Anonymous
Post 11/16/2020 09:20     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:I walked by this house the other day and it was fully gutted and the back of the house is completely gone. Any fun guesses on what's happening to it? It was purchased in May for $765,000 which seems like a steep price for a flip for the area.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/643-Morris-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898623



gut job with a pop-back for more sq footage!!

my guess, will probably be 4 bedroom 4 bath with a full in-law suite, 1.3 mil.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2020 09:20     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:I walked by this house the other day and it was fully gutted and the back of the house is completely gone. Any fun guesses on what's happening to it? It was purchased in May for $765,000 which seems like a steep price for a flip for the area.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/643-Morris-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898623



Are you kidding? Once they pimp out the basement (maybe even turn it into a standalone unit) and add a couple of bathrooms, this house will be worth well over a million.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2020 09:16     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

I walked by this house the other day and it was fully gutted and the back of the house is completely gone. Any fun guesses on what's happening to it? It was purchased in May for $765,000 which seems like a steep price for a flip for the area.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/643-Morris-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898623

Anonymous
Post 11/15/2020 18:35     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What do we think about this one listed yesterday? 4br, 2.5ba, 1800+ sq ft for $860k. End unit, looks pretty spacious, nice porch and patio. One of the quieter blocks in the neighborhood. No parking though.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/935-5th-St-NE-20002/home/9896557

This isn't bad. It doesn't look quite as flippy as most of the houses that have gone on the market this year. The biggest negative is the tiny outdoor space in the back. I can't tell what the island stove has for venting, either. Out of this bunch of houses just posted, this is the one I'd be most tempted to put in an offer on. It's probably priced about right, IMO.

Sure enough, this one's already pending.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:4br/2.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $915k. Very nice interior but way too close to Florida Ave for my taste.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1205-6th-St-NE-20002/home/9898206

Ow, my eyes. The interior on this one is way too, "Paint it all bright white!" for my tastes. Painting the paneled woodwork under the stairs is a particular travesty IMO. Tiny outdoor space in back, and I agree that it's too close to Florida. This one's overpriced IMO.

This one is pending, too. So much my my thinking it was overpriced.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2020 10:25     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What do we think about this one listed yesterday? 4br, 2.5ba, 1800+ sq ft for $860k. End unit, looks pretty spacious, nice porch and patio. One of the quieter blocks in the neighborhood. No parking though.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/935-5th-St-NE-20002/home/9896557

This isn't bad. It doesn't look quite as flippy as most of the houses that have gone on the market this year. The biggest negative is the tiny outdoor space in the back. I can't tell what the island stove has for venting, either. Out of this bunch of houses just posted, this is the one I'd be most tempted to put in an offer on. It's probably priced about right, IMO.

Anonymous wrote:And another new one today: 3br/2ba 1700+ sq ft for $799k. Nice curb appeal, on a one-way street. No pictures at the time of this post, which I took to mean the inside is a disaster, but then I saw the 3D walkthrough and it's pretty nice. So I guess the listing agent is just doing the seller a disservice by not including standard interior photos.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1150-4th-St-NE-20002/home/9892096

That's not bad either, although I wish they (or someone in the past) had left the wood trim unpainted (BTW, I'm convinced that Capitol Hill rowhomes with unpainted woodwork sell for a bit more than equivalent houses with painted wood or the open-floorplan flipper interiors). The basement is only semi-finished, though (although it's included in the square footage as such), and the way it's laid out I'm not sure how easy it'd be to turn it into livable space. I kind of like how the back side of the upstairs is basically a suite with a dressing room, but that uses up one of the bedrooms and I wonder if that would make it hard to fit furniture (note how the only furniture in one of the BRs is a dresser, and the bed is crammed against one wall).

I'm not sure about that block, though. Weren't there a couple of houses around 4th & L that spent forever listed? I can't find them ATM, though.

Still, at $799k, I think this will move fairly quickly.

Anonymous wrote:4br/2.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $915k. Very nice interior but way too close to Florida Ave for my taste.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1205-6th-St-NE-20002/home/9898206

Ow, my eyes. The interior on this one is way too, "Paint it all bright white!" for my tastes. Painting the paneled woodwork under the stairs is a particular travesty IMO. Tiny outdoor space in back, and I agree that it's too close to Florida. This one's overpriced IMO.

Anonymous wrote:3br/3.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $900k:
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

This one also screams "Flip!" to me. Blah. Maybe it's someone's style. It's not mine. The main floor is odd—they crammed a small table into a corner of the kitchen because there's no real dining area other than the kitchen bar (that kichen design would work better with a longer house, IMO). Seems awfully cramped for 2000 sqft, IMO. The top floor pop-up is 11'x10'; I'm not sure what that would be useful for. I'd guess that this is a little overpriced too, especially for being this close to Florida Ave.

Anonymous wrote:3br/1.5ba - 1700 sq ft - $899k: On a busy street, but convenient to Eastern Market, Potomac Ave, and Lincoln Park. Nice garden house included.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/524-11th-St-SE-20003/home/9909367

This might have been gorgeous if the woodwork had been left alone (I know, it's a theme with me). At least it doesn't look like a flip. The back courtyard looks really nice, though.

I assume the dog in picture 26 doesn't convey with the house.

Anonymous wrote:2br/1.5ba - 1100+ sq ft - $779k. Condo alternative of the week, and one that actually looks like an easy place to live. Walk-in closet, basement, and a GARAGE.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/312-3rd-St-NE-20002/home/9891220

The inside is blah—except for tthe kitchen tile, which I love. Alas, that's about the only thing I love about that kitchen. Still, in that location around the corner and a block from the senate office buildings, someone's going to snap that up quickly.



FYI -- 312 3rd NE is on it's second listing agent. It was re-listed as new but total days on the market is 24. Honestly, that is a big number for a small house with a not-so-great floor-plan. Love the garage though. And basement/cellar.


I dunno! That seems like a pretty good deal for something with a garage and a basement AND super close to the metro. I think it’s a bargain TBH.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2020 10:22     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses prices appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just looked up 403 9th on Zillow because I thought it looked familiar. Sure enough, it's a relisting:

5/29/20: Listed at $995,900
6/15/20: Price change to $975,000
7/19/20: Pending
8/12/20: Relisted at $860,000

OP. Oof, sorry I missed that it was a relisting. That's quite a dramatic price drop. I wonder what the home inspection revealed.

Something must be very wrong with that house aside from all the things that are obviously not great from the photos. It just went back on the market after yet another sale fell through. To the price history above, add:

9/3/20: Price drop to $810,000
9/9/20: Price increase to $860,000
9/11/20: Price "drop" to $810,000
10/19/20: Pending
11/14/20: Relisted at $810,000

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/403-9th-St-NE-20002/home/9904200



I've been in this house (403 9th NE). Hate to say it, but very strong odor. Cats, I think maybe covered up by moth balls and perfume. I'd still buy it. Great location and curb appeal. No parking and no possibility for parking otherwise a builder would have bought it by now.


Wow, why not rip out the carpet and repaint? Sounds like investing even $10k could have a big impact. At $810k it’s a bargain for whoever has a plan to remediate the smell.

It also has the kitchen in the basement, which I think reduces value, but my neighbors sold a similar house for well into the 900 range, so I don’t think that’s it.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2020 10:14     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What do we think about this one listed yesterday? 4br, 2.5ba, 1800+ sq ft for $860k. End unit, looks pretty spacious, nice porch and patio. One of the quieter blocks in the neighborhood. No parking though.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/935-5th-St-NE-20002/home/9896557

This isn't bad. It doesn't look quite as flippy as most of the houses that have gone on the market this year. The biggest negative is the tiny outdoor space in the back. I can't tell what the island stove has for venting, either. Out of this bunch of houses just posted, this is the one I'd be most tempted to put in an offer on. It's probably priced about right, IMO.

Anonymous wrote:And another new one today: 3br/2ba 1700+ sq ft for $799k. Nice curb appeal, on a one-way street. No pictures at the time of this post, which I took to mean the inside is a disaster, but then I saw the 3D walkthrough and it's pretty nice. So I guess the listing agent is just doing the seller a disservice by not including standard interior photos.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1150-4th-St-NE-20002/home/9892096

That's not bad either, although I wish they (or someone in the past) had left the wood trim unpainted (BTW, I'm convinced that Capitol Hill rowhomes with unpainted woodwork sell for a bit more than equivalent houses with painted wood or the open-floorplan flipper interiors). The basement is only semi-finished, though (although it's included in the square footage as such), and the way it's laid out I'm not sure how easy it'd be to turn it into livable space. I kind of like how the back side of the upstairs is basically a suite with a dressing room, but that uses up one of the bedrooms and I wonder if that would make it hard to fit furniture (note how the only furniture in one of the BRs is a dresser, and the bed is crammed against one wall).

I'm not sure about that block, though. Weren't there a couple of houses around 4th & L that spent forever listed? I can't find them ATM, though.

Still, at $799k, I think this will move fairly quickly.

Anonymous wrote:4br/2.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $915k. Very nice interior but way too close to Florida Ave for my taste.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1205-6th-St-NE-20002/home/9898206

Ow, my eyes. The interior on this one is way too, "Paint it all bright white!" for my tastes. Painting the paneled woodwork under the stairs is a particular travesty IMO. Tiny outdoor space in back, and I agree that it's too close to Florida. This one's overpriced IMO.

Anonymous wrote:3br/3.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $900k:
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

This one also screams "Flip!" to me. Blah. Maybe it's someone's style. It's not mine. The main floor is odd—they crammed a small table into a corner of the kitchen because there's no real dining area other than the kitchen bar (that kichen design would work better with a longer house, IMO). Seems awfully cramped for 2000 sqft, IMO. The top floor pop-up is 11'x10'; I'm not sure what that would be useful for. I'd guess that this is a little overpriced too, especially for being this close to Florida Ave.

Anonymous wrote:3br/1.5ba - 1700 sq ft - $899k: On a busy street, but convenient to Eastern Market, Potomac Ave, and Lincoln Park. Nice garden house included.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/524-11th-St-SE-20003/home/9909367

This might have been gorgeous if the woodwork had been left alone (I know, it's a theme with me). At least it doesn't look like a flip. The back courtyard looks really nice, though.

I assume the dog in picture 26 doesn't convey with the house.

Anonymous wrote:2br/1.5ba - 1100+ sq ft - $779k. Condo alternative of the week, and one that actually looks like an easy place to live. Walk-in closet, basement, and a GARAGE.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/312-3rd-St-NE-20002/home/9891220

The inside is blah—except for tthe kitchen tile, which I love. Alas, that's about the only thing I love about that kitchen. Still, in that location around the corner and a block from the senate office buildings, someone's going to snap that up quickly.



FYI -- 312 3rd NE is on it's second listing agent. It was re-listed as new but total days on the market is 24. Honestly, that is a big number for a small house with a not-so-great floor-plan. Love the garage though. And basement/cellar.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2020 10:06     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses prices appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just looked up 403 9th on Zillow because I thought it looked familiar. Sure enough, it's a relisting:

5/29/20: Listed at $995,900
6/15/20: Price change to $975,000
7/19/20: Pending
8/12/20: Relisted at $860,000

OP. Oof, sorry I missed that it was a relisting. That's quite a dramatic price drop. I wonder what the home inspection revealed.

Something must be very wrong with that house aside from all the things that are obviously not great from the photos. It just went back on the market after yet another sale fell through. To the price history above, add:

9/3/20: Price drop to $810,000
9/9/20: Price increase to $860,000
9/11/20: Price "drop" to $810,000
10/19/20: Pending
11/14/20: Relisted at $810,000

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/403-9th-St-NE-20002/home/9904200



I've been in this house (403 9th NE). Hate to say it, but very strong odor. Cats, I think maybe covered up by moth balls and perfume. I'd still buy it. Great location and curb appeal. No parking and no possibility for parking otherwise a builder would have bought it by now.
Anonymous
Post 11/15/2020 08:43     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses prices appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just looked up 403 9th on Zillow because I thought it looked familiar. Sure enough, it's a relisting:

5/29/20: Listed at $995,900
6/15/20: Price change to $975,000
7/19/20: Pending
8/12/20: Relisted at $860,000

OP. Oof, sorry I missed that it was a relisting. That's quite a dramatic price drop. I wonder what the home inspection revealed.

Something must be very wrong with that house aside from all the things that are obviously not great from the photos. It just went back on the market after yet another sale fell through. To the price history above, add:

9/3/20: Price drop to $810,000
9/9/20: Price increase to $860,000
9/11/20: Price "drop" to $810,000
10/19/20: Pending
11/14/20: Relisted at $810,000

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/403-9th-St-NE-20002/home/9904200
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2020 21:50     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Oh, and I realize that most of the houses on that list aren't in quite as nice a spot at 402 G.


Huge difference in location even though just a few blocks away.
This.


School district bump alone probably worth $50K.


They are zoned for exactly the same schools!!! LT, SH and Eastern. Are you an gent with a house on the 400 block of G Street? Sigh...


Yes, this neighborhood difference was more pronounced 20+ years ago when those extra two - three blocks meant a higher likelihood of getting shot. Now it is not a big deal, at all, or there are even bonuses, as you're living closer to your peers vs NIMBY retirees who have these entrenched attitudes "Old -Hill" ...

It cuts both ways, though... I for one would much rather live in the 600 block of G, than in the blocks near Eastern Market.



Almost true but not quite. I purposely avoid G street between 7th and 8th because of the constant loitering.


That is exactly one house. I feel bad for the neighbors, though, because those guys are ALWAYS outside and they smoke so much pot.


OMG. What is with that scene. What is it about that one spot on that one block that makes them want to be right there? They are smoking a ton of pot 20 feet from the front door of Ludlow Taylor. Can you imagine knowingly buying a house on that block knowing what's going on there?


They live there. Or, at least, they’re related to someone who does. I’ve seen people touring the house that’s for sale next door and I always feel a stab of sympathy for the seller. Who would buy that place for $1 million after walking through the cloud of pot smoke? On the other hand, the guys there always say hello very nicely when I walk by.


I enjoy how they scream curses and foul language regardless of whether or not I am walking by with my 8 year old. About time they learned those words so maybe I should than them, right PP?
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2020 20:38     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
They live there. Or, at least, they’re related to someone who does. I’ve seen people touring the house that’s for sale next door and I always feel a stab of sympathy for the seller. Who would buy that place for $1 million after walking through the cloud of pot smoke? On the other hand, the guys there always say hello very nicely when I walk by.


Formatting error. Let's try this again.

LOL at the bolded. You like that? It's one thing when people smile/nod and move out the way when you walk by. I don't need half a dozen men yelling hi after me when I'm walking on the other side of the street.


There’s a hang out and smoke pot spot right across from LT on Morris Pl too. WTF. I also feel bad for those neighbors.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2020 13:49     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What do we think about this one listed yesterday? 4br, 2.5ba, 1800+ sq ft for $860k. End unit, looks pretty spacious, nice porch and patio. One of the quieter blocks in the neighborhood. No parking though.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/935-5th-St-NE-20002/home/9896557


One of my pet peeves is stovetops without a hood. They look ridiculous and I would never buy a house that did not have a hood.


This is a good point and not something I would have thought about when flipping through the photos. We use our hood a lot because we cook almost every night. I wonder how expensive/hard it would be to put one in? It's annoying that the stovetop is on the island for that reason (and also because I think it would mean the island would be very messy all the time.

Otherwise, though, I really like this one. It's close to one of my favorite playgrounds in the neighborhood and I like these quiet blocks between K and H near the Whole Foods -- they have a nice urban neighborhood feel and really are convenient to everything. Also, it's so big! I don't mind the tiny back patio because there is so much living space inside, plus the front porch and yard. Compared to my little 1100 sq ft house, this feels palatial, and for well under $1m.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2020 13:38     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:What do we think about this one listed yesterday? 4br, 2.5ba, 1800+ sq ft for $860k. End unit, looks pretty spacious, nice porch and patio. One of the quieter blocks in the neighborhood. No parking though.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/935-5th-St-NE-20002/home/9896557


One of my pet peeves is stovetops without a hood. They look ridiculous and I would never buy a house that did not have a hood.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2020 10:17     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:I guess I should have just done these all in a single post. Last batch for now:

4br/2.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $915k. Very nice interior but way too close to Florida Ave for my taste.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1205-6th-St-NE-20002/home/9898206

3br/3.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $900k:
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

3br/1.5ba - 1700 sq ft - $899k: On a busy street, but convenient to Eastern Market, Potomac Ave, and Lincoln Park. Nice garden house included.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/524-11th-St-SE-20003/home/9909367

2br/1.5ba - 1100+ sq ft - $779k. Condo alternative of the week, and one that actually looks like an easy place to live. Walk-in closet, basement, and a GARAGE.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/312-3rd-St-NE-20002/home/9891220



haha the photo of the dog on the 11th street one!
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2020 10:16     Subject: Re:Are these H St. NE / Capitol Hill houses priced appropriately?

Anonymous wrote:What do we think about this one listed yesterday? 4br, 2.5ba, 1800+ sq ft for $860k. End unit, looks pretty spacious, nice porch and patio. One of the quieter blocks in the neighborhood. No parking though.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/935-5th-St-NE-20002/home/9896557

This isn't bad. It doesn't look quite as flippy as most of the houses that have gone on the market this year. The biggest negative is the tiny outdoor space in the back. I can't tell what the island stove has for venting, either. Out of this bunch of houses just posted, this is the one I'd be most tempted to put in an offer on. It's probably priced about right, IMO.

Anonymous wrote:And another new one today: 3br/2ba 1700+ sq ft for $799k. Nice curb appeal, on a one-way street. No pictures at the time of this post, which I took to mean the inside is a disaster, but then I saw the 3D walkthrough and it's pretty nice. So I guess the listing agent is just doing the seller a disservice by not including standard interior photos.

https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1150-4th-St-NE-20002/home/9892096

That's not bad either, although I wish they (or someone in the past) had left the wood trim unpainted (BTW, I'm convinced that Capitol Hill rowhomes with unpainted woodwork sell for a bit more than equivalent houses with painted wood or the open-floorplan flipper interiors). The basement is only semi-finished, though (although it's included in the square footage as such), and the way it's laid out I'm not sure how easy it'd be to turn it into livable space. I kind of like how the back side of the upstairs is basically a suite with a dressing room, but that uses up one of the bedrooms and I wonder if that would make it hard to fit furniture (note how the only furniture in one of the BRs is a dresser, and the bed is crammed against one wall).

I'm not sure about that block, though. Weren't there a couple of houses around 4th & L that spent forever listed? I can't find them ATM, though.

Still, at $799k, I think this will move fairly quickly.

Anonymous wrote:4br/2.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $915k. Very nice interior but way too close to Florida Ave for my taste.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/1205-6th-St-NE-20002/home/9898206

Ow, my eyes. The interior on this one is way too, "Paint it all bright white!" for my tastes. Painting the paneled woodwork under the stairs is a particular travesty IMO. Tiny outdoor space in back, and I agree that it's too close to Florida. This one's overpriced IMO.

Anonymous wrote:3br/3.5ba - 2000 sq ft - $900k:
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/656-Orleans-Pl-NE-20002/home/9898038

This one also screams "Flip!" to me. Blah. Maybe it's someone's style. It's not mine. The main floor is odd—they crammed a small table into a corner of the kitchen because there's no real dining area other than the kitchen bar (that kichen design would work better with a longer house, IMO). Seems awfully cramped for 2000 sqft, IMO. The top floor pop-up is 11'x10'; I'm not sure what that would be useful for. I'd guess that this is a little overpriced too, especially for being this close to Florida Ave.

Anonymous wrote:3br/1.5ba - 1700 sq ft - $899k: On a busy street, but convenient to Eastern Market, Potomac Ave, and Lincoln Park. Nice garden house included.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/524-11th-St-SE-20003/home/9909367

This might have been gorgeous if the woodwork had been left alone (I know, it's a theme with me). At least it doesn't look like a flip. The back courtyard looks really nice, though.

I assume the dog in picture 26 doesn't convey with the house.

Anonymous wrote:2br/1.5ba - 1100+ sq ft - $779k. Condo alternative of the week, and one that actually looks like an easy place to live. Walk-in closet, basement, and a GARAGE.
https://www.redfin.com/DC/Washington/312-3rd-St-NE-20002/home/9891220

The inside is blah—except for tthe kitchen tile, which I love. Alas, that's about the only thing I love about that kitchen. Still, in that location around the corner and a block from the senate office buildings, someone's going to snap that up quickly.