secrets
She’s very committed to that face angle.
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:39
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is OG Candice
Yikes, that's quite the glow up. She looks late 50s here and had to be...mid 30s?
Isn’t this the same woman? At the same age-ish? Am I taking crazy pills or are you seeing something I’m not?
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:38
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
She is really thin, that’s probably a big job honestly.
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:37
Subject: Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:This is OG Candice
Yikes, that's quite the glow up. She looks late 50s here and had to be...mid 30s?
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:33
Subject: Re:Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She’s gorgeous and I need her workout and style secrets
You can see her flaws in pics 2 and 3 here. Her face is a little smushed.
How do these women stay so thin? Envious!
I looked up old articles and there are several of her basically saying the same thing over and over: she does 2 hours of Tracy Anderson 6 days a week. gluten free oatmeal and berries and chamomile tea in the am, then just basically lean meat/fish and veggies. I'd look super thin on that too.
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:27
Subject: Re:Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He only had 18 million in debt due to his real estate dealings. Losing projects and money is a normal part of that business. No reason for him to commit suicide.
His business failure has nothing to do with his wife’s spending.
Did her PR machine find this board- page after page of she's gorgeous, he had mental illness, he was a bad business person, but she's perfect!!! Definitely reads as PR.
Someone with a failed business should be able to talk to their spouse about it and say "hey honey, reel back the spending, no more $800/week facials, stop buying new clothes, we don't need all this furniture and this many houses, etc...", but he clearly didn't feel like he could do that, so he killed himself instead to keep her happy. Yeah, definitely nothing to do with her.
Her mother has been posting here.
Anonymous
08/15/2024 13:25
Subject: Re:Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She’s gorgeous and I need her workout and style secrets
You can see her flaws in pics 2 and 3 here. Her face is a little smushed.
How do these women stay so thin? Envious!
It's not that hard when your life is based around Tracey Anderson classes and you have a personal chef.