Anonymous
08/24/2024 08:49
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Republicans like women dying for want of a simple surgical procedure, and I think they get hot and breathless at the idea of women trapped with children they don’t want. They think we’ll go back to the pre-Progressive era.
Look, I am pro choice but this argument that women get trapped with children they don’t want is a loser IMO. There is typically a year and a half wait for a couple who want to adopt an infant. I know - and hugely admire - a handful of women who were brave enough to go through an unwanted pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption. Including one who was raped. Her son is my daughter’s boyfriend. There are options besides being ”trapped” with unwanted children and when we pretend there aren’t, it’s just not persuasive.
You are delusional. The reason adoption is so hard is because very few women choose to give up the babies they carry. Do you have children? Can I come and adopt them? No you don’t wanna give them up?! But other woman should right.
Or we could just have better help for low income people in this country so they aren’t forced to give up their babies to wealthier people.
I watched one of my sisters and two of my sister-in-laws give newborns up for adoption. I watched my best friend from high school - a married gay man - adopt and raise a baby given up for adoption. But as usual, someone reads what they want to out of a post rather than what is actual written. I said I was pro choice. I didn’t say every woman who has an unwanted pregnancy must go to term and give the baby up for adoption. But that’s what you want my post to say because any moderate position taken on abortion - such as acknowledging that adoption is an option- gets shut down these days in favor of the extreme and the extremes at both ends of the abortion debate don’t solve the issue.
Having most of the people in your life give up babies for adoption isn’t the flex you think it. I’ll rely on studies and data vs. anecdotes. Most women who have unwanted pregnancies don’t give up their babies. And many of the babies who do get given up end up in the very broken foster care system.
Anonymous
08/24/2024 08:19
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Republicans like women dying for want of a simple surgical procedure, and I think they get hot and breathless at the idea of women trapped with children they don’t want. They think we’ll go back to the pre-Progressive era.
Look, I am pro choice but this argument that women get trapped with children they don’t want is a loser IMO. There is typically a year and a half wait for a couple who want to adopt an infant. I know - and hugely admire - a handful of women who were brave enough to go through an unwanted pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption. Including one who was raped. Her son is my daughter’s boyfriend. There are options besides being ”trapped” with unwanted children and when we pretend there aren’t, it’s just not persuasive.
You are delusional. The reason adoption is so hard is because very few women choose to give up the babies they carry. Do you have children? Can I come and adopt them? No you don’t wanna give them up?! But other woman should right.
Or we could just have better help for low income people in this country so they aren’t forced to give up their babies to wealthier people.
I watched one of my sisters and two of my sister-in-laws give newborns up for adoption. I watched my best friend from high school - a married gay man - adopt and raise a baby given up for adoption. But as usual, someone reads what they want to out of a post rather than what is actual written. I said I was pro choice. I didn’t say every woman who has an unwanted pregnancy must go to term and give the baby up for adoption. But that’s what you want my post to say because any moderate position taken on abortion - such as acknowledging that adoption is an option- gets shut down these days in favor of the extreme and the extremes at both ends of the abortion debate don’t solve the issue.
Anonymous
08/24/2024 07:41
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Republicans like women dying for want of a simple surgical procedure, and I think they get hot and breathless at the idea of women trapped with children they don’t want. They think we’ll go back to the pre-Progressive era.
Look, I am pro choice but this argument that women get trapped with children they don’t want is a loser IMO. There is typically a year and a half wait for a couple who want to adopt an infant. I know - and hugely admire - a handful of women who were brave enough to go through an unwanted pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption. Including one who was raped. Her son is my daughter’s boyfriend. There are options besides being ”trapped” with unwanted children and when we pretend there aren’t, it’s just not persuasive.
There's a wait for White infants. There's a good chance unwanted Black babies will end up in the foster system.
More likely adoption scenario, the parent who really can't manage will try for a while but eventually gives up or has the child taken away. If young enough, might get adopted but seriously psychologically damaged. I know two of those kids, adopted at 2, now late teens with really serious problems despite best efforts of loving adoptive parents.
Adoption is not the easy solution the forced-birth faction thinks it is.
Anonymous
08/24/2024 07:33
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Probably? I want to know what she is actually proposing. It makes a difference.
Anonymous
08/24/2024 07:06
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Republicans like women dying for want of a simple surgical procedure, and I think they get hot and breathless at the idea of women trapped with children they don’t want. They think we’ll go back to the pre-Progressive era.
Look, I am pro choice but this argument that women get trapped with children they don’t want is a loser IMO. There is typically a year and a half wait for a couple who want to adopt an infant. I know - and hugely admire - a handful of women who were brave enough to go through an unwanted pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption. Including one who was raped. Her son is my daughter’s boyfriend. There are options besides being ”trapped” with unwanted children and when we pretend there aren’t, it’s just not persuasive.
You are delusional. The reason adoption is so hard is because very few women choose to give up the babies they carry. Do you have children? Can I come and adopt them? No you don’t wanna give them up?! But other woman should right.
Or we could just have better help for low income people in this country so they aren’t forced to give up their babies to wealthier people.
Anonymous
08/24/2024 06:10
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Republicans like women dying for want of a simple surgical procedure, and I think they get hot and breathless at the idea of women trapped with children they don’t want. They think we’ll go back to the pre-Progressive era.
Look, I am pro choice but this argument that women get trapped with children they don’t want is a loser IMO. There is typically a year and a half wait for a couple who want to adopt an infant. I know - and hugely admire - a handful of women who were brave enough to go through an unwanted pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption. Including one who was raped. Her son is my daughter’s boyfriend. There are options besides being ”trapped” with unwanted children and when we pretend there aren’t, it’s just not persuasive.
Are you seriously saying women and girls should be forced to carry their rapists baby to term so some parentless couple can adopt (buy) an infant? That’s great that your daughter’s boyfriend was lucky and was adopted by a loving couple (but I bet he needs therapy) but I would never ask someone to host a person if they didn’t want to.
Anonymous
08/24/2024 05:43
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Republicans like women dying for want of a simple surgical procedure, and I think they get hot and breathless at the idea of women trapped with children they don’t want. They think we’ll go back to the pre-Progressive era.
Look, I am pro choice but this argument that women get trapped with children they don’t want is a loser IMO. There is typically a year and a half wait for a couple who want to adopt an infant. I know - and hugely admire - a handful of women who were brave enough to go through an unwanted pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption. Including one who was raped. Her son is my daughter’s boyfriend. There are options besides being ”trapped” with unwanted children and when we pretend there aren’t, it’s just not persuasive.
Anonymous
Anonymous
08/23/2024 17:18
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Republicans like women dying for want of a simple surgical procedure, and I think they get hot and breathless at the idea of women trapped with children they don’t want. They think we’ll go back to the pre-Progressive era.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 16:08
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
The law of mind your damn business. In other words, back to the protections of roe
Anonymous
08/23/2024 16:07
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
She probably wants to go back to R v W being the law of the land. You know.. the decision to be between you and the doctor, and not some lawyer or state government employee.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 16:05
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
Anonymous wrote:What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
Trump is more responsible for overturning roe than anyone. no one cares what he says. He did what he did and he will pay the price
Anonymous
08/23/2024 16:03
Subject: Roe v Wade struck down
What is Harris’ proposed law?
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
Trump says leave it to the states. Kennedy says point of viability.
Anonymous
08/23/2024 09:34
Subject: Re:Roe v Wade struck down
Well said.