Anonymous wrote:Rachel's lips looked chapped and dry, and she was very pasty in complexion. affectless tone, not a good actress, bland, not gettong the hype. She looks loke a blander Sarah Michelle Gellar or Mandy Moore. yawn. Paula was well acted and also gorgeous!

Rachel is hot. She is hotter than 99.99999% of the women of DCUM. That’s why they rip on her so hard.

Anonymous wrote:If she were jaw-dropping hot it wouldn't be credible that she is afraid of being his "plus one" forever and not be able to make her own career or be notable/memorable on her own. She's exactly the right amount of hot for her story line.

I agree! I think it's why she is also so uncomfortable with being a trophy. In my opinion, her look is very "cute" and pretty, but doesn't scream "HOT!" and her character doesn't seem like someone who has gone through life almost universally regarded as sex-symbol level hot or where she would primarily be valued in life for her looks. She's obviously uncomfortable with it and seems slightly surprised that's how she's regarded by others in her marriage. I think if jaw-droppingly hot that would be disingenuous you could make it to your 30s and be coy about looking like a supermodel, but with her look it is more plausible.

Rachel's lips looked chapped and dry, and she was very pasty in complexion. affectless tone, not a good actress, bland, not gettong the hype. She looks loke a blander Sarah Michelle Gellar or Mandy Moore. yawn. Paula was well acted and also gorgeous!

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Anonymous wrote: I have a family member who works at a place like the white lotus. It’s a pretty good job compared to others at his education level snd especially in the location. It’s interesting that dcumers are largely viewing the hotel jobs as akin to toiling in the salt mines or inherently very demeaning. My family member would like to make more of course but it’s genuinely a pretty good job he enjoys and is glad to have.

What’s the background of your family member? For Kai’s character the job is demeaning. The government stole his family’s ancestral land and he’s working a crappy job on his own land.

It's not really demeaning though. He might feel some internal conflict - as he expresses to Paula - but he seems to feel like it's a pretty good job, worth holding onto. Then she whispers in his ear...

Yes it is, did you purposely ignore the part about his family’s land being stolen? He’s working this job bc his family doesn’t have a lot of money and he has to support himself somehow, anyone would feel demeaned and maybe even traumatized by working a low wage service job on land they rightfully own. This, by the way, is similar to the real stories of many native Hawaiians, similar to Native Americans here. Are you really this clueless?

You realize when he says "His family land was stolen" he does not mean the exact spot where the resort sits but Hawaii as a general place right? Do you think he means the exact spot the resort sits on? Are you really that clueless?

No idiot, he literally says in the show that land owned by his family/community was taken by the US government and sold to hotel developers who built the resort. That’s why his family is suing for that land and they’re pissed that he works there.

What year do you think that happened, given Hawaiian history? Do you think Kai was alive then?

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It was hard from what little he said whether this was generations ago, or more recent.
Eminent domain seizures still happens in the US. They take land from lower class and middle class for developers. Usually they give a “fair” price but the developers still make a killing on it.
This is one where they “condemned” land in Hawaii so they could have a public beach. They started the process in 2011 - not 1911.
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/17385/Hawaii-ICA-Bungles-Hanalei-River-Eminent-Domain-Case

Have you heard any cases of eminent domain being used to build a hotel? I haven't, but I am willing to look at any links to stories suggesting this might have happened to Kai during his lifetime.

Not trying to diminish the cruelty toward native Hawaiians. But I think we have to keep the likely timeframe in mind when considering how Kai talked and what he did, too.

I don't think the "in his lifetime" thing matters that much. My family's homestead was seized by imminent domain... in the 1920s. I am still very aware of the seizure, and what it cost us (it was a major strip of the PCH). If the government today moved the PCH so that beautiful coastline could be built on, I would want to sue.

If she were jaw-dropping hot it wouldn't be credible that she is afraid of being his "plus one" forever and not be able to make her own career or be notable/memorable on her own. She's exactly the right amount of hot for her story line.

If you're posting that you don't think Rachel is hot, please state whether you are a man or a woman and your sexual orientation.

Because I think most hetero men find her hot.

Different poster here, Rachel wasn't that attractive to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Rachel has the a ss of a 12 year old

It seems really important to several posters that the rest of us understand that Rachel isn’t hot. Why?

I didn't get hot from her (the character was too childish and needy), but I don't think she has a little girl's body.

She was just too skinny, untoned, and lacked confidence. It made the scene where she threw off her coverup to strut her stuff in front of Olivia and Paula unbelievable. She wouldn’t likely have done that, and they certainly wouldn’t have sat up and taken off their sunglasses to marvel at her hotness.

I don’t know how to tell you this in a way that you will come to believe it, but many, many people don’t share your opinion. It’s your opinion; that’s all it is.

And many of us don’t think Rachel is as hot as you think she is. She is pretty but not that pretty. She’d make a great arm candy to a DMV “provider” which is exactly the character she is portraying in the White lotus.

I don’t even think she’s particularly hot. I’m just saying that most people would. That’s just reality. So I don’t get the point of all of the posters who keep pointing out that they don’t think she’s hot. All right already. Duly noted.

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Anonymous wrote:Rachel has the a ss of a 12 year old

It seems really important to several posters that the rest of us understand that Rachel isn’t hot. Why?

I didn't get hot from her (the character was too childish and needy), but I don't think she has a little girl's body.

She was just too skinny, untoned, and lacked confidence. It made the scene where she threw off her coverup to strut her stuff in front of Olivia and Paula unbelievable. She wouldn’t likely have done that, and they certainly wouldn’t have sat up and taken off their sunglasses to marvel at her hotness.

I don’t know how to tell you this in a way that you will come to believe it, but many, many people don’t share your opinion. It’s your opinion; that’s all it is.

And many of us don’t think Rachel is as hot as you think she is. She is pretty but not that pretty. She’d make a great arm candy to a DMV “provider” which is exactly the character she is portraying in the White lotus.

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I think she was pretty with a great body, but her beauty was everyday beauty. Meaning: she’s like a striking girl you’d see walking around the mall. Not a lot of makeup, but good skin, good body, good eyes, symmetrical face, etc. combined it makes her pretty - very pretty. But she wasn’t the most attractive person I’ve ever seen…

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Anonymous wrote:Rachel has the a ss of a 12 year old

It seems really important to several posters that the rest of us understand that Rachel isn’t hot. Why?

I didn't get hot from her (the character was too childish and needy), but I don't think she has a little girl's body.

She was just too skinny, untoned, and lacked confidence. It made the scene where she threw off her coverup to strut her stuff in front of Olivia and Paula unbelievable. She wouldn’t likely have done that, and they certainly wouldn’t have sat up and taken off their sunglasses to marvel at her hotness.

I don’t know how to tell you this in a way that you will come to believe it, but many, many people don’t share your opinion. It’s your opinion; that’s all it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Rachel has the a ss of a 12 year old

It seems really important to several posters that the rest of us understand that Rachel isn’t hot. Why?

I didn't get hot from her (the character was too childish and needy), but I don't think she has a little girl's body.

She was just too skinny, untoned, and lacked confidence. It made the scene where she threw off her coverup to strut her stuff in front of Olivia and Paula unbelievable. She wouldn’t likely have done that, and they certainly wouldn’t have sat up and taken off their sunglasses to marvel at her hotness.

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Anonymous wrote:Rachel has the a ss of a 12 year old

It seems really important to several posters that the rest of us understand that Rachel isn’t hot. Why?

I didn't get hot from her (the character was too childish and needy), but I don't think she has a little girl's body.

Anonymous wrote:Rachel has the a ss of a 12 year old

It seems really important to several posters that the rest of us understand that Rachel isn’t hot. Why?

Anonymous wrote: I have a family member who works at a place like the white lotus. It’s a pretty good job compared to others at his education level snd especially in the location. It’s interesting that dcumers are largely viewing the hotel jobs as akin to toiling in the salt mines or inherently very demeaning. My family member would like to make more of course but it’s genuinely a pretty good job he enjoys and is glad to have.

Ha. Good point. My guess is that many of the DCUMers who think this way come from the kind of money and privilege that has prevented them from ever having to deign to work in a service industry.