Anonymous
09/08/2023 19:00
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
Russian troll spin machine in overdrive
+1
Now that we know Musk has been using Starlink for Russia’s benefit, we know why Ukraine hasn’t won already.
Ducking traitor.
LOL if you want to look too closely into a horse's mouth, you'd have to buy it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/
They were paid for, you goon. I bet you think Elon’s truck is masterful, too.
Terminals or service?
DP. BOTH were paid for. US DoD paid for a bunch of terminals and service for Ukraine, and many volunteer groups also purchased terminals and service for Ukraine.
And weirdo, dishonest Elon also ran around pretending he gave them for free and that Ukraine was being a bunch of ungrateful a-holes when he cut off service to them, also claimed he wasn't making any money off of the terminals in Ukraine, all of which was completely false.
+1
I truly do not see how this doesn’t run afoul of several government regulations and laws.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 18:34
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
Russian troll spin machine in overdrive
+1
Now that we know Musk has been using Starlink for Russia’s benefit, we know why Ukraine hasn’t won already.
Ducking traitor.
LOL if you want to look too closely into a horse's mouth, you'd have to buy it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/
They were paid for, you goon. I bet you think Elon’s truck is masterful, too.
Terminals or service?
DP. BOTH were paid for. US DoD paid for a bunch of terminals and service for Ukraine, and many volunteer groups also purchased terminals and service for Ukraine.
And weirdo, dishonest Elon also ran around pretending he gave them for free and that Ukraine was being a bunch of ungrateful a-holes when he cut off service to them, also claimed he wasn't making any money off of the terminals in Ukraine, all of which was completely false.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 18:30
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Musk and starlink are way better than anything the US would have ever come up with.
First off; Russia tried repeatedly to jam them; succeeded for a few hours and they (spaceX ) sent up a patch. It would have taken DISA months to approve any updates by usaf or whomever owned the asset. Think of this - it is spaceX versus Russia. A private company is smarter than the entire intelligence apparatus of a decent sized country. Mind blowing.
Second - they are so cheap Russia could not shoot them down (or the US for that matter) at 100x the cost of the little satellites - cause spaceX could just launch more that would bankrupt anyone trying to shoot them all down.
The only control the US has over musk is the airspace to launch his rockets from. And odds are he is probably buying islands so the US could not even stop him then.
Russia doesn't need to jam them when the owner simply gives them the keys to the data and information.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 18:17
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
Russian troll spin machine in overdrive
+1
Now that we know Musk has been using Starlink for Russia’s benefit, we know why Ukraine hasn’t won already.
Ducking traitor.
LOL if you want to look too closely into a horse's mouth, you'd have to buy it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/
They were paid for, you goon. I bet you think Elon’s truck is masterful, too.
Terminals or service?
Anonymous
09/08/2023 18:04
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Musk and starlink are way better than anything the US would have ever come up with.
First off; Russia tried repeatedly to jam them; succeeded for a few hours and they (spaceX ) sent up a patch. It would have taken DISA months to approve any updates by usaf or whomever owned the asset. Think of this - it is spaceX versus Russia. A private company is smarter than the entire intelligence apparatus of a decent sized country. Mind blowing.
Second - they are so cheap Russia could not shoot them down (or the US for that matter) at 100x the cost of the little satellites - cause spaceX could just launch more that would bankrupt anyone trying to shoot them all down.
The only control the US has over musk is the airspace to launch his rockets from. And odds are he is probably buying islands so the US could not even stop him then.
First off; Russia tried repeatedly to jam them; succeeded for a few hours and they (spaceX ) sent up a patch. It would have taken DISA months to approve any updates by usaf or whomever owned the asset. Think of this - it is spaceX versus Russia. A private company is smarter than the entire intelligence apparatus of a decent sized country. Mind blowing.
Second - they are so cheap Russia could not shoot them down (or the US for that matter) at 100x the cost of the little satellites - cause spaceX could just launch more that would bankrupt anyone trying to shoot them all down.
The only control the US has over musk is the airspace to launch his rockets from. And odds are he is probably buying islands so the US could not even stop him then.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 17:56
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
We spend $880 billion a year on defense. Another $63 billion in foreign aid. Another $350 billion in Veterans Affairs.
The Ukraine war is cheapest opportunity we have ever gotten to stick it to the Russians, full stop.
+1000
Anonymous
09/08/2023 17:34
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
Russian troll spin machine in overdrive
+1
Now that we know Musk has been using Starlink for Russia’s benefit, we know why Ukraine hasn’t won already.
Ducking traitor.
LOL if you want to look too closely into a horse's mouth, you'd have to buy it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/08/us-quietly-paying-millions-send-starlink-terminals-ukraine-contrary-spacexs-claims/
They were paid for, you goon. I bet you think Elon’s truck is masterful, too.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 17:31
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
This ludicrous comment reminds me of the conspiracy wackos who say that drug manufacturers invented COVID-19 in order to sell vaccines. Among the inanities of this comment is that vaccines are among the least profitable products of a drug manufacturer.
Similarly, defense companies make money by selling the newest jets and aircraft carriers with the latest technology. Not by having 20-year-old mothballed artillery and tanks transferred to Ukraine. In addition, a money-hungry defense company does not want their equipment tested in an actual battle, because then everyone will know whether the equipment met specifications.
Doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together that if the old stuff from the reserves will be lost, new stuff will have to be bought.
I agree. Lockheed used its secret mind-control technology to force Putin to invade Ukraine so that the US would send mothballed equipment to Ukraine for its self-defense, and thus increase the budget for backup equipment. Pure genius!!! /s
The F-16s being sent Ukraine are from old model (As and Bs) Dutch, Norwegian, Belgian, and Danish stocks. Yes they’ve already been mothballed and heavily canabalized for spares though so maybe your on to something given what it’ll take to bring the aircraft to a flying state.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 17:21
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
We spend $880 billion a year on defense. Another $63 billion in foreign aid. Another $350 billion in Veterans Affairs.
The Ukraine war is cheapest opportunity we have ever gotten to stick it to the Russians, full stop.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 17:18
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Actually, there is some merit in some of the older technologies. Remember that they were designed for a different type of war - Fulda Gap scenario. The requirements back then were heavy armor battles to stop a Soviet invasion of Western Europe.
Unfortunately, the Pentagon hasn't seen fit to turn over A-10's and Vulcan cannons yet? A-10's would provide the close-in ground support needed to deal with defensive lines. Vulcan cannons are useful against UAVs and bunkers. Their range is also better against bunkers and ground targets.
I'd find it difficult to believe that Russian infantry wouldn't freak out once they see what a gatling gun does to a fixed defensive position, or what an A-10 would do to a bunker.
If anyone says an A-10 is obsolete technology, they're lying or ignorant. It has the best survival rate of any aircraft in US history.
"The A-10 force, flying more than 8,000 combat sorties, suffered only five A-10s destroyed (a loss rate of . 062 percent). Twenty of these aircraft returned with significant battle damage, and forty-five others returned with light damage that was repaired between sorties."
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/0893warthog/#:~:text=The%20A%2D10%20force%2C%20flying,that%20was%20repaired%20between%20sorties.
Crazed link lady, they are slow, have no spare parts lying around, and they’re difficult to repair by untrained individuals.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 17:14
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
This ludicrous comment reminds me of the conspiracy wackos who say that drug manufacturers invented COVID-19 in order to sell vaccines. Among the inanities of this comment is that vaccines are among the least profitable products of a drug manufacturer.
Similarly, defense companies make money by selling the newest jets and aircraft carriers with the latest technology. Not by having 20-year-old mothballed artillery and tanks transferred to Ukraine. In addition, a money-hungry defense company does not want their equipment tested in an actual battle, because then everyone will know whether the equipment met specifications.
Doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together that if the old stuff from the reserves will be lost, new stuff will have to be bought.
I agree. Lockheed used its secret mind-control technology to force Putin to invade Ukraine so that the US would send mothballed equipment to Ukraine for its self-defense, and thus increase the budget for backup equipment. Pure genius!!! /s
Anonymous
09/08/2023 16:26
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
Russian troll spin machine in overdrive
+1
Now that we know Musk has been using Starlink for Russia’s benefit, we know why Ukraine hasn’t won already.
Ducking traitor.
Here is the actual source: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/world/europe/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine.html
He is not a government official and can use this in whatever way he wants. I'm sure you sat in your corner nice and quiet like a good little girl when Facebook and Youtube were deplatforming people who didn't want to trot the party line. What did you say back then? Oh, they are private companies doing whatever they want. Okay? Okay. So is Musk.
Nope, I advocated that they become utilities and regulated platforms, Sorry to disappoint you.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 16:25
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Actually, there is some merit in some of the older technologies. Remember that they were designed for a different type of war - Fulda Gap scenario. The requirements back then were heavy armor battles to stop a Soviet invasion of Western Europe.
Unfortunately, the Pentagon hasn't seen fit to turn over A-10's and Vulcan cannons yet? A-10's would provide the close-in ground support needed to deal with defensive lines. Vulcan cannons are useful against UAVs and bunkers. Their range is also better against bunkers and ground targets.
I'd find it difficult to believe that Russian infantry wouldn't freak out once they see what a gatling gun does to a fixed defensive position, or what an A-10 would do to a bunker.
If anyone says an A-10 is obsolete technology, they're lying or ignorant. It has the best survival rate of any aircraft in US history.
"The A-10 force, flying more than 8,000 combat sorties, suffered only five A-10s destroyed (a loss rate of . 062 percent). Twenty of these aircraft returned with significant battle damage, and forty-five others returned with light damage that was repaired between sorties."
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/0893warthog/#:~:text=The%20A%2D10%20force%2C%20flying,that%20was%20repaired%20between%20sorties.
Unfortunately, the Pentagon hasn't seen fit to turn over A-10's and Vulcan cannons yet? A-10's would provide the close-in ground support needed to deal with defensive lines. Vulcan cannons are useful against UAVs and bunkers. Their range is also better against bunkers and ground targets.
I'd find it difficult to believe that Russian infantry wouldn't freak out once they see what a gatling gun does to a fixed defensive position, or what an A-10 would do to a bunker.
If anyone says an A-10 is obsolete technology, they're lying or ignorant. It has the best survival rate of any aircraft in US history.
"The A-10 force, flying more than 8,000 combat sorties, suffered only five A-10s destroyed (a loss rate of . 062 percent). Twenty of these aircraft returned with significant battle damage, and forty-five others returned with light damage that was repaired between sorties."
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/article/0893warthog/#:~:text=The%20A%2D10%20force%2C%20flying,that%20was%20repaired%20between%20sorties.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 16:24
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
Russian troll spin machine in overdrive
+1
Now that we know Musk has been using Starlink for Russia’s benefit, we know why Ukraine hasn’t won already.
Ducking traitor.
LOL if you want to look too closely into a horse's mouth, you'd have to buy it.
Anonymous
09/08/2023 16:22
Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!
War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.
Russian troll spin machine in overdrive
+1
Now that we know Musk has been using Starlink for Russia’s benefit, we know why Ukraine hasn’t won already.
Ducking traitor.
Here is the actual source: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/world/europe/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine.html
He is not a government official and can use this in whatever way he wants. I'm sure you sat in your corner nice and quiet like a good little girl when Facebook and Youtube were deplatforming people who didn't want to trot the party line. What did you say back then? Oh, they are private companies doing whatever they want. Okay? Okay. So is Musk.