Anonymous
10/28/2025 12:11
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The SY is a great chess move by ECNL. MLSN has to react to move to SY too otherwise it would become irrelevant to youth soccer p2p within 2 years. For each region, it only takes a few big clubs to switch to totally destroy a league.
I mean MLS can just say that they’ll only scout from MSLNext as well as get rid of any partnerships with ECNL clubs, and essentially delineate between a pro and college paths.
This is absurd. There is no way MLS Clubs are limiting where they scout from.
Anonymous
10/28/2025 12:08
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The SY is a great chess move by ECNL. MLSN has to react to move to SY too otherwise it would become irrelevant to youth soccer p2p within 2 years. For each region, it only takes a few big clubs to switch to totally destroy a league.
I mean MLS can just say that they’ll only scout from MSLNext as well as get rid of any partnerships with ECNL clubs, and essentially delineate between a pro and college paths.
MLS players go pro and play in college.
Its not pro only.
If you were a college coach would you want players that played against potential pro players or other players their age only?
Anonymous
10/28/2025 12:06
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The SY is a great chess move by ECNL. MLSN has to react to move to SY too otherwise it would become irrelevant to youth soccer p2p within 2 years. For each region, it only takes a few big clubs to switch to totally destroy a league.
I mean MLS can just say that they’ll only scout from MSLNext as well as get rid of any partnerships with ECNL clubs, and essentially delineate between a pro and college paths.
You have no idea the places mls academies are scouting from. They don’t care about leagues, they would scout a rec game if there was a freak athlete there.
Anonymous
10/28/2025 12:05
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:The SY is a great chess move by ECNL. MLSN has to react to move to SY too otherwise it would become irrelevant to youth soccer p2p within 2 years. For each region, it only takes a few big clubs to switch to totally destroy a league.
What planet are you from? If you're a youth and you want to play soccer professionally in America you'll need to go through MLS.
Switching from BY to SY is more of a distraction than anything else. ECNL gathered up all the littles leagues and said theres more of us than there are of you. The littles leagues want SY because its easier for them to group by grade.
Anonymous
10/28/2025 12:04
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:The SY is a great chess move by ECNL. MLSN has to react to move to SY too otherwise it would become irrelevant to youth soccer p2p within 2 years. For each region, it only takes a few big clubs to switch to totally destroy a league.
I mean MLS can just say that they’ll only scout from MSLNext as well as get rid of any partnerships with ECNL clubs, and essentially delineate between a pro and college paths.
Anonymous
10/28/2025 11:59
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
The SY is a great chess move by ECNL. MLSN has to react to move to SY too otherwise it would become irrelevant to youth soccer p2p within 2 years. For each region, it only takes a few big clubs to switch to totally destroy a league.
Anonymous
10/28/2025 11:54
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLS Next age brackets are still undecided.
I work for a club from Madison/Milwaukee area, we’ve got MLS Next AD and HG teams at North and Mid America divisions.
We talked on last Thursday with our regional MLS Next representative. He confirmed to us they are still debating, pros and cons.
Clubs are pushing to align AD and HG age cutoffs, otherwise it’d be very difficult for us to organize the rosters and feeders from younger teams, below U13s.
Again: it’s still undecided.
Did they give any indication of when the decision would be made?
No indication at all.
Regional representatives are gathering input from p2p clubs like us.
I believe there is a conflict of interests between MLS academies (they prefer BY) and we MLS Next p2p clubs (we push for SY).
Do you think it’s likely MLS Academies stay BY and MLS P2P clubs change to SY?
Yes
But to add a little more.
There are a few non MLS Homegrown clubs that hold their own against them. It will be interesting to aee how theae clubs end up BY or SY. If they stay BY its essentially saying that Homegrown is its own league. But Even with BY and SY the Homegrown teams would just play up 6 months against MLS P2P clubs so its not that big of a deal.
So this isn’t the guy who says he works for an mlsn club responding? You’ve got your terminology mixed up. There are mls elite academies, mls homegrown/mlsn1, and mls academy division/mlsn2.
Anonymous
10/28/2025 11:47
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLS Next age brackets are still undecided.
I work for a club from Madison/Milwaukee area, we’ve got MLS Next AD and HG teams at North and Mid America divisions.
We talked on last Thursday with our regional MLS Next representative. He confirmed to us they are still debating, pros and cons.
Clubs are pushing to align AD and HG age cutoffs, otherwise it’d be very difficult for us to organize the rosters and feeders from younger teams, below U13s.
Again: it’s still undecided.
Did they give any indication of when the decision would be made?
No indication at all.
Regional representatives are gathering input from p2p clubs like us.
I believe there is a conflict of interests between MLS academies (they prefer BY) and we MLS Next p2p clubs (we push for SY).
Do you think it’s likely MLS Academies stay BY and MLS P2P clubs change to SY?
Yes
But to add a little more.
There are a few non MLS Homegrown clubs that hold their own against them. It will be interesting to aee how theae clubs end up BY or SY. If they stay BY its essentially saying that Homegrown is its own league. But Even with BY and SY the Homegrown teams would just play up 6 months against MLS P2P clubs so its not that big of a deal.
Anonymous
10/28/2025 11:42
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLS Next age brackets are still undecided.
I work for a club from Madison/Milwaukee area, we’ve got MLS Next AD and HG teams at North and Mid America divisions.
We talked on last Thursday with our regional MLS Next representative. He confirmed to us they are still debating, pros and cons.
Clubs are pushing to align AD and HG age cutoffs, otherwise it’d be very difficult for us to organize the rosters and feeders from younger teams, below U13s.
Again: it’s still undecided.
Did they give any indication of when the decision would be made?
No indication at all.
Regional representatives are gathering input from p2p clubs like us.
I believe there is a conflict of interests between MLS academies (they prefer BY) and we MLS Next p2p clubs (we push for SY).
Do you think it’s likely MLS Academies stay BY and MLS P2P clubs change to SY?
Yes
Anonymous
10/28/2025 11:38
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLS Next age brackets are still undecided.
I work for a club from Madison/Milwaukee area, we’ve got MLS Next AD and HG teams at North and Mid America divisions.
We talked on last Thursday with our regional MLS Next representative. He confirmed to us they are still debating, pros and cons.
Clubs are pushing to align AD and HG age cutoffs, otherwise it’d be very difficult for us to organize the rosters and feeders from younger teams, below U13s.
Again: it’s still undecided.
Did they give any indication of when the decision would be made?
No indication at all.
Regional representatives are gathering input from p2p clubs like us.
I believe there is a conflict of interests between MLS academies (they prefer BY) and we MLS Next p2p clubs (we push for SY).
Do you think it’s likely MLS Academies stay BY and MLS P2P clubs change to SY?
Anonymous
10/28/2025 02:40
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"Good question! Also undecided on our side, however our CEO gave us hint about maybe moving to ECNL/ECN-R."
Ours has mentioned the same.
Yea all kinds of clubs are telegraphing that they plan to move their top teams fron from the A tier to the B tier.
ECN-R = the C tier
D tier if you split out MLS Homegrown and Academy.
Agree 💯
Anonymous
10/28/2025 02:33
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"Good question! Also undecided on our side, however our CEO gave us hint about maybe moving to ECNL/ECN-R."
Ours has mentioned the same.
Yea all kinds of clubs are telegraphing that they plan to move their top teams fron from the A tier to the B tier.
Does Mr Ugh ever realize the absurdity? He is talking smack about different levels of youth soccer. Meanwhile, the difference between rec and all of US club (including MLSN academies) is a pimple compared to the massive leap between MLSN and MLS professional soccer . Then another big jump to get from MLS to any random 7th or 8th tier leagues in Europe or S. America. And so on…
What are you talking about?
Bartender, I think its time to cut this guy off. He's full of vinegar tonight but he'll be feeling it tomorrow.
It's ok tough guy, we all know that you're ready to go. But maybe another time when you start making sense again.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 23:52
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"Good question! Also undecided on our side, however our CEO gave us hint about maybe moving to ECNL/ECN-R."
Ours has mentioned the same.
Yea all kinds of clubs are telegraphing that they plan to move their top teams fron from the A tier to the B tier.
Does Mr Ugh ever realize the absurdity? He is talking smack about different levels of youth soccer. Meanwhile, the difference between rec and all of US club (including MLSN academies) is a pimple compared to the massive leap between MLSN and MLS professional soccer . Then another big jump to get from MLS to any random 7th or 8th tier leagues in Europe or S. America. And so on…
Anonymous
10/27/2025 23:27
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"Good question! Also undecided on our side, however our CEO gave us hint about maybe moving to ECNL/ECN-R."
Ours has mentioned the same.
Yea all kinds of clubs are telegraphing that they plan to move their top teams fron from the A tier to the B tier.
ECN-R = the C tier
D tier if you split out MLS Homegrown and Academy.
Anonymous
10/27/2025 23:22
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
"Good question! Also undecided on our side, however our CEO gave us hint about maybe moving to ECNL/ECN-R."
Ours has mentioned the same.
Yea all kinds of clubs are telegraphing that they plan to move their top teams fron from the A tier to the B tier.
ECN-R = the C tier