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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-ukraine-buris/ukraine-agency-says-investigating-burisma-but-not-when-hunter-biden-was-on-board-idUSKBN1WC1LV?fbclid=IwAR2Xlpcd225wP_RvexLyvIMtSMP8f32oIO3BrQnteNbhQBzxTfQepenR4FU

Reality doesn't matter to pro-Trump supporters. They don't care about facts or dates or anything.

Oops

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-ukraine-buris/ukraine-agency-says-investigating-burisma-but-not-when-hunter-biden-was-on-board-idUSKBN1WC1LV?fbclid=IwAR2Xlpcd225wP_RvexLyvIMtSMP8f32oIO3BrQnteNbhQBzxTfQepenR4FU

Why does Trump keep tweeting the same thing over and over again. We get it - you want your cult to believe the phone call was "perfect." Why say it 800 times?

The denial is strong in this one.

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Anonymous wrote:Incorrect information in the whistleblower's complaint....

The complaint stated that Trump made a “specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike" -- a request that does not appear in the declassified transcript of the call released by the Trump administration on Tuesday. Trump mentioned CrowdStrike, but did not demand the server.

And according to the whistleblower complaint, by mid-May, U.S. diplomat Kurt Volker sought to "contain the damage" from Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's outreach to Ukraine.

But a July 19 text message conversation from Volker to Giuliani, provided to Fox News on Thursday, showed that Volker had in fact encouraged Giuliani to reach out to Ukraine -- even sending Giuliani a message reading, "connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very close to President Zelensky."

Additionally, the complaint said Trump "suggested that Mr. Zelensky might want to keep" his current prosecutor general, a claim not supported by the transcript.

CBS News reported late Thursday that the whistleblower complaint further inaccurately claimed that a State Department official was on the call with Zelensky.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-want-whistleblowers-sources-citing-apparent-white-house-leak-problem

This “error” assumes that we got the entire contents of the call. It wasn’t a transcript. And if you speak all of the words in what we got, it takes 11 minutes. The call was reported to be more than twice as long is that. Senator Feinstein has already demanded the entire call, so I guess we’ll see.

In other words, you’re going to speculate to dispel fact. LOL

With regard to the statement that Trump wanted to keep the current prosecutor general, that is what Rudy Giuliani wanted, but Trump couldn't articulate that because he doesn't know or can't remember the details, names, and timeline of his own collusion scheme. In the call he mixed up two different prosecutors.

Shokin was the guy that Biden, IMF, and everybody else wanted out, and was eventually removed by Parliament. Lutsenko was the next prosecutor general and he is the one that Rudy had already corrupted. For Rudy, Lutsenko smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch and promised to take up the Biden and Manafort investigations, but then Zelenskyy beat Lutsenko's boss Poroshenko in the election. Rudy tried to pressure Zelenskyy to keep his man Lutsenko. That is why Rudy was running around on TV and everywhere criticizing Zelenskyy as backsliding on corruption, and that is why Zelenskyy's guy Yermak wanted to meet with Rudy, which we now know the State Department helped to facilitate. Zelenskyy insisted on appointing his own prosecutor general to replace Lutsenko, but Yermak needed to convince Giuliani that they would still play ball.

Trump can't remember all of that. In the call summary, he says "I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved." And then he says I want you to to Mr. Giuliani about it. Shokin is the guy who was shut down, supposedly by Biden. Lutsenko is the one that Rudy had already turned. Trump mixes the details of the two into one rambling incoherent demand to talk to Rudy and let him tell you what you have to do.

I'm well-aware of the spin, proven by 400 pages of documents to be false. So your defense is 'Trump is senile'.

Read the call. Trump does not know the names or details of anybody or anything. Then look at all of Giuliani's actions and statements before and after. Trump could not tell Zelenskyy what he wanted because he doesn't know details, so his demand was for Zelenskyy to talk to Rudy and let Rudy tell him what he had to do.

I see delegation.

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Anonymous wrote:Incorrect information in the whistleblower's complaint....

The complaint stated that Trump made a “specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike" -- a request that does not appear in the declassified transcript of the call released by the Trump administration on Tuesday. Trump mentioned CrowdStrike, but did not demand the server.

And according to the whistleblower complaint, by mid-May, U.S. diplomat Kurt Volker sought to "contain the damage" from Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's outreach to Ukraine.

But a July 19 text message conversation from Volker to Giuliani, provided to Fox News on Thursday, showed that Volker had in fact encouraged Giuliani to reach out to Ukraine -- even sending Giuliani a message reading, "connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very close to President Zelensky."

Additionally, the complaint said Trump "suggested that Mr. Zelensky might want to keep" his current prosecutor general, a claim not supported by the transcript.

CBS News reported late Thursday that the whistleblower complaint further inaccurately claimed that a State Department official was on the call with Zelensky.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-want-whistleblowers-sources-citing-apparent-white-house-leak-problem

This “error” assumes that we got the entire contents of the call. It wasn’t a transcript. And if you speak all of the words in what we got, it takes 11 minutes. The call was reported to be more than twice as long is that. Senator Feinstein has already demanded the entire call, so I guess we’ll see.

In other words, you’re going to speculate to dispel fact. LOL

With regard to the statement that Trump wanted to keep the current prosecutor general, that is what Rudy Giuliani wanted, but Trump couldn't articulate that because he doesn't know or can't remember the details, names, and timeline of his own collusion scheme. In the call he mixed up two different prosecutors.

Shokin was the guy that Biden, IMF, and everybody else wanted out, and was eventually removed by Parliament. Lutsenko was the next prosecutor general and he is the one that Rudy had already corrupted. For Rudy, Lutsenko smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch and promised to take up the Biden and Manafort investigations, but then Zelenskyy beat Lutsenko's boss Poroshenko in the election. Rudy tried to pressure Zelenskyy to keep his man Lutsenko. That is why Rudy was running around on TV and everywhere criticizing Zelenskyy as backsliding on corruption, and that is why Zelenskyy's guy Yermak wanted to meet with Rudy, which we now know the State Department helped to facilitate. Zelenskyy insisted on appointing his own prosecutor general to replace Lutsenko, but Yermak needed to convince Giuliani that they would still play ball.

Trump can't remember all of that. In the call summary, he says "I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved." And then he says I want you to to Mr. Giuliani about it. Shokin is the guy who was shut down, supposedly by Biden. Lutsenko is the one that Rudy had already turned. Trump mixes the details of the two into one rambling incoherent demand to talk to Rudy and let him tell you what you have to do.

I'm well-aware of the spin, proven by 400 pages of documents to be false. So your defense is 'Trump is senile'.

Read the call. Trump does not know the names or details of anybody or anything. Then look at all of Giuliani's actions and statements before and after. Trump could not tell Zelenskyy what he wanted because he doesn't know details, so his demand was for Zelenskyy to talk to Rudy and let Rudy tell him what he had to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Incorrect information in the whistleblower's complaint....

The complaint stated that Trump made a “specific request that the Ukrainian leader locate and turn over servers used by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and examined by the U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike" -- a request that does not appear in the declassified transcript of the call released by the Trump administration on Tuesday. Trump mentioned CrowdStrike, but did not demand the server.

And according to the whistleblower complaint, by mid-May, U.S. diplomat Kurt Volker sought to "contain the damage" from Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's outreach to Ukraine.

But a July 19 text message conversation from Volker to Giuliani, provided to Fox News on Thursday, showed that Volker had in fact encouraged Giuliani to reach out to Ukraine -- even sending Giuliani a message reading, "connecting you here with Andrey Yermak, who is very close to President Zelensky."

Additionally, the complaint said Trump "suggested that Mr. Zelensky might want to keep" his current prosecutor general, a claim not supported by the transcript.

CBS News reported late Thursday that the whistleblower complaint further inaccurately claimed that a State Department official was on the call with Zelensky.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-want-whistleblowers-sources-citing-apparent-white-house-leak-problem

This “error” assumes that we got the entire contents of the call. It wasn’t a transcript. And if you speak all of the words in what we got, it takes 11 minutes. The call was reported to be more than twice as long is that. Senator Feinstein has already demanded the entire call, so I guess we’ll see.

In other words, you’re going to speculate to dispel fact. LOL

With regard to the statement that Trump wanted to keep the current prosecutor general, that is what Rudy Giuliani wanted, but Trump couldn't articulate that because he doesn't know or can't remember the details, names, and timeline of his own collusion scheme. In the call he mixed up two different prosecutors.

Shokin was the guy that Biden, IMF, and everybody else wanted out, and was eventually removed by Parliament. Lutsenko was the next prosecutor general and he is the one that Rudy had already corrupted. For Rudy, Lutsenko smeared Ambassador Yovanovitch and promised to take up the Biden and Manafort investigations, but then Zelenskyy beat Lutsenko's boss Poroshenko in the election. Rudy tried to pressure Zelenskyy to keep his man Lutsenko. That is why Rudy was running around on TV and everywhere criticizing Zelenskyy as backsliding on corruption, and that is why Zelenskyy's guy Yermak wanted to meet with Rudy, which we now know the State Department helped to facilitate. Zelenskyy insisted on appointing his own prosecutor general to replace Lutsenko, but Yermak needed to convince Giuliani that they would still play ball.

Trump can't remember all of that. In the call summary, he says "I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved." And then he says I want you to to Mr. Giuliani about it. Shokin is the guy who was shut down, supposedly by Biden. Lutsenko is the one that Rudy had already turned. Trump mixes the details of the two into one rambling incoherent demand to talk to Rudy and let him tell you what you have to do.

I am so glad the White House has now front-faced one of the most top secret/clandestine servers in the world.



Everything they do is for Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:The stuff in the whistleblower report was substantiated before it was brought out. Trump is done.

This is very easy for anyone to understand.

Also it is very easy for anyone to grasp that he threatened the life of the whistleblower and people who talked to him. He used the same kind of language to inflame his base before the El Paso shooting too.

Releasing the summary of the call was a huge mistake. Why anyone thought it was a "perfect call" no one can say. Only delusional.

I want you to be right but you seem overly confident to me. How many times since the campaign have we thought “that’s it he’s toast!”??

The facts are right, the only question is if the American public understands, simply and plainly, these actions, why they are wrong, illegal and un-American, and speak out to their Senators to hold the President and his Administration accountable.

That is backwards. The Senators should be speaking to their people, explaining this to their people. This is their area of expertise. Their responsibility under the Constitution.

Anonymous wrote:Personally, I'm not holding my breath. I'm not convinced the Senate is properly motivated to do much more.

"properly motivated"

SMH. This is what our government has come to -- screw the people, what's in it for me?

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Anonymous wrote:Twittler is losing his shit this morning.

He really doesn’t know what hyphen is.

“To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word little wrong. A small but never ending situation with CNN!”

Did he ask himself, "hm, what could I tweet that would make me look as petty AND uneducated as possible?"

Most people need time to get and then make sense of all the info presented yesterday. Impeachment is going to get more popular. The jump from last week already is significant.

Required reading for Trump supporters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/09/27/quick-guide-trumps-false-claims-about-ukraine-bidens/

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Anonymous wrote:The stuff in the whistleblower report was substantiated before it was brought out. Trump is done.

This is very easy for anyone to understand.

Also it is very easy for anyone to grasp that he threatened the life of the whistleblower and people who talked to him. He used the same kind of language to inflame his base before the El Paso shooting too.

Releasing the summary of the call was a huge mistake. Why anyone thought it was a "perfect call" no one can say. Only delusional.

I want you to be right but you seem overly confident to me. How many times since the campaign have we thought “that’s it he’s toast!”??

The facts are right, the only question is if the American public understands, simply and plainly, these actions, why they are wrong, illegal and un-American, and speak out to their Senators to hold the President and his Administration accountable.

Personally, I'm not holding my breath. I'm not convinced the Senate is properly motivated to do much more.