Anonymous
10/22/2023 14:02
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Has the 911 call been released?
Anonymous
10/22/2023 14:02
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A couple posters recently stated that the daughter and au pair were out of the house. I thought it was definitive that the little girl was in the house?
The police have stated the daughter was in the house. Those poster or posters are wrong.
No… police have said the daughter was in the house when LE arrived. The AP is claiming she AND the daughter were out of the house and came back and found an unusual car at the house. That’s when everything went down. No one is saying the daughter was out of the house when the crime took place. This would line up with BB luring JR to the house….
Where are you seeing this information? It's not in any of the FCPD blog posts or news articles I've read.
https://people.com/au-pair-accused-murdering-man-calling-911-8364433
I'm assuming this info was in the police affidavit filed with the court, several news outlets refer to it and quote various details.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 14:01
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Juliana is sticking with the home invasion, Joe as stabber, Brendan as shooter story, despite ALL of it having been discredited by LE.
https://people.com/au-pair-accused-murdering-man-calling-911-8364433
The Wone case showed that the narrative does not have to be plausible, if everyone sticks to it and you get lucky on forensics, you may skate. Same scenario of an equal number of wounds and perps, vow of silence. At least in VA the forensics were stronger and they pinned the shooting on Juliana. This plus no home invasion undermined her statements and Brendan's.
Joe's family likely provided his electronics to LE very quickly, so they could confirm he was invited and they emphasized no sign of break in. Who let him in, Brendan? Had Christine been attacked by the time Joe arrived after 7?
Juliana would likely not be strong enough to stab Christine to death so she would have to be shooter if the plan was to each kill one for complicity.
Joe was big, fit and marital arts trained so he'd have to be shot, stabbing would be risky.
I agree with the scenario above but think Christine could have been stabbed earlier, even drugged in wine during the birthday celebration the night before, or similar. No neighbors reported hearing a disturbance.
Ok, I see the point re: timing of stabbing, think probably after 7, but still think she may have been drugged. Seems likely that Brendan let Joe in. Do they have keypad entry? If so, he was provided a code.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 13:58
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A couple posters recently stated that the daughter and au pair were out of the house. I thought it was definitive that the little girl was in the house?
The police have stated the daughter was in the house. Those poster or posters are wrong.
No… police have said the daughter was in the house when LE arrived. The AP is claiming she AND the daughter were out of the house and came back and found an unusual car at the house. That’s when everything went down. No one is saying the daughter was out of the house when the crime took place. This would line up with BB luring JR to the house….
Where are you seeing this information? It's not in any of the FCPD blog posts or news articles I've read.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 13:58
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Maybe, although it's completely ludicrous for anyone, especially someone in law enforcement to think they could pin the stabbing on someone else. The forensic evidence would never support that.
The other problem with this theory is that CB was still alive when she went to the hospital, so it's extremely unlikely he stabbed her in the middle of the night or whatever...
Agree but could have been before or after Joe's arrival, after 7 from earlier thread. Then 1st 911 call at 7:49, not much time. But yes, not to be graphic but if stabbed you bleed out, so the fact that she was still alive in the ER is important. I wonder if the 911 call gaps were to ascertain if she was in fact close to death. Had they summoned help, she may have lived.
Obviously Juliana did not do a good enough job re: any gunpowder residue, fingerprints, etc. if she has been charged, contrary to the tales she and BB both told that pegged him as the avenging husband shooter.
I guess Brendan being covered in blood could be excused as rendering aid or something? LE has said they have all weapons, so the knife was recovered. They noted he has an assigned gun for FBI but have not indicated if that was the gun that killed Joe.
If/when Juliana starts saying things that are true, it will be easier to round out the details.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 13:50
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
Juliana is sticking with the home invasion, Joe as stabber, Brendan as shooter story, despite ALL of it having been discredited by LE.
https://people.com/au-pair-accused-murdering-man-calling-911-8364433
The Wone case showed that the narrative does not have to be plausible, if everyone sticks to it and you get lucky on forensics, you may skate. Same scenario of an equal number of wounds and perps, vow of silence. At least in VA the forensics were stronger and they pinned the shooting on Juliana. This plus no home invasion undermined her statements and Brendan's.
Joe's family likely provided his electronics to LE very quickly, so they could confirm he was invited and they emphasized no sign of break in. Who let him in, Brendan? Had Christine been attacked by the time Joe arrived after 7?
Juliana would likely not be strong enough to stab Christine to death so she would have to be shooter if the plan was to each kill one for complicity.
Joe was big, fit and marital arts trained so he'd have to be shot, stabbing would be risky.
I agree with the scenario above but think Christine could have been stabbed earlier, even drugged in wine during the birthday celebration the night before, or similar. No neighbors reported hearing a disturbance.
https://people.com/au-pair-accused-murdering-man-calling-911-8364433
The Wone case showed that the narrative does not have to be plausible, if everyone sticks to it and you get lucky on forensics, you may skate. Same scenario of an equal number of wounds and perps, vow of silence. At least in VA the forensics were stronger and they pinned the shooting on Juliana. This plus no home invasion undermined her statements and Brendan's.
Joe's family likely provided his electronics to LE very quickly, so they could confirm he was invited and they emphasized no sign of break in. Who let him in, Brendan? Had Christine been attacked by the time Joe arrived after 7?
Juliana would likely not be strong enough to stab Christine to death so she would have to be shooter if the plan was to each kill one for complicity.
Joe was big, fit and marital arts trained so he'd have to be shot, stabbing would be risky.
I agree with the scenario above but think Christine could have been stabbed earlier, even drugged in wine during the birthday celebration the night before, or similar. No neighbors reported hearing a disturbance.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 13:28
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:
Maybe, although it's completely ludicrous for anyone, especially someone in law enforcement to think they could pin the stabbing on someone else. The forensic evidence would never support that.
The other problem with this theory is that CB was still alive when she went to the hospital, so it's extremely unlikely he stabbed her in the middle of the night or whatever...
Anonymous
10/22/2023 13:06
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A couple posters recently stated that the daughter and au pair were out of the house. I thought it was definitive that the little girl was in the house?
It sounds like they went out then came back and the coming back was the trigger for the false narrative of "strange car" and home invasion, etc. Going out may have been a way to keep the child away from her mom, if she had already been attacked, or, if Christine was alive, a time with no kiddo in home for Joe's arrival.
LE has said child was in the house and that Brendan Banfield was not home when Joe Ryan was shot by Juliana Peres Magalhaes.
Where is this from?
The LE press conference last week, YT link upthread or should come up in a search.
Link to LE press conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR0xKBVh-08
Anonymous
10/22/2023 12:59
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A couple posters recently stated that the daughter and au pair were out of the house. I thought it was definitive that the little girl was in the house?
It sounds like they went out then came back and the coming back was the trigger for the false narrative of "strange car" and home invasion, etc. Going out may have been a way to keep the child away from her mom, if she had already been attacked, or, if Christine was alive, a time with no kiddo in home for Joe's arrival.
LE has said child was in the house and that Brendan Banfield was not home when Joe Ryan was shot by Juliana Peres Magalhaes.
Where is this from?
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/au-pair-charged-in-killing-at-northern-virginia-home/3448799/
Anonymous
10/22/2023 12:59
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A couple posters recently stated that the daughter and au pair were out of the house. I thought it was definitive that the little girl was in the house?
It sounds like they went out then came back and the coming back was the trigger for the false narrative of "strange car" and home invasion, etc. Going out may have been a way to keep the child away from her mom, if she had already been attacked, or, if Christine was alive, a time with no kiddo in home for Joe's arrival.
LE has said child was in the house and that Brendan Banfield was not home when Joe Ryan was shot by Juliana Peres Magalhaes.
Where is this from?
The LE press conference last week, YT link upthread or should come up in a search.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 12:55
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A couple posters recently stated that the daughter and au pair were out of the house. I thought it was definitive that the little girl was in the house?
The police have stated the daughter was in the house. Those poster or posters are wrong.
No… police have said the daughter was in the house when LE arrived. The AP is claiming she AND the daughter were out of the house and came back and found an unusual car at the house. That’s when everything went down. No one is saying the daughter was out of the house when the crime took place. This would line up with BB luring JR to the house….
Anonymous
10/22/2023 12:51
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:A couple posters recently stated that the daughter and au pair were out of the house. I thought it was definitive that the little girl was in the house?
She was in the house when the police got there….
Anonymous
10/22/2023 12:06
Subject: Fairfax County Double Murder
I just can’t wrap my head around choosing murder over divorce. Whoever did this is dumb and evil. Of course, I honestly can’t imagine hiring someone I know almost nothing about to live in my home and care for my children either. The whole thing is awful. That poor girl.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 12:05
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A couple posters recently stated that the daughter and au pair were out of the house. I thought it was definitive that the little girl was in the house?
It sounds like they went out then came back and the coming back was the trigger for the false narrative of "strange car" and home invasion, etc. Going out may have been a way to keep the child away from her mom, if she had already been attacked, or, if Christine was alive, a time with no kiddo in home for Joe's arrival.
LE has said child was in the house and that Brendan Banfield was not home when Joe Ryan was shot by Juliana Peres Magalhaes.
I think plan was for AP to take child out of the house. BB killed his wife and then left, with plan for JR to come over and help with some supposed issue. Plan was for AP to arrive home, "catch" JR there and shoot him, thinking he was an intruder, then call 911 and report same. She panicked and he had to step in for fear that she'd blow their story, hence claiming responsibility.
He will let AP try to take the fall, she'll flip, he'll be arrested.
Awful story and by all accounts CB was a good human, as was JR, and then there's the child. Just awful.
Anonymous
10/22/2023 11:54
Subject: Re:Fairfax County Double Murder
Maybe, although it's completely ludicrous for anyone, especially someone in law enforcement to think they could pin the stabbing on someone else. The forensic evidence would never support that.