Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 23:20     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?

Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!


Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.



DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.


How exactly am I racist trash?



Your comments show the racist trash you are.

DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?


My great grandfather came over from Italy in 1901 and was a manual laborer scraping by for the rest of his life. He had it rough too. But he traveled here of his own free will. And he was able to live with his family. His kids weren’t sold off like property. He didn’t lose his name, language, religion, or culture. His kids were able to go to school and get better jobs. Those kids moved around. None got lynched. There were no US policies limiting his options for housing & banking. So he had it tough, but it wasn’t really comparable.

That doesn’t change the fact that PP is racist and should sit TF down.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 23:07     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

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Fact: There is a wealth gap in the US, caused by US policies.

Let’s acknowledge it and try to fix it. You don’t need to “feel guilty” to support that.


Sounds good to me. But there is a lot of noise around this subject, and a fair amount of it seems to be more interested in fixing the blame than fixing the problem.

That's my complaint. Reparations are about fixing blame. If it were about the wealth gap, they would stick to the present.


In the present, black people are still experiencing the residual harm from prior US policies as well as current system racism. Addressing the wealth gap - through formal reparations or other program - is the best way to make amends and correct for the future.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 23:04     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?

Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!


Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.



DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.


How exactly am I racist trash?



Your comments show the racist trash you are.

DP here. Why? Because Sicilian immigrants 100 years ago had such a great life?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 23:02     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?

Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!


Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.



DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.


How exactly am I racist trash?


Your comments show the racist trash you are.


How on earth do my comments make me a racist?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 23:01     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.


Affirmative action
What % of black HS seniors went to college vs. % of white seniors in 2019?
You explain this to me: why, having an affirmative action benefit, black HS still go to college less than white or asian students?
If they had an equal opportunity to go to college there would be a proportionate number of black college students. There are fewer black students because they still have LESS opportunity - even with affirmative action.

Title I funding in schools (not specifically for minorities, but they certainly benefit)
What were standardized testing scores for black elementary students vs. white students in 2019?
What?
If black students had equal opportunity for early/elementary school education their scores would be on par for white students. They aren’t because they have LESS opportunity - even with title 1 funding.

Loans specifically for minority owned businesses
What % of businesses are black-owned?
Do you expect white people to open a business for blacks and to handle it to them? If the black person actually wants to open a business, he/she has to do it, not white or Asian guy.
Of course not, but given the last 400 years it’s been harder for blacks people to open businesses. Even today it’s still harder because they have less wealth. This is another wealth begets wealth. Even with these loans there still isn’t comparable opportunity.

Grants and scholarships specifically for minority students
What % of non-FA scholarships go to black students?
Non-FA scholarships are given for merits and special achievements, not for the color of your skin.
Sorry? Thought you were asking about scholarships specifically for blacks people.

Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:51     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?

Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!


Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.



DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.


How exactly am I racist trash?



Your comments show the racist trash you are.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:50     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?

Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!


Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.



DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.


How exactly am I racist trash?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:40     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

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Examples?


Affirmative action
What % of black HS seniors went to college vs. % of white seniors in 2019?

You explain this to me: why, having an affirmative action benefit, black HS still go to college less than white or asian students?

Title I funding in schools (not specifically for minorities, but they certainly benefit)
What were standardized testing scores for black elementary students vs. white students in 2019?

What?

Loans specifically for minority owned businesses
What % of businesses are black-owned?

Do you expect white people to open a business for blacks and to handle it to them? If the black person actually wants to open a business, he/she has to do it, not white or Asian guy.

Grants and scholarships specifically for minority students
What % of non-FA scholarships go to black students?

Non-FA scholarships are given for merits and special achievements, not for the color of your skin.

I'm sure there are tons more.


^^ Sorry, you need some #s to back those up claims of “the same, or MORE, opportunities”.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:28     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?

Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!


Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.



DP: you, you, YOU, are pure racist trash. Sit TF down.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:25     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm Irish and my family was discriminated for almost a century... wheres my money?

Some SJW here will tell you that they benefitted from “white privilege.” I would just love for my Sicilian ancestors to come back from the dead and have some piss ant SJW tell them to their faces that they were privileged in any way. Now that would be entertainment!


Racist trash like you have had enough privilege. Sit TF down.

Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:24     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Fact: There is a wealth gap in the US, caused by US policies.

Let’s acknowledge it and try to fix it. You don’t need to “feel guilty” to support that.


Sounds good to me. But there is a lot of noise around this subject, and a fair amount of it seems to be more interested in fixing the blame than fixing the problem.

That's my complaint. Reparations are about fixing blame. If it were about the wealth gap, they would stick to the present.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:23     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

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An injection of wealth (reparations or other program) can help fix those other gaps.


There have been plenty of programs. And, there has been plenty of cash welfare.

Wealth may beget wealth, but work also begets wealth. Not for everyone, but for some. Plenty of people with inherited wealth have lost it. Look at lottery winners.


+1
Nobody is guaranteed wealth. Opportunity, yes.


Yes, there is an enormous opportunity gap. Wealth brings opportunity. That’s the whole point.


Go tell that to the millions of Vietnamese and Chileans who came here with no money at all after we bombed their countries to death.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:21     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
An injection of wealth (reparations or other program) can help fix those other gaps.


There have been plenty of programs. And, there has been plenty of cash welfare.

Wealth may beget wealth, but work also begets wealth. Not for everyone, but for some. Plenty of people with inherited wealth have lost it. Look at lottery winners.


+1
Nobody is guaranteed wealth. Opportunity, yes.


Yes, there is an enormous opportunity gap. Wealth brings opportunity. That’s the whole point.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:21     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
An injection of wealth (reparations or other program) can help fix those other gaps.


There have been plenty of programs. And, there has been plenty of cash welfare.

Wealth may beget wealth, but work also begets wealth. Not for everyone, but for some. Plenty of people with inherited wealth have lost it. Look at lottery winners.


When were black people paid reparations in the US?

White people have benefited from government programs that excluded blacks for 100+ years. Where are the black-specific programs?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2020 22:01     Subject: Re:It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

Anonymous wrote:
An injection of wealth (reparations or other program) can help fix those other gaps.


There have been plenty of programs. And, there has been plenty of cash welfare.

Wealth may beget wealth, but work also begets wealth. Not for everyone, but for some. Plenty of people with inherited wealth have lost it. Look at lottery winners.


+1
Nobody is guaranteed wealth. Opportunity, yes.