 05/02/2020 23:15
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 23:15
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It turns out this story is not sticking at all, but there should be an official investigation, just for the history books, and to stave off any accusations of hypocrisy.
We're well past that point, just based on the reactions of Democrats and the media alone.
We are never past the point of investigating. I want one, personally, and I am a leftie.

 05/02/2020 23:10
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 23:10
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It turns out this story is not sticking at all, but there should be an official investigation, just for the history books, and to stave off any accusations of hypocrisy.
We're well past that point, just based on the reactions of Democrats and the media alone.
We are never past the point of investigating. I want one, personally, and I am a leftie.

 05/02/2020 23:07
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 23:07
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It turns out this story is not sticking at all, but there should be an official investigation, just for the history books, and to stave off any accusations of hypocrisy.
We're well past that point, just based on the reactions of Democrats and the media alone.

 05/02/2020 23:05
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 23:05
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It turns out this story is not sticking at all, but there should be an official investigation, just for the history books, and to stave off any accusations of hypocrisy.
The hypocrisy charges are around the media response. And on that score, WaPo, NYTimes and NPR investigated and found no story. MSNBC invited her to appear and she declined. Not even Fox has been able to dig up much dirt, and you know they’ve been trying. Let’s not waste taxpayer money.

 05/02/2020 23:03
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 23:03
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:
It turns out this story is not sticking at all, but there should be an official investigation, just for the history books, and to stave off any accusations of hypocrisy.

 05/02/2020 23:00
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 23:00
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:
It turns out this story is not sticking at all, but there should be an official investigation, just for the history books, and to stave off any accusations of hypocrisy.

 05/02/2020 22:57
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:57
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Even in a court of law where they have access to all the evidence, to depositions, to witnesses, to investigations, to trials...it can be very hard to know exactly what happened in a case. It is very rare to conclude that something definitely didn't happen in sexual assault cases, it is usually that there is not enough evidence to definitely conclude that it did (which doesn't mean it didn't happen, the evidence is just not sufficient and leaves room for doubt).
So the idea that people on here saying they know for sure it didn't happen based on what they heard on a radio podcast or by reading an article online (that likely is from a source that support their own perspective and confirms their own biases) is ridiculous. There are only two people who know for sure what did or didn't happen.
In an April 2019 interview Tara Reade "said of Biden: 'I wasn’t scared of him, that he was going to take me in a room or anything. It wasn’t that kind of vibe.'"
Yes, I would like the posters defending Reade to find one example of a victim saying something as exculpatory as this.
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2017/10/13/16465064/harvey-weinstein-rape-allegations-asia-argento
I was reading Ronan Farrow’s excellent New Yorker article on Harvey Weinstein’s alleged history of rape and sexual harassment, when I got to Weinstein’s alleged rape of actress Asia Argento. Argento claims that Weinstein performed oral sex on her, against her will, in a hotel room.
Argento goes on to say that she grew close to Weinstein after he assaulted her — accepting gifts, meeting his mother, and having consensual sex with him.
Once upon a time, my rapist, another well-connected and accomplished man, did the same to me. Not only did he encourage me to pretend as though nothing bad had happened between us, but he also made it abundantly clear that he would trade on his privilege to encourage me to stay silent.
“A real rape victim wouldn’t do that”
Among the basic tenets of rape culture is the typecasting of the rapist as an aberrant monster and an outlier. Rape culture does not allow for the possibility that a rapist can be a regular guy with a family, your neighbor or colleague, a trusted friend, or the cute guy smiling from across the room at a party. To allow for that possibility is to admit that none of us are truly safe. It would also mean admitting that the victim could not have predicted the rapist’s behavior.
One rape culture myth is the idea that “a real rape victim” always acts bravely in the aftermath. She would never appear to be on good terms with her rapist — she would only treat him as the monster he revealed himself to be. A famous example of this is the case of Emma Sulkowicz, or “mattress girl,” who famously accused a fellow Columbia University student of rape. Because Sulkowicz sent friendly texts to the student, Paul Nungesser, after the incident, doubt was cast on her story. Nungesser went on to sue Columbia for sexual discrimination and reached a settlement.
“A real rape victim wouldn’t do that,” a male friend told me when we were discussing the controversy.
Yet to cast doubt on this scenario ignores both the power differentials between men and women in society and the self-loathing survivors deal with in the aftermath of rape.

 05/02/2020 22:55
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:55
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 05/02/2020 22:48
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:48
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							A number of former President Barack Obama administration and campaign officials have also defended Biden, with some pointing out that no evidence of such allegations was uncovered as part of the rigorous vetting process Biden went through to be chosen for the ticket in 2008.
William Jeffress, one of the nearly dozen lawyers who served on the Obama campaign’s vice presidential search team, told NBC News that their background check found no evidence of any complaints of any kind, either of sexual harassment, discrimination, or any misconduct of any kind against then-Senator Biden.

 05/02/2020 22:46
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:46
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s stop making excuses for Joe Biden.
Maybe we should stop making excuses for Tara Reade instead?
Perhaps a full investigation.

 05/02/2020 22:45
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:45
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s stop making excuses for Joe Biden.
Maybe we should stop making excuses for Tara Reade instead?
Perhaps a full investigation.

 05/02/2020 22:43
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:43
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s stop making excuses for Joe Biden.
Maybe we should stop making excuses for Tara Reade instead?

 05/02/2020 22:42
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:42
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread 
							Anonymous wrote:Let’s stop making excuses for Joe Biden.

 05/02/2020 22:42
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:42
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 05/02/2020 22:40
								    Subject: new Reade/Biden thread
								05/02/2020 22:40
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