Anonymous
07/20/2021 13:51
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
Given that Tholen has zero liability, the answer is easy - just say they were wrong.
Depends on what you mean by "liability."
It's not like she's going to be ordered to pay damages. On the other hand, a circuit court judge could find she didn't exercise due care.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 13:47
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
It's in All Opinions are Local.
You too could write a local opinion piece and the Post would probably publish it.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 13:45
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
Given that Tholen has zero liability, the answer is easy - just say they were wrong.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 12:43
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
According to the Post article, Tholen said she has “always worked for my students’ well-being.”
She should have added "Langley" before "students." It still wouldn't be accurate, but it would be closer to reality.
She should have added "Langley" before "students." It still wouldn't be accurate, but it would be closer to reality.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 12:41
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
But he IS wrong. Which we will see when this gets thrown out in court. We live in VA, not CA. The standard to force a recall in VA is incredibly high. Tholen may have made questionable decisions, but she didn’t do anything overtly criminal. Sure, you can argue until you are blue in the face that she should have voted to open schools, but given that other board members agreed with her and you know..ongoing pandemic, murkey advice from
public health officials, the case is mighty thin.
It may get thrown out in court; much depends on the judge to whom the case is assigned.
However, the standard for removal under Virginia law is much lower than that needed for a criminal conviction - a public official may be recalled for, among other things, "neglect of duty" and "incompetence."
Regardless of what happens to the recall, having over 5000 of your constituents sign a petition, in person and under penalty of perjury, attesting to the fact they think you're unfit for office is quite a rebuke.
Okay Rory.
Not Rory, but it would be great if he replaced her.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 12:38
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
But he IS wrong. Which we will see when this gets thrown out in court. We live in VA, not CA. The standard to force a recall in VA is incredibly high. Tholen may have made questionable decisions, but she didn’t do anything overtly criminal. Sure, you can argue until you are blue in the face that she should have voted to open schools, but given that other board members agreed with her and you know..ongoing pandemic, murkey advice from
public health officials, the case is mighty thin.
It may get thrown out in court; much depends on the judge to whom the case is assigned.
However, the standard for removal under Virginia law is much lower than that needed for a criminal conviction - a public official may be recalled for, among other things, "neglect of duty" and "incompetence."
Regardless of what happens to the recall, having over 5000 of your constituents sign a petition, in person and under penalty of perjury, attesting to the fact they think you're unfit for office is quite a rebuke.
+1 like it or not, the petitions send a message.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 12:20
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
But he IS wrong. Which we will see when this gets thrown out in court. We live in VA, not CA. The standard to force a recall in VA is incredibly high. Tholen may have made questionable decisions, but she didn’t do anything overtly criminal. Sure, you can argue until you are blue in the face that she should have voted to open schools, but given that other board members agreed with her and you know..ongoing pandemic, murkey advice from
public health officials, the case is mighty thin.
It may get thrown out in court; much depends on the judge to whom the case is assigned.
However, the standard for removal under Virginia law is much lower than that needed for a criminal conviction - a public official may be recalled for, among other things, "neglect of duty" and "incompetence."
Regardless of what happens to the recall, having over 5000 of your constituents sign a petition, in person and under penalty of perjury, attesting to the fact they think you're unfit for office is quite a rebuke.
Okay Rory.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 12:15
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
That’s an opinion piece.
The Post covered it separately as well:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-school-board-member-parents-recall/2021/07/19/ae5e2f84-e8be-11eb-ba5d-55d3b5ffcaf1_story.html
"The Fairfax County Parents Association members involved in the recall effort, who have dubbed themselves the Replace FCSP School Board on social media..."
I see the copy-editing is up to the usual Wsahington Psot standards. Personally, I suspect billionaire lobbying operations disguised as local newspapers would be more effective with a better quality control, but I guess it ain't my $$$ on the line.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 12:12
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
But he IS wrong. Which we will see when this gets thrown out in court. We live in VA, not CA. The standard to force a recall in VA is incredibly high. Tholen may have made questionable decisions, but she didn’t do anything overtly criminal. Sure, you can argue until you are blue in the face that she should have voted to open schools, but given that other board members agreed with her and you know..ongoing pandemic, murkey advice from
public health officials, the case is mighty thin.
It may get thrown out in court; much depends on the judge to whom the case is assigned.
However, the standard for removal under Virginia law is much lower than that needed for a criminal conviction - a public official may be recalled for, among other things, "neglect of duty" and "incompetence."
Regardless of what happens to the recall, having over 5000 of your constituents sign a petition, in person and under penalty of perjury, attesting to the fact they think you're unfit for office is quite a rebuke.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 12:04
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
But he IS wrong. Which we will see when this gets thrown out in court. We live in VA, not CA. The standard to force a recall in VA is incredibly high. Tholen may have made questionable decisions, but she didn’t do anything overtly criminal. Sure, you can argue until you are blue in the face that she should have voted to open schools, but given that other board members agreed with her and you know..ongoing pandemic, murkey advice from
public health officials, the case is mighty thin.
The advice from our local health department and the AAP (and it's state chapter here in Virginia) was not murky. It was open.
Anyone who actually watched the work session they had with the health department the day before they yanked the rug out from under us knows that the Health Dept told them it was safe to open but that they might need to close late fall.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 11:50
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
But he IS wrong. Which we will see when this gets thrown out in court. We live in VA, not CA. The standard to force a recall in VA is incredibly high. Tholen may have made questionable decisions, but she didn’t do anything overtly criminal. Sure, you can argue until you are blue in the face that she should have voted to open schools, but given that other board members agreed with her and you know..ongoing pandemic, murkey advice from
public health officials, the case is mighty thin.
The advice from our local health department and the AAP (and it's state chapter here in Virginia) was not murky. It was open.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 11:37
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
But he IS wrong. Which we will see when this gets thrown out in court. We live in VA, not CA. The standard to force a recall in VA is incredibly high. Tholen may have made questionable decisions, but she didn’t do anything overtly criminal. Sure, you can argue until you are blue in the face that she should have voted to open schools, but given that other board members agreed with her and you know..ongoing pandemic, murkey advice from
public health officials, the case is mighty thin.
Anonymous
07/20/2021 10:19
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Will the signed petitions be posted online? Would love to see who signed and how many came from Great Falls, McLean, Herndon, and Falls Church.
I'd bet a large number of the signatures came from the Langley area - the very people she's tried to suck up to the most.
I'd bet a large number of the signatures came from the Langley area - the very people she's tried to suck up to the most.
Anonymous
07/19/2021 22:37
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying
He may be annoying, but he’s not wrong. Tholen needs to go.
Anonymous
07/19/2021 22:07
Subject: Re:Places to Sign Recall Petitions - Tholen/Omeish/Cohen
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Holy crap - they got over 5000 signatures to recall Tholen, and the petition has now been filed in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/19/fairfax-county-parents-are-taking-back-power/
Regardless of what happens to this particular initiative, Tholen should do the right thing and step down. Whether it's shuttered schools, anti-Asian changes to TJ admissions, biased adjustments to school boundaries, or poor oversight of FCPS spending, she has repeatedly failed Dranesville.
I wish the Post had written something that wasn’t so biased.
It is LITERALLY a opinion article, sweetie.
I wish the post would stop giving Rory Cooper such a loud voice though, he's so annoying