Anonymous
10/12/2023 20:39
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
We should all get CCW's.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 16:33
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just for the life of me do not understand in a civilized society, why anyone needs to carry around a gun. It’s so stupid. I have never and will never and my life is perfect and never in danger. So moronic.
DC is no longer civilized. Enjoy your utopia. Hope nothing disturbs it.
NP... I've lived in DC for 15 years. Your comments are pure cringe. DC isn't Fallujah. I bet you've barely even stepped foot in DC
I love that people who are too scared to go to Texas pull the Fallujah card.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 14:18
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some people have inadequacies they attempt to assuage by repressing their own internal impulsivity, rage and violence and then projecting it onto other people and inanimate objects, all the time demanding to be free agents in every area of their own lives while dedicating every effort to micromanaging the lives of others.
The most anti gun people I know personally range from being suicidal/formerly suicidal to chronically depressed about the direction their life has taken and have a history of making very stupid and illogical life choices, often bad money/career/relationship choices, and overall are truly miserable individuals. It’s definitely projection, they don’t trust themselves with a firearm so they assume most other people can’t be trusted either.
And yet you want all of those people to easily acquire guns.
Nope. I want a strong background check system that is much more robust at stopping people like this from getting guns than the system we currently have.
The issue is these anti gun types who I just described don’t want anyone else to be able to have a gun. Period. They project their own feelings of incompetence with dangerous tools and irrational fears of them on everyone else.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 13:33
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This you OP? Or not yet?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-man-facing-charges-after-shooting-two-men-who-allegedly-robbed-him-police-say-northeast-crime-gun-violence-robbery
No indication in this story that he had a carry permit.
CCW won't matter if you're just taking revenge on someone who robbed you. Notice how his gun didn't help him defend himself.
It’s not entirely clear that it was “his” gun, as opposed to one he took during the fight. At which point it sounds like the attackers all suddenly remembered they had urgent appointments elsewhere.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 12:05
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This you OP? Or not yet?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-man-facing-charges-after-shooting-two-men-who-allegedly-robbed-him-police-say-northeast-crime-gun-violence-robbery
No indication in this story that he had a carry permit.
CCW won't matter if you're just taking revenge on someone who robbed you. Notice how his gun didn't help him defend himself.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 11:34
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good on OP. Democrats can’t stand when it when you exercise your Constitutional rights. They like to take away the rights of law abiding citizens while giving more rights to criminals. On top of that they tax you more for the privilege. If democratic officials don’t enforce the law and do their jobs wrt public safety, what do you expect citizens to do? Allow criminals to keep teeing off on them? Law abiding citizens wouldn’t need CCW if democrats enforced the law, jailed criminals, and put the rights of law abiding citizens over thugs and miscreants in DC.
Says the people who are fine with women losing bodily autonomy.
Where are abortions listed in the constitution?
Just admit it- you can’t stand the fact a citizen demands to exercise their constitutional right.
I’m fine with 2A “rights” - with limitations.
And just because I have a uterus doesn’t mean I don’t have “certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
14th Amendment
“No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/liberty
liberty
The term “liberty” appears in the due process clauses of both the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the Constitution. As used in the Constitution, liberty means freedom from arbitrary and unreasonable restraint upon an individual. Freedom from restraint refers to more than just physical restraint, but also the freedom to act according to one's own will. On numerous occasions the Supreme Court has sought to explain what liberty means and what it encompasses. For example:
The Supreme Court in Meyer v. Nebraska stated “[liberty] denotes not merely freedom from bodily restraint but also the right of the individual to contract, to engage in any of the common occupations of life, to acquire useful knowledge, to marry, establish a home and bring up children, to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience, and generally to enjoy those privileges long recognized at common law as essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.”
In Bolling v. Sharpe, the Supreme Court stated “[liberty] is not confined to mere freedom from bodily restraint. Liberty under law extends to the full range of conduct which the individual is free to pursue, and it cannot be restricted except for a proper governmental objective.”
In Ingraham v. Wright, the Supreme Court stated liberty includes “freedom from bodily restraint and punishment” and “a right to be free from and to obtain judicial relief, for unjustified intrusions on personal security.”
Look how many words you needed to try to argue that abortion should be covered under constitutional rights.
Meanwhile, you know what’s far more explicit and abundantly clear? Our citizens’ rights to own and carry a fire arm, as stated in 2A. Far less words and tortuous arguments needed. Our citizens have the right to own arms whether you like it or not. Every law abiding citizen in DC should be allowed without ridiculously cumbersome roadblocks in the way setup by progressive dem local laws.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 11:31
Subject: Re:I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Literally, the more I think about it the more ironic it is. Liberal law and order policy driving up private gun ownership. Could there be anything more ironic than everyone feeling like they are basically responsible to be their own little sheriff? Not exactly the socialist utopia.
This seems to be true across the board. Liberals seem to have (un)wittingly or perhaps naively adopted libertarian policies and either deny that their policies result in the consequences they don’t like or result to what are effectively libertarian talking points, telling people that their concerns are their own to deal with regarding public antisocial behavior.
The obvious outcomes are that who don’t like living in proximity to antisocial leave and are replaced by people who do or are not replaced at all and the people who stay begin to take actions, like obtaining guns, building fences and walls, that further diminishing the civic space.
It’s a negative feedback loop that they either refuse to admit or blame on people they don’t like for causing. When the cause was themselves and their bad politics.
Yes, the policies enacted are simplistic in nature, lack a big picture view and do not take secondary and tertiary impacts into consideration. They then wonder why their anticipated utopia isn’t achieved.
Instead things get worse because they miss the obvious outcomes tha even a child could see coming.
All of a sudden you have a death spiral. Happening in cities across the country.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 11:01
Subject: Re:I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Literally, the more I think about it the more ironic it is. Liberal law and order policy driving up private gun ownership. Could there be anything more ironic than everyone feeling like they are basically responsible to be their own little sheriff? Not exactly the socialist utopia.
This seems to be true across the board. Liberals seem to have (un)wittingly or perhaps naively adopted libertarian policies and either deny that their policies result in the consequences they don’t like or result to what are effectively libertarian talking points, telling people that their concerns are their own to deal with regarding public antisocial behavior.
The obvious outcomes are that who don’t like living in proximity to antisocial leave and are replaced by people who do or are not replaced at all and the people who stay begin to take actions, like obtaining guns, building fences and walls, that further diminishing the civic space.
It’s a negative feedback loop that they either refuse to admit or blame on people they don’t like for causing. When the cause was themselves and their bad politics.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 10:29
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This you OP? Or not yet?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-man-facing-charges-after-shooting-two-men-who-allegedly-robbed-him-police-say-northeast-crime-gun-violence-robbery
No indication in this story that he had a carry permit.
Yes, most likely a shootout between 3 non-CCW holders. So not really on point.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 09:32
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:This you OP? Or not yet?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-man-facing-charges-after-shooting-two-men-who-allegedly-robbed-him-police-say-northeast-crime-gun-violence-robbery
No indication in this story that he had a carry permit.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 09:29
Subject: Re:I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Literally, the more I think about it the more ironic it is. Liberal law and order policy driving up private gun ownership. Could there be anything more ironic than everyone feeling like they are basically responsible to be their own little sheriff? Not exactly the socialist utopia.
Yes, but if a CCW were ever to justifiably use their weapon in self defense against an armed criminal that liberal law enforcement machine would have them up on charges and be asking for 7 figure bail. To be followed by civil suit for putting the family bread winner/stealer out of commission.
So make sure you have CCW insurance.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 08:54
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some people have inadequacies they attempt to assuage by repressing their own internal impulsivity, rage and violence and then projecting it onto other people and inanimate objects, all the time demanding to be free agents in every area of their own lives while dedicating every effort to micromanaging the lives of others.
The most anti gun people I know personally range from being suicidal/formerly suicidal to chronically depressed about the direction their life has taken and have a history of making very stupid and illogical life choices, often bad money/career/relationship choices, and overall are truly miserable individuals. It’s definitely projection, they don’t trust themselves with a firearm so they assume most other people can’t be trusted either.
Our ridiculously high and unacceptable rate of firearm deaths and injuries is what tells me a huge number of firearm owners can't be trusted.
As for the rest, I think you have that exactly backwards. A lot of suicides are by firearm, a high percentage of gun owners live in low income areas, barely finished high school if at all, and have not had much success in life. As for myself, I do not suffer from depression, and have had a very successful career and life, happily married for over 20 years with a successful child about to finish college. Seems to me that you are the one engaging in projection.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 07:55
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good on OP. Democrats can’t stand when it when you exercise your Constitutional rights. They like to take away the rights of law abiding citizens while giving more rights to criminals. On top of that they tax you more for the privilege. If democratic officials don’t enforce the law and do their jobs wrt public safety, what do you expect citizens to do? Allow criminals to keep teeing off on them? Law abiding citizens wouldn’t need CCW if democrats enforced the law, jailed criminals, and put the rights of law abiding citizens over thugs and miscreants in DC.
Says the people who are fine with women losing bodily autonomy.
Who says anything about this? I am pro-choice but also for Second Amendment and right to defend yourself. I am sure I am no unicorn
You always vote D to protect women’s reproductive rights? No? Then you are fine with women losing bodily autonomy.
Another single issue voter, I see
Anonymous
10/12/2023 07:51
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just don’t get all the animosity toward OP. She is making an informed decision, exercising her constitutional right and complying with the policies and procedures set forth by the DC government to obtain a concealed carry permit.
Unless you assault her she is no threat to anyone. CCW holders are as a group are rule followers and law abiding citizens.
As daily life in DC, other large US cities and around the world demonstrate, you don’t need a gun to protect yourself, until that moment when you actually do. But then it is too late to go through the 30-45 day process to get a permit, pop by the gun store, hit the range for practice, etc.
OP is now prepared to act to save herself if necessary, i for one applaud her for her decision. Others are free to criticize.
We anxiously await her stories of putting it to use.
We have a registered handgun. I won't lie-when I could hear the windows breaking and sirens in 2019, it made me feel a lot safer. We don't really go out enough in places where violence would pop up (not denying that it is almost continual these days) but we are pretty much homebodies - to need a concealed weapon. If we did , I would totally see the case for it. I believe you have to make a case to the city you are under threat? Isn't that pretty much everyone in DC these days, except for the criminals? Thanks ultra liberals! You just made us all want guns.
No need to make a case of threat any longer. CCW permits in DC are shall issue. There must be a reason, felony conviction, etc., to deny you. If you have a gun permit in DC you can get a concealed carry permit if you follow the application process.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 07:37
Subject: I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed