Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 12:50     Subject: ludlow-taylor
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I am dumbfounded that educated adults would think this about elementary students. We are talking about Ludlow Taylor. There are no pregnant children. There is no talk of gangs. The 5th graders are into My Little Ponies, and Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Get real & get a life besides slandering the work (sweat, blood, & tears) of the adults and children at LT. We don't cheat. We play, educate, create.


Dumbfounded, sounds tiring. Fabulous, you play, educate, create. So tell us this, why LT is around 3% white (generous estimate) from K up in a catchment area that's at least two-thirds white?

The problem is bad mouthing? I assure you that we aren't leaving because of bad mouthing. We're going because we don't want our kid, who travels to Europe a couple times a year to visit relatives, speaks a European language, lives in a 800K house, plays Suzuki violin like a champ and has her own Mac, to stick out like a sore thumb after K.

Principal Cobbs may have a respectable degree, but she's no fan of well-educated IB parents. Let's modify the job ad, shall we?

Gentrification-friendly principal sought for Ludlow-Taylor school. Needs degree from an elite college or graduate school program. Must be willing to crack down on cheating on standardized tests and local addresses, and eager to work with a diverse group of in-boundary parents to build a true neighborhood school in record time.





Good luck with that.


Did you really just say that? I feel bad for your child for having a parent who is an elitist ass. What an obnoxious thing to say. You are gross.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 12:49     Subject: ludlow-taylor
This forum is poison and so counterproductive. Can you imagine how demoralizing it must be for the staff at the school? They show up every day and work hard to make it a better school. And then people who have made very little effort if any to help get online and tear it down. As someone who doesn't work at the school but has worked with the staff (and the parents who are dedicated and really put in the sweat equity), I find this forum shameful.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 12:40     Subject: ludlow-taylor
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This is DCPS we're talking about. This kid is going to stick out like a sore thumb at nearly any DCPS in the city, especially EOTP. Move to Brent or a nice JKLM or send your kid to private school where she'll blend right in. Ludlow Taylor was never, ever going to be a good fit for you.


Maury parent who disagrees with the never ever part. I've got a 900K house and my kid doesn't stick out in K, not at all. Ten years ago, when I bought my big house on Lincoln Park, and Maury was on the verge of being auctioned off to a condo developer, I wouldn't have believed that this could be case.

Spare us all your defeatist attitude, hon.

I don't have a defeatist attitude; it's the in-bounds LT people who do! Almost to a person they are determined to pull their kids out by K, and they bash anyone who tries to stay as "ultra-liberals" or "hippies." Anyone who feels like they are better than everyone else because their kid has their own Macbook is going to stand out because they're probably a status-conscious jerk. The Maury parents I've met have been lovely and inclusive. Actually, so are the few L-T parents that I know.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 12:33     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:
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This is DCPS we're talking about. This kid is going to stick out like a sore thumb at nearly any DCPS in the city, especially EOTP. Move to Brent or a nice JKLM or send your kid to private school where she'll blend right in. Ludlow Taylor was never, ever going to be a good fit for you.


Maury parent who disagrees with the never ever part. I've got a 900K house and my kid doesn't stick out in K, not at all. Ten years ago, when I bought my big house on Lincoln Park, and Maury was on the verge of being auctioned off to a condo developer, I wouldn't have believed that this could be case.

Spare us all your defeatist attitude, hon.





Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 10:58     Subject: ludlow-taylor
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And there was no cheating. Get over that.




There can't be people who actually believe this.

Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 10:57     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:

The problem is bad mouthing? I assure you that we aren't leaving because of bad mouthing. We're going because we don't want our kid, who travels to Europe a couple times a year to visit relatives, speaks a European language, lives in a 800K house, plays Suzuki violin like a champ and has her own Mac, to stick out like a sore thumb after K.

This is DCPS we're talking about. This kid is going to stick out like a sore thumb at nearly any DCPS in the city, especially EOTP. Move to Brent or a nice JKLM or send your kid to private school where she'll blend right in. Ludlow Taylor was never, ever going to be a good fit for you.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 10:56     Subject: ludlow-taylor
When it happens it'll happen overnight, and LT will be every bit as desirable as Brent and perhaps more so than Maury. To the LT teacher who keeps posting: what would YOU do to change the test scores, you must agree they can be better as well?
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 10:44     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I am dumbfounded that educated adults would think this about elementary students. We are talking about Ludlow Taylor. There are no pregnant children. There is no talk of gangs. The 5th graders are into My Little Ponies, and Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Get real & get a life besides slandering the work (sweat, blood, & tears) of the adults and children at LT. We don't cheat. We play, educate, create.


Dumbfounded, sounds tiring. Fabulous, you play, educate, create. So tell us this, why LT is around 3% white (generous estimate) from K up in a catchment area that's at least two-thirds white?

The problem is bad mouthing? I assure you that we aren't leaving because of bad mouthing. We're going because we don't want our kid, who travels to Europe a couple times a year to visit relatives, speaks a European language, lives in a 800K house, plays Suzuki violin like a champ and has her own Mac, to stick out like a sore thumb after K.

Principal Cobbs may have a respectable degree, but she's no fan of well-educated IB parents. Let's modify the job ad, shall we?

Gentrification-friendly principal sought for Ludlow-Taylor school. Needs degree from an elite college or graduate school program. Must be willing to crack down on cheating on standardized tests and local addresses, and eager to work with a diverse group of in-boundary parents to build a true neighborhood school in record time.





Good luck with that.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 10:27     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I am dumbfounded that educated adults would think this about elementary students. We are talking about Ludlow Taylor. There are no pregnant children. There is no talk of gangs. The 5th graders are into My Little Ponies, and Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Get real & get a life besides slandering the work (sweat, blood, & tears) of the adults and children at LT. We don't cheat. We play, educate, create.


Dumbfounded, sounds tiring. Fabulous, you play, educate, create. So tell us this, why LT is around 3% white (generous estimate) from K up in a catchment area that's at least two-thirds white?

The problem is bad mouthing? I assure you that we aren't leaving because of bad mouthing. We're going because we don't want our kid, who travels to Europe a couple times a year to visit relatives, speaks a European language, lives in a 800K house, plays Suzuki violin like a champ and has her own Mac, to stick out like a sore thumb after K.

Principal Cobbs may have a respectable degree, but she's no fan of well-educated IB parents. Let's modify the job ad, shall we?

Gentrification-friendly principal sought for Ludlow-Taylor school. Needs degree from an elite college or graduate school program. Must be willing to crack down on cheating on standardized tests and local addresses, and eager to work with a diverse group of in-boundary parents to build a true neighborhood school in record time.


+1

Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 10:17     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:

I am dumbfounded that educated adults would think this about elementary students. We are talking about Ludlow Taylor. There are no pregnant children. There is no talk of gangs. The 5th graders are into My Little Ponies, and Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Get real & get a life besides slandering the work (sweat, blood, & tears) of the adults and children at LT. We don't cheat. We play, educate, create.


Dumbfounded, sounds tiring. Fabulous, you play, educate, create. So tell us this, why LT is around 3% white (generous estimate) from K up in a catchment area that's at least two-thirds white?

The problem is bad mouthing? I assure you that we aren't leaving because of bad mouthing. We're going because we don't want our kid, who travels to Europe a couple times a year to visit relatives, speaks a European language, lives in a 800K house, plays Suzuki violin like a champ and has her own Mac, to stick out like a sore thumb after K.

Principal Cobbs may have a respectable degree, but she's no fan of well-educated IB parents. Let's modify the job ad, shall we?

Gentrification-friendly principal sought for Ludlow-Taylor school. Needs degree from an elite college or graduate school program. Must be willing to crack down on cheating on standardized tests and local addresses, and eager to work with a diverse group of in-boundary parents to build a true neighborhood school in record time.


Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 09:26     Subject: ludlow-taylor
"I'll correct myself on what I meant by non-performing. Working on a reading problem is NOT a non-performing child in my mind. A non-performing child is one that is more focused on skipping school, running with gangs, becoming a statistic as a single teen mother, etc, etc etc."



I am dumbfounded that educated adults would think this about elementary students. We are talking about Ludlow Taylor. There are no pregnant children. There is no talk of gangs. The 5th graders are into My Little Ponies, and Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Get real & get a life besides slandering the work (sweat, blood, & tears) of the adults and children at LT. We don't cheat. We play, educate, create.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 09:26     Subject: ludlow-taylor
No cheating at Ludlow Taylor. Yeah. Sure. That's what Kaya says. Can you explain the drop in test scores after test security was tightened.

Cobbs and at least some of her staff are cheaters. It may not be classroom teachers, but someone in the building was working their pink pearl eraser overtime.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 09:24     Subject: ludlow-taylor
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Wow...someone took a crash course in educational policy. I actually laughed out loud when I read this. Especially the bold. What do you find problematic about the teachers? Also please share with me exactly what makes you think Principal Cobbs did not recieve her master's degree from an institution that meets your standards? I mean I get the neighborhood snob thing but now we have degree snobs on here. Yikes.

So confused why people move to Stanton Park when they clearly have racial and SES hang ups. The neighborhood is mixed in terms of SES. people have owned houses for a while, people rent, there is rent control, etc. Why not move somewhere else? Weird.


OK, so you're laughing, but what, exactly, are you proposing?

The Brent and Maury principals are far better educated that Cobbs and yea, let's face it, white and gentrifier friendly in a majority high-SES neighborhood (which doesn't hurt if attracting nervous IB parents is the goal). Bring on the degree snobs if they can do something about LT's erasure habit. We're AA in STEM careers who won't touch LT with a ten-foot pole (so put that in your pipe and smoke it, Ms. Yikes). So confused as to why PPs waste time tearing down others with intriguing ideas, calling PPs hung up to compensate for their lack of initiative, vision and, above all, intellectual wattage. Not weird, just sad.




FYI Principal Cobbs holds a degree in Elementary Education from Northwestern University.

And there was no cheating. Get over that.












You seem to be very certain there was no cheating at LT. So with your insider knowledge, I am eager to hear a logical explanation for the DC cas score rise and drop seem here:

http://www.greatschools.org/modperl/achievement/dc/31

Along with an explanation of the astronomical erasure rate on the test booklets.

Waiting.
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 09:19     Subject: ludlow-taylor
Right, but we were discussing Brent and the attitude of the Brent Neighbor founders. Brent is an elementary school. Very few kids ages 3 to 11 are skipping school, running with gangs or becoming teen Mom moms. Maybe you were thinking of g and t programs for middle high school but it came off as describing elementary students as non performing
Anonymous
Post 06/11/2013 09:11     Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
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Give me a break. Having lived in the Brent District for more than a decade, I know how relieved parents tend to be that hard-to-educate OOB kids are mostly gone from our neighborhood school, or going. Why would high-SES parents want dozens of kids from tough neighborhoods at Brent? Those who want this are free to buy homes in Wards 5, 7 and 8, or in nearby Trinidad. Brent parents don't speak in these terms because it's not PC to do so in an urban setting, not because none privately long for the day when most of the low-performing kids are out of the picture.

What parents in increasingly upscale neighborhoods would welcome with open arms are test-in gifted and talented programs in which particularly capable and high-performing low-income kids sit in class alongside run of the mill high-SES kids, as in NYC and other US cities. DCPS won't even consider such programs so here we are, competing to out noble one another on DCUM.


I think you must be representing more of the newer parents at Brent, not the parents who started Brent Neighbors nearly a decade ago. Or maybe your own feelings. My peers and I with older in boundary kids DO NOT share this attitude. No one wants a majority of academically or socially struggling kids to make the class all about remediation--that isn't good for anyone. But the early Brent Neighbor people valued/value a well-rounded and diverse school that represents the city we live in as a whole. That is simply the truth.


Don't make this a race thing when it isn't. Its a socioeconimic thing. Its not about being elite or not or being diverse or not. Its about having your child learn and not be distracted by non-performing kids.
Oh puh-lease! (different poster here) A kid who has trouble reading and is working on it is not a non-performing kid - but you wouldn't want that kid if she comes from a working class or poor family. I really feel sorry for you if that's what you believe.

BTW - My kid was better off at her DCPS when she went to school with a mix of kids. Like the earlier pp said, no, you don't want your kid to be the only higher SES kid but you do want a good mix of kids. Helps children learn to avoid growing up into a snob.


I'll correct myself on what I meant by non-performing. Working on a reading problem is NOT a non-performing child in my mind. A non-performing child is one that is more focused on skipping school, running with gangs, becoming a statistic as a single teen mother, etc, etc etc. See also the original quote of "What parents in increasingly upscale neighborhoods would welcome with open arms are test-in gifted and talented programs in which particularly capable and high-performing low-income kids sit in class alongside run of the mill high-SES kids, as in NYC and other US cities. DCPS won't even consider such programs so here we are, competing to out noble one another on DCUM."