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Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.

Where was that posted?

Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review/community-meetings-phase-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

It’s extra hilarious that they didn’t even hold this meeting at Halley, where Hagel Circle attends now. Do those families even have any idea that they’re slated to move?

Come on.

You jnow those poor Hagel Circle kids should never have been bussed 4 elementary schools away, crossing I95, all the way to Halley.

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Anonymous wrote:Meren’s end of the year email said that she was recommending moving FMES to Hughes and staying at SLHS. Never mind that moving anyone to Hughes wasn’t in any of the plans.

I suspect that the school board's final map is going to be very different than the maps the parents have been commenting on from BRAC.

We have no idea what the map looks like now. They never updated it after Version 4 even though they showed a new version to parents at that Lewis meeting. Reid refuses to release any new maps until she gives her version to the school board. It's anyone's guess what's been proposed now.

Agreed. The fact that a School Board member sent out an update that included recommendations that we have never seen is problematic.

They should dial this back to 1) Address the Western HS boundaries 2) Dealt with any school that is overcrowded.

Stop there. They could have reasonable solutions that some people would not love, because no one wants to move, but would make sense because they address an identified need.

OK, but in that case they need to have a clear metric for overcrowding.

Changing boundaries based on being over 105% overcrowding in the fall of 2024 doesn't necessarily make sense. Some enrollments have come down this year.

We were specifically told by a School Board member in the past that FCPS only cared about schools over 110%.

Don't use 2025-26 enrollment. The year is almost over and class of 2026 is abnormally huge.

At many of the schools, class of 2026 is 100 to 150 students larger than the 8th grade classes replacing them. I think Chantilly class of 2026 is over 200 students larger than the 8th grade class replacing them.

Use the current 8th through 11th grade numbers to determin overcrowding.

It will paint a very different picture than the 2024 enrollment projections that FCPS is using to justify rezoining.

Looking forward is smarter than looking backwards but a lot of high schools pick up kids from K-8 private and parochial schools so a comparison of 11th and 8th grade enrollments could be misleading.

We’ve listened to people at one crowded high school say year after year that the enrollment will come down “next year” and it stays overcrowded. They just don’t want to move.

Now re read your last sentence.

Parents don’t want their kids moved. Almost universal!

Parents want their kids' school to not be overcrowded. They just want other kids moved to get it. If it looks like it might be them, than all of the sudden it's not so bad to be overcrowded, or the problem will "fix itself" in a couple years (although it never has).
Just be honest. People want to be zoned to whatever school is perceived to be "better." They are incapable of detaching their personal interest from the problem. That's why we get some truly exaggerated "mental health" and "community" reasoning that they fully commit to posted here which just sounds silly from an objective point of view to those unaffected.

Gee. Oakton is perceived to be "better" than Chantilly--yet Chantilly parents were not pleased when part of a neighborhood was picked by THRU to be moved to Oakton. (This was before the Western purchase)
And, in the 2008 boundary study, neighborhoods fought to stay at Chantilly over Oakton.

Chantilly is a school that reflects the communities around it. No one lives more than a ten minute drive with traffic. Proximity is key if you want your child to participate in activities. Not everyone is able to spend an hour every afternoon transporting their child.

The Oakton pyramid is a mess, while it is affluent, it still has its issues.

There is a thread about how it lacks its own middle school.

This is one of the things that the boundary study should have fixed.

Instead, fcps focused on the wrong things, made it too broad, and wasted so much money.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

True. But, others do. Just look at RIO. They are almost at Langley level in their elitism.

What's Rio?

Rooted in Oakton, a group trying to keep Crossfield ES at Oakton and not Western. They have a website and everything.

Good for them

+1. I don’t have a dog in that fight, but I applaud anyone fighting to keep their kids in their chosen school. Families by and large don’t want their kids moved.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

True. But, others do. Just look at RIO. They are almost at Langley level in their elitism.

What's Rio?

Rooted in Oakton, a group trying to keep Crossfield ES at Oakton and not Western. They have a website and everything.

Good for them

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

True. But, others do. Just look at RIO. They are almost at Langley level in their elitism.

What's Rio?

Rooted in Oakton, a group trying to keep Crossfield ES at Oakton and not Western. They have a website and everything.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

True. But, others do. Just look at RIO. They are almost at Langley level in their elitism.

What's Rio?

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Anonymous wrote:Meren’s end of the year email said that she was recommending moving FMES to Hughes and staying at SLHS. Never mind that moving anyone to Hughes wasn’t in any of the plans.

I suspect that the school board's final map is going to be very different than the maps the parents have been commenting on from BRAC.

We have no idea what the map looks like now. They never updated it after Version 4 even though they showed a new version to parents at that Lewis meeting. Reid refuses to release any new maps until she gives her version to the school board. It's anyone's guess what's been proposed now.

Agreed. The fact that a School Board member sent out an update that included recommendations that we have never seen is problematic.

They should dial this back to 1) Address the Western HS boundaries 2) Dealt with any school that is overcrowded.

Stop there. They could have reasonable solutions that some people would not love, because no one wants to move, but would make sense because they address an identified need.

OK, but in that case they need to have a clear metric for overcrowding.

Changing boundaries based on being over 105% overcrowding in the fall of 2024 doesn't necessarily make sense. Some enrollments have come down this year.

We were specifically told by a School Board member in the past that FCPS only cared about schools over 110%.

Don't use 2025-26 enrollment. The year is almost over and class of 2026 is abnormally huge.

At many of the schools, class of 2026 is 100 to 150 students larger than the 8th grade classes replacing them. I think Chantilly class of 2026 is over 200 students larger than the 8th grade class replacing them.

Use the current 8th through 11th grade numbers to determin overcrowding.

It will paint a very different picture than the 2024 enrollment projections that FCPS is using to justify rezoining.

Looking forward is smarter than looking backwards but a lot of high schools pick up kids from K-8 private and parochial schools so a comparison of 11th and 8th grade enrollments could be misleading.

We’ve listened to people at one crowded high school say year after year that the enrollment will come down “next year” and it stays overcrowded. They just don’t want to move.

Now re read your last sentence.

Parents don’t want their kids moved. Almost universal!

Parents want their kids' school to not be overcrowded. They just want other kids moved to get it. If it looks like it might be them, than all of the sudden it's not so bad to be overcrowded, or the problem will "fix itself" in a couple years (although it never has).
Just be honest. People want to be zoned to whatever school is perceived to be "better." They are incapable of detaching their personal interest from the problem. That's why we get some truly exaggerated "mental health" and "community" reasoning that they fully commit to posted here which just sounds silly from an objective point of view to those unaffected.

Gee. Oakton is perceived to be "better" than Chantilly--yet Chantilly parents were not pleased when part of a neighborhood was picked by THRU to be moved to Oakton. (This was before the Western purchase)
And, in the 2008 boundary study, neighborhoods fought to stay at Chantilly over Oakton.

Chantilly is a school that reflects the communities around it. No one lives more than a ten minute drive with traffic. Proximity is key if you want your child to participate in activities. Not everyone is able to spend an hour every afternoon transporting their child.

The Oakton pyramid is a mess, while it is affluent, it still has its issues.

There is a thread about how it lacks its own middle school.

This is one of the things that the boundary study should have fixed.

Instead, fcps focused on the wrong things, made it too broad, and wasted so much money.

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Anonymous wrote:Meren’s end of the year email said that she was recommending moving FMES to Hughes and staying at SLHS. Never mind that moving anyone to Hughes wasn’t in any of the plans.

I suspect that the school board's final map is going to be very different than the maps the parents have been commenting on from BRAC.

We have no idea what the map looks like now. They never updated it after Version 4 even though they showed a new version to parents at that Lewis meeting. Reid refuses to release any new maps until she gives her version to the school board. It's anyone's guess what's been proposed now.

Agreed. The fact that a School Board member sent out an update that included recommendations that we have never seen is problematic.

They should dial this back to 1) Address the Western HS boundaries 2) Dealt with any school that is overcrowded.

Stop there. They could have reasonable solutions that some people would not love, because no one wants to move, but would make sense because they address an identified need.

OK, but in that case they need to have a clear metric for overcrowding.

Changing boundaries based on being over 105% overcrowding in the fall of 2024 doesn't necessarily make sense. Some enrollments have come down this year.

We were specifically told by a School Board member in the past that FCPS only cared about schools over 110%.

Don't use 2025-26 enrollment. The year is almost over and class of 2026 is abnormally huge.

At many of the schools, class of 2026 is 100 to 150 students larger than the 8th grade classes replacing them. I think Chantilly class of 2026 is over 200 students larger than the 8th grade class replacing them.

Use the current 8th through 11th grade numbers to determin overcrowding.

It will paint a very different picture than the 2024 enrollment projections that FCPS is using to justify rezoining.

Looking forward is smarter than looking backwards but a lot of high schools pick up kids from K-8 private and parochial schools so a comparison of 11th and 8th grade enrollments could be misleading.

We’ve listened to people at one crowded high school say year after year that the enrollment will come down “next year” and it stays overcrowded. They just don’t want to move.

Now re read your last sentence.

Parents don’t want their kids moved. Almost universal!

Parents want their kids' school to not be overcrowded. They just want other kids moved to get it. If it looks like it might be them, than all of the sudden it's not so bad to be overcrowded, or the problem will "fix itself" in a couple years (although it never has).
Just be honest. People want to be zoned to whatever school is perceived to be "better." They are incapable of detaching their personal interest from the problem. That's why we get some truly exaggerated "mental health" and "community" reasoning that they fully commit to posted here which just sounds silly from an objective point of view to those unaffected.

Gee. Oakton is perceived to be "better" than Chantilly--yet Chantilly parents were not pleased when part of a neighborhood was picked by THRU to be moved to Oakton. (This was before the Western purchase)
And, in the 2008 boundary study, neighborhoods fought to stay at Chantilly over Oakton.

Chantilly is a school that reflects the communities around it. No one lives more than a ten minute drive with traffic. Proximity is key if you want your child to participate in activities. Not everyone is able to spend an hour every afternoon transporting their child.

The Oakton pyramid is a mess, while it is affluent, it still has its issues.

There is a thread about how it lacks its own middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

True. But, others do. Just look at RIO. They are almost at Langley level in their elitism.

Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:Meren’s end of the year email said that she was recommending moving FMES to Hughes and staying at SLHS. Never mind that moving anyone to Hughes wasn’t in any of the plans.

I suspect that the school board's final map is going to be very different than the maps the parents have been commenting on from BRAC.

We have no idea what the map looks like now. They never updated it after Version 4 even though they showed a new version to parents at that Lewis meeting. Reid refuses to release any new maps until she gives her version to the school board. It's anyone's guess what's been proposed now.

Agreed. The fact that a School Board member sent out an update that included recommendations that we have never seen is problematic.

They should dial this back to 1) Address the Western HS boundaries 2) Dealt with any school that is overcrowded.

Stop there. They could have reasonable solutions that some people would not love, because no one wants to move, but would make sense because they address an identified need.

OK, but in that case they need to have a clear metric for overcrowding.

Changing boundaries based on being over 105% overcrowding in the fall of 2024 doesn't necessarily make sense. Some enrollments have come down this year.

We were specifically told by a School Board member in the past that FCPS only cared about schools over 110%.

Don't use 2025-26 enrollment. The year is almost over and class of 2026 is abnormally huge.

At many of the schools, class of 2026 is 100 to 150 students larger than the 8th grade classes replacing them. I think Chantilly class of 2026 is over 200 students larger than the 8th grade class replacing them.

Use the current 8th through 11th grade numbers to determin overcrowding.

It will paint a very different picture than the 2024 enrollment projections that FCPS is using to justify rezoining.

Looking forward is smarter than looking backwards but a lot of high schools pick up kids from K-8 private and parochial schools so a comparison of 11th and 8th grade enrollments could be misleading.

We’ve listened to people at one crowded high school say year after year that the enrollment will come down “next year” and it stays overcrowded. They just don’t want to move.

Now re read your last sentence.

Parents don’t want their kids moved. Almost universal!

Parents want their kids' school to not be overcrowded. They just want other kids moved to get it. If it looks like it might be them, than all of the sudden it's not so bad to be overcrowded, or the problem will "fix itself" in a couple years (although it never has).
Just be honest. People want to be zoned to whatever school is perceived to be "better." They are incapable of detaching their personal interest from the problem. That's why we get some truly exaggerated "mental health" and "community" reasoning that they fully commit to posted here which just sounds silly from an objective point of view to those unaffected.

Gee. Oakton is perceived to be "better" than Chantilly--yet Chantilly parents were not pleased when part of a neighborhood was picked by THRU to be moved to Oakton. (This was before the Western purchase)
And, in the 2008 boundary study, neighborhoods fought to stay at Chantilly over Oakton.

Chantilly is a school that reflects the communities around it. No one lives more than a ten minute drive with traffic. Proximity is key if you want your child to participate in activities. Not everyone is able to spend an hour every afternoon transporting their child.