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Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!

War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.

This ludicrous comment reminds me of the conspiracy wackos who say that drug manufacturers invented COVID-19 in order to sell vaccines. Among the inanities of this comment is that vaccines are among the least profitable products of a drug manufacturer.

Similarly, defense companies make money by selling the newest jets and aircraft carriers with the latest technology. Not by having 20-year-old mothballed artillery and tanks transferred to Ukraine. In addition, a money-hungry defense company does not want their equipment tested in an actual battle, because then everyone will know whether the equipment met specifications.

Doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together that if the old stuff from the reserves will be lost, new stuff will have to be bought.

Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!

War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.

This ludicrous comment reminds me of the conspiracy wackos who say that drug manufacturers invented COVID-19 in order to sell vaccines. Among the inanities of this comment is that vaccines are among the least profitable products of a drug manufacturer.

Similarly, defense companies make money by selling the newest jets and aircraft carriers with the latest technology. Not by having 20-year-old mothballed artillery and tanks transferred to Ukraine. In addition, a money-hungry defense company does not want their equipment tested in an actual battle, because then everyone will know whether the equipment met specifications.

Leading off today on Putin's ever-shrinking island..

"Two senior Russian generals responsible for Moscow’s air defenses have been detained in a corruption investigation"
"Major General Konstantin Ogienko, the former Special Air Defense Forces commander in Moscow"
"Major General Dmitry Belyatsky, commander of Russia's 4th Air Defense Division"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-detains-two-generals-responsible-123400043.html

"Vladislav Klyushin, who ran a Moscow-based information technology company that did work for the highest levels of the Russian government, was convicted in February of charges including wire fraud and securities fraud after a two-week trial in federal court in Boston."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wealthy-russian-kremlin-ties-gets-145402893.html

"three Tu-22M3 aircraft, one Kh-32 guided missile, two vehicles, and two service buildings"
https://english.nv.ua/nation/russia-acknowledges-damage-to-three-tu-22m3-aircraft-ukraine-war-news-50351738.html

Under the heading, "a rough winter for Ivan.."

"Russia can only produce "dozens" of Kalibr cruise missiles and an even smaller number of Iskander missiles in one month."
"Russia's [defense industrial base] cannot produce tires in sufficient quantity to replace the worn tires for military equipment vital to front line operations, causing some difficulty for wheeled vehicles to move in mud, rain and ice."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-soldiers-problems-missile-tyre-023606260.html

"thick black smoke is coming from the windows on the third floor of the plant building on Plekhanova Street in Moscow"
"the fire broke out in a microelectronics storage on the third floor"
"the Salyut plant manufactures ship radars"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/military-plant-moscow-catches-fire-114542579.html

"Not only have they already opened the very strategic storage, i.e., the one for the great war, for the world war. That is, they didn’t just use what was in the lineup [for the invasion of Ukraine]. But from these strategic warehouses, at least those standing in the open air, tanks, for example, covered with awnings, and most of the warehouses beyond the Urals are just like that, satellite images clearly show that 40% of the equipment has already been taken from there over the past year of the war."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-grinding-advance-towards-tokmak-202500535.html

Other signs on the horizon..

"Russia withdraws almost all military aircraft from Belarus"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/monitoring-group-russia-withdraws-almost-162909837.html

"Ukrainian forces killed 49 elite Russian paratroopers in a single day of fighting in its counteroffensive"
"the unit which suffered the loses, the Russian 247th VDV Regiment"
https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-killed-49-elite-russian-paratroopers-single-day-isw-2023-9#:~:text=Ukraine%20killed%2049%20elite%20Russian,the%20bodies%2C%20ISW%20report%20says&text=Ukrainian%20forces%20reportedly%20killed%2049,would%20retrieve%20the%20bodies%20himself.

Note: I believe this is the same unit with soldiers who reportedly refused to fight back in July due to equipment shortages and high casualties, as well as back in 2022 when 55 unit members were killed.
https://tvpworld.com/59539325/russian-armed-forces-including-elite-units-suffer-massive-losses

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Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!

War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.

Russian troll spin machine in overdrive

+1

Now that we know Musk has been using Starlink for Russia’s benefit, we know why Ukraine hasn’t won already.

Ducking traitor.

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Romania finally admits that a Russian drone landed on their territory. Face-saving announcement says" Russian drone parts".

Obviously article 5 won't be triggered for this, but... it's always nice to see modern technology defeat some politicians' reflex to lie.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66727788

A better question is why Ukraine is so keen for a NATO country to claim they’ve been attacked by Russia.

Russia has been using S-300's (air defense missiles) as artillery for several months now, so not news.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-now-firing-s-300-surface-to-air-missiles-at-land-targets-in-ukraine-official

"We are not seeing strong preparations for winter,"
“Perhaps because their logistics are complicated. They barely have time to meet their current needs for ammunition, protective equipment, and to bring in some new units to replace damaged or destroyed ones. That is why we have not seen such a massive procurement of winterization supplies.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-military-notes-absence-substantial-115500617.html

This is an interesting observation.

Just one more push with a big aid package boys! Lockheed needs you!

If you do the math on 113b the US has given ukriane and assume 120k dead Russians so far that is about 1m per kill. $340k per casualty at 300k Russians killed or wounded.

That does not include lost hardware. And obviously the US is paying Ukrainian government salaries and a bunch of other stuff.

Still a total bargain. Would like to see higher Russian death rates & casualties - but maybe estimates are low or Ukraine can cause more damage inside of Russia to get better ROI.

most of our aid has been used hand me downs and soon to be decommissioned equipment. it has a value for accounting reasons but isn't new spending.

And this is why I get nervous. The US has been a day late and dollar short with regards to Ukraine’s struggle for years. For example why are we providing mothballed F-16s and not F-35? There is absolutely no reason the Danes or Dutch or Norwegians should operate F-35. These airframes have to go where they are needed. It’s sad and just needlessly adds to the suffering of Ukrainians.

Its a catch-22. The old stuff is reliable and generally easy to use and maintain. The new stuff, generally not so much. F-35 availability is pretty low in peacetime with full NATO logistics. Give them to Ukraine with improvised everything and little training, and they won't really accomplish much. Maybe fly just far enough to crash in Russian held territory.

Contractors are maintaining the equipment. The Ukrainians aren’t going to accomplish anything with previous generation hardware. We continue to screw these people.

Dude, there is zero chance any F-35 is going to a thoroughly corrupt, technologically backward, broke-ass country like Ukraine. Singapore is just getting to the point where they may get theirs. Give it up. And it won't make a difference anyway. Maybe in 25 years.

I disagree. Ukraine earned it's place in NATO and once they're a member, I doubt anyone would dare object to Ukraine having it's own fleet of F-35's. They've proven themselves many times over in comparison to other allies.

And here is the official English version of the Ukrainian and Russian largesse in Forte dei Marmi:
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/09/02/russias-last-resort-en

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Anonymous wrote:How is Musk, a US citizen, not brought up for treason and sabotage for this?

Ah yes, not doing the bidding of a guy named Vindman and his cousins in Ukraine is an act of treason.

When has listening to the chicken hawks ever worked in our favor?

Doing the bidding of RUSSIA, at their specific request, is not going to help him win DoD contracts in the future.

Anonymous wrote:The terrorist nation Russia just can't help themselves. They just have a burning need to cement themselves as the world's greatest evil. I'm sure the pro-Russia poster here will claim it's a false flag, that they were hiding drones in the refrigerator, etc.

"In a horrific scene, Russia’s invading forces attacked a busy market in Kostyantynivka, Donetsk Oblast with a brutal ballistic missile strike that killed 16 civilians – including a child – in the afternoon of Sept. 6, reported Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/horrific-scenes-russia-ballistic-missile-141400581.html

Whaddaya know? It now looks like it was an Ukrainian rocket accident.

https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/09/08/vletaet-krasnaia-raketa

Use google translate or wait a couple of days for an official English language version. This is Novaya Gazeta, a fervently liberal, anti-Putin outlet that has been expelled from Russia.

Anonymous wrote:How is Musk, a US citizen, not brought up for treason and sabotage for this?

He has no commitments to Ukraine. How is this treason?

Anonymous wrote:How is Musk, a US citizen, not brought up for treason and sabotage for this?

Ah yes, not doing the bidding of a guy named Vindman and his cousins in Ukraine is an act of treason.

When has listening to the chicken hawks ever worked in our favor?

Anonymous wrote:K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!

War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.

Russian troll spin machine in overdrive

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Romania finally admits that a Russian drone landed on their territory. Face-saving announcement says" Russian drone parts".

Obviously article 5 won't be triggered for this, but... it's always nice to see modern technology defeat some politicians' reflex to lie.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66727788

A better question is why Ukraine is so keen for a NATO country to claim they’ve been attacked by Russia.

Russia has been using S-300's (air defense missiles) as artillery for several months now, so not news.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-now-firing-s-300-surface-to-air-missiles-at-land-targets-in-ukraine-official

"We are not seeing strong preparations for winter,"
“Perhaps because their logistics are complicated. They barely have time to meet their current needs for ammunition, protective equipment, and to bring in some new units to replace damaged or destroyed ones. That is why we have not seen such a massive procurement of winterization supplies.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-military-notes-absence-substantial-115500617.html

This is an interesting observation.

Just one more push with a big aid package boys! Lockheed needs you!

If you do the math on 113b the US has given ukriane and assume 120k dead Russians so far that is about 1m per kill. $340k per casualty at 300k Russians killed or wounded.

That does not include lost hardware. And obviously the US is paying Ukrainian government salaries and a bunch of other stuff.

Still a total bargain. Would like to see higher Russian death rates & casualties - but maybe estimates are low or Ukraine can cause more damage inside of Russia to get better ROI.

most of our aid has been used hand me downs and soon to be decommissioned equipment. it has a value for accounting reasons but isn't new spending.

And this is why I get nervous. The US has been a day late and dollar short with regards to Ukraine’s struggle for years. For example why are we providing mothballed F-16s and not F-35? There is absolutely no reason the Danes or Dutch or Norwegians should operate F-35. These airframes have to go where they are needed. It’s sad and just needlessly adds to the suffering of Ukrainians.

Its a catch-22. The old stuff is reliable and generally easy to use and maintain. The new stuff, generally not so much. F-35 availability is pretty low in peacetime with full NATO logistics. Give them to Ukraine with improvised everything and little training, and they won't really accomplish much. Maybe fly just far enough to crash in Russian held territory.

Contractors are maintaining the equipment. The Ukrainians aren’t going to accomplish anything with previous generation hardware. We continue to screw these people.

Nonsense. The Ukrainians will maximize the use of every thing they can get their hands on. A perfect example is how they took old, defunct 1950s anti-tank grenades, fitted them with tailfins, attached them to cheap FPV drones with a release mechanism, and used them to take out dozens and dozens of Russian tanks, APCs, artillery pieces, and so on.

The F-35s will backfill the F-16s in NATO countries. It makes no sense to take all of the fighters in Europe, send them to Ukraine, leaving the rest of Europe defenseless.

K Street spin machine in overdrive- need that next appropriation!!! More villas, more yachts !!

War is being won. Just another $25 billion installment needed.

Anonymous wrote:How is Musk, a US citizen, not brought up for treason and sabotage for this?

Are you American even?

How is Musk, a US citizen, not brought up for treason and sabotage for this?