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Anonymous wrote:She set up 2 of our 3 dangerous chances just now.

LOL Rapinoe should not be on the field. Seriously she is not of the quality the rest of the team. Do you know much about soccer? Even the political correct 1/2 time show was talking about subs. It’s was Rapinoe they were talking about.

DP. Can you explain further? Perhaps I don’t understand soccer very well, but I’m having a hard time understanding how she said not as good as the rest when she saw one of their leading scorers.

Please if you think Rapinio should be on that field you know nothing about soccer. She is a liability out there and the team had to cover for her. She scored because of the teams around her. Again how did she score the goals? Did she create chances? No. Any time the ball went to her and she was pressured it was a turn over. Press is better. Dunn is better. Seriously talk to a few people who know soccer. You obviously know nothing about soccer.

That is why I asked you to explain it to me. I’m happy to hear the reasons behind your opinion if you care to share them.

She can not take player on 1v1, she turns the ball over when pressured(over 8 turn overs in this game in the final 1/3), she has no pace, she is lazy(does not track back or win the ball), she is out of position, her first touch is bad, the other field players must adjust to cover for her because she is out of position, only one defender is sent when she has the ball, her passes are off in terms of weight, touch and timing, etc. etc. She should not be on the field. Oh but she scored 6 goals( 3 penalty kicks, one lucky free kick). She should not be on the field.

And she scored 6 goals and 3 assists, set up 3 scoring chances in the final, vindicating the coach’s choice that she should be on the field. Your stupidity and bias don’t hold up against her contributions towards winning this World Cup. She was clutch, sorry. Cry about it, go yell it out in public through a megaphone. But she’s a back to back world champion.

LOL. My 12 year old DD and friends said pretty much the same as the pp. They were very disappointed to see her bad play receive awards. I guess you think the place kicker on the Patriots is the reason they win super bowl?

The thing is you guys think every thing you see is so insightful and no one else gets it. Yes we can see when she loses a ball in midfield. And yes at 34, after 3 ACL tears, and with maybe a hamstring issue, the work rate and pace is not what it was. The coach wanted her out there for what she brings in the big moments and she was right. She won the Golden Ball - guess it wasn't based on the every touch video. I know you have learned a lot from watching your little girl play travel soccer - maybe you don't know everything just yet.

+1. I also wonder if any of the people here saying Rapinoe doesn’t belong out there anymore have ever played a team sport in any meaningful way.

Its so funny there are so many defenders of Rapinoe. I guess you all have never watched or played soccer. Glad you turned in for the World Cup. She was bad. Here lets do a little game. Who would you the self appointed soccer experts remove from the starting lineup of Germany, France or England to make room for Rapinio? Should be an easy call.

Pure stupidity. It’s so funny how you hate her so much. I guess you know more than actual experts who awarded her the golden ball, and if you watched or knew anything about the game, you’d realize the importance of 6 goals and 3 assists in 6 games played. Bless you, and hopefully you can actually get informed about the game someday so you can dial down the diatribe and realize you’re no eminence.

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Anonymous wrote:She set up 2 of our 3 dangerous chances just now.

LOL Rapinoe should not be on the field. Seriously she is not of the quality the rest of the team. Do you know much about soccer? Even the political correct 1/2 time show was talking about subs. It’s was Rapinoe they were talking about.

DP. Can you explain further? Perhaps I don’t understand soccer very well, but I’m having a hard time understanding how she said not as good as the rest when she saw one of their leading scorers.

Please if you think Rapinio should be on that field you know nothing about soccer. She is a liability out there and the team had to cover for her. She scored because of the teams around her. Again how did she score the goals? Did she create chances? No. Any time the ball went to her and she was pressured it was a turn over. Press is better. Dunn is better. Seriously talk to a few people who know soccer. You obviously know nothing about soccer.

That is why I asked you to explain it to me. I’m happy to hear the reasons behind your opinion if you care to share them.

She can not take player on 1v1, she turns the ball over when pressured(over 8 turn overs in this game in the final 1/3), she has no pace, she is lazy(does not track back or win the ball), she is out of position, her first touch is bad, the other field players must adjust to cover for her because she is out of position, only one defender is sent when she has the ball, her passes are off in terms of weight, touch and timing, etc. etc. She should not be on the field. Oh but she scored 6 goals( 3 penalty kicks, one lucky free kick). She should not be on the field.

And she scored 6 goals and 3 assists, set up 3 scoring chances in the final, vindicating the coach’s choice that she should be on the field. Your stupidity and bias don’t hold up against her contributions towards winning this World Cup. She was clutch, sorry. Cry about it, go yell it out in public through a megaphone. But she’s a back to back world champion.

LOL. My 12 year old DD and friends said pretty much the same as the pp. They were very disappointed to see her bad play receive awards. I guess you think the place kicker on the Patriots is the reason they win super bowl?

The thing is you guys think every thing you see is so insightful and no one else gets it. Yes we can see when she loses a ball in midfield. And yes at 34, after 3 ACL tears, and with maybe a hamstring issue, the work rate and pace is not what it was. The coach wanted her out there for what she brings in the big moments and she was right. She won the Golden Ball - guess it wasn't based on the every touch video. I know you have learned a lot from watching your little girl play travel soccer - maybe you don't know everything just yet.

+1. I also wonder if any of the people here saying Rapinoe doesn’t belong out there anymore have ever played a team sport in any meaningful way.

Its so funny there are so many defenders of Rapinoe. I guess you all have never watched or played soccer. Glad you turned in for the World Cup. She was bad. Here lets do a little game. Who would you the self appointed soccer experts remove from the starting lineup of Germany, France or England to make room for Rapinio? Should be an easy call.

Happy to hear your or other's opinions about Rapinoe, but the following were the player ratings, for the games Rapinoe played, from the BBC's website, which one would think is a neutral source for USWNT player ratings, as well as a sports page and audience that presumably knows a thing or two about soccer. As you will see, Rapinoe was the 2nd highest rated US player for the knockout stages, and was the 4th and 3rd highest in the two Group stage games in which she played, Sweden and Thailand, respectively.

But maybe those Brits "have never watched or played soccer", to quote the PP.


USA/Netherlands: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48902406

Lavelle = 6.39
Rapinoe = 5.87
Morgan = 5.63
Heath = 5.62
Dunn = 5.56
Ertz = 5.38
Press = 5.28
Lloyd = 5.17
O'Hara = 5.10
Mewis = 4.97
Krieger = 4.96
Sauerbrunn = 4.95
Naeher = 4.93
Dahlkemper = 4.88


USA/England: N/A since Rapinoe did not play


USA/France: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48804829

Dunn = 7.10
Rapinoe = 7.07
Morgan = 6.47
Ertz = 6.21
Heath = 6.09
Naeher = 5.89
O'Hara = 5.89
Horan = 5.85
Sauerbrunn = 5.73
Lavelle = 5.73
Dahlkemper = 5.70
Mewis = 5.66
Lloyd = 5.66
Press = 5.66


USA/Spain: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48749499

Heath = 5.43
Rapinoe = 5.27
Morgan = 5.24
Lavelle = 5.08
Mewis = 4.98
Ertz = 4.91
Dunn = 4.87
O'Hara = 4.68
Lloyd = 4.61
Dahlkemper = 4.60
Sauerbrunn = 4.52
Naeher = 4.48
Horan = 4.23
Press = 4.12


USA/Sweden: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48708954

Heath = 7.26
O'Hara = 6.54
Horan = 6.34
Rapinoe = 6.26
Morgan = 6.23
Dunn = 6.14
Lavelle = 6.06
Press = 6.00
Mewis = 5.84
Lloyd = 5.75
Dahlkemper = 5.63
Pugh = 5.53
Sauerbrunn = 5.51
Naeher = 5.50


USA/Chile: N/A since Rapinoe did not play

USA/Thailand: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48603793

Morgan = 8.65
Mewis = 7.32
Rapinoe = 7.29
Heath = 7.12
Lavelle = 7.12
Horan = 7.06
Ertz = 6.76
O'Hara = 6.68
Lloyd = 6.61
Pugh = 6.59
Press = 6.58
Dunn = 6.57
Dahlkemper = 6.25
Naeher = 5.89

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Anonymous wrote:Was Rose Lavelle that good? In the end? Opinions?

Other than the France game she was pretty damn good. Okay vs France. Had some great moments of individual quality and combination play.

Hope Solo said Lavelle should have gotten the golden ball and that Lavelle was by far the best player in the tournament. She also said Dunn was the second best player in the WC and that Tobin Heath was also up there.

So why does all of the attention go to Morgan, Rapinoe and O'Hara?

Maybe because of the following for each in order: she is attractive with a suspect first touch but quick enough to compensate for it in many situations, she is divisive and angry, and she is a solid player? And, please can Hope Solo just go away?

Solo is not going anywhere, she was a WC analyst for BBC, which had a much better broadcast crew than FOX. I think she was a much better choice as an opinionated former soccer player, than Lalas and she is a lot more entertaining than the boring Heather O'Riley or Julie Foudy.

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Anonymous wrote:Was Rose Lavelle that good? In the end? Opinions?

Other than the France game she was pretty damn good. Okay vs France. Had some great moments of individual quality and combination play.

Hope Solo said Lavelle should have gotten the golden ball and that Lavelle was by far the best player in the tournament. She also said Dunn was the second best player in the WC and that Tobin Heath was also up there.

So why does all of the attention go to Morgan, Rapinoe and O'Hara?

Maybe because of the following for each in order: she is attractive with a suspect first touch but quick enough to compensate for it in many situations, she is divisive and angry, and she is a solid player? And, please can Hope Solo just go away?

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Anonymous wrote:The big question is how much fresh blood Ellis will add before the Olympics. Is she going to replace older players like Rapinoe (34), Lloyd (36), Krieger (34), etc with younger players? This team has 12 players that are 30 or older and quite a few of them play on the wing where speed is important.

Press and Pugh would be a good start. Lavelle might be able to play as in inverted winger which allows for Horan to start. Morgan and Heath should still be options.

Yes, to Pugh, but Press is 30 years old so she is not a young player. Perhaps she could replace Rapinoe, who is 34, for a year or two, but it is unlikely that she would be a starter for the next WC. As for Lavelle, she is our best midfielder so she should stay in the midfield. I think Julie Ertz may end up moving to center back to replace Sauerbrunn, who is 34.

Ertz is so good as the 6. I appreciate moving her back to CB might solve the current problem of 4 excellent MFs for only 3 spots (Ertz, Lavelle, Horan and Mewis), but I don't think Lavelle, Horan and Mewis have ever played the 6, and they almost certainly would not do as good a job as Ertz. Plus, Davidson is a future star and is almost certainly the replacement to Sauerbrunn at CB, maybe as early as the 2020 Olympics, but certainly by 2023 WC.

Then Mewis and Horan would have to battle it out for the last midfield spot. Lavelle has to play.

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Anonymous wrote:She set up 2 of our 3 dangerous chances just now.

LOL Rapinoe should not be on the field. Seriously she is not of the quality the rest of the team. Do you know much about soccer? Even the political correct 1/2 time show was talking about subs. It’s was Rapinoe they were talking about.

DP. Can you explain further? Perhaps I don’t understand soccer very well, but I’m having a hard time understanding how she said not as good as the rest when she saw one of their leading scorers.

Please if you think Rapinio should be on that field you know nothing about soccer. She is a liability out there and the team had to cover for her. She scored because of the teams around her. Again how did she score the goals? Did she create chances? No. Any time the ball went to her and she was pressured it was a turn over. Press is better. Dunn is better. Seriously talk to a few people who know soccer. You obviously know nothing about soccer.

That is why I asked you to explain it to me. I’m happy to hear the reasons behind your opinion if you care to share them.

She can not take player on 1v1, she turns the ball over when pressured(over 8 turn overs in this game in the final 1/3), she has no pace, she is lazy(does not track back or win the ball), she is out of position, her first touch is bad, the other field players must adjust to cover for her because she is out of position, only one defender is sent when she has the ball, her passes are off in terms of weight, touch and timing, etc. etc. She should not be on the field. Oh but she scored 6 goals( 3 penalty kicks, one lucky free kick). She should not be on the field.

And she scored 6 goals and 3 assists, set up 3 scoring chances in the final, vindicating the coach’s choice that she should be on the field. Your stupidity and bias don’t hold up against her contributions towards winning this World Cup. She was clutch, sorry. Cry about it, go yell it out in public through a megaphone. But she’s a back to back world champion.

LOL. My 12 year old DD and friends said pretty much the same as the pp. They were very disappointed to see her bad play receive awards. I guess you think the place kicker on the Patriots is the reason they win super bowl?

The thing is you guys think every thing you see is so insightful and no one else gets it. Yes we can see when she loses a ball in midfield. And yes at 34, after 3 ACL tears, and with maybe a hamstring issue, the work rate and pace is not what it was. The coach wanted her out there for what she brings in the big moments and she was right. She won the Golden Ball - guess it wasn't based on the every touch video. I know you have learned a lot from watching your little girl play travel soccer - maybe you don't know everything just yet.

+1. I also wonder if any of the people here saying Rapinoe doesn’t belong out there anymore have ever played a team sport in any meaningful way.

Its so funny there are so many defenders of Rapinoe. I guess you all have never watched or played soccer. Glad you turned in for the World Cup. She was bad. Here lets do a little game. Who would you the self appointed soccer experts remove from the starting lineup of Germany, France or England to make room for Rapinio? Should be an easy call.

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Anonymous wrote:The big question is how much fresh blood Ellis will add before the Olympics. Is she going to replace older players like Rapinoe (34), Lloyd (36), Krieger (34), etc with younger players? This team has 12 players that are 30 or older and quite a few of them play on the wing where speed is important.

Press and Pugh would be a good start. Lavelle might be able to play as in inverted winger which allows for Horan to start. Morgan and Heath should still be options.

Yes, to Pugh, but Press is 30 years old so she is not a young player. Perhaps she could replace Rapinoe, who is 34, for a year or two, but it is unlikely that she would be a starter for the next WC. As for Lavelle, she is our best midfielder so she should stay in the midfield. I think Julie Ertz may end up moving to center back to replace Sauerbrunn, who is 34.

Ertz is so good as the 6. I appreciate moving her back to CB might solve the current problem of 4 excellent MFs for only 3 spots (Ertz, Lavelle, Horan and Mewis), but I don't think Lavelle, Horan and Mewis have ever played the 6, and they almost certainly would not do as good a job as Ertz. Plus, Davidson is a future star and is almost certainly the replacement to Sauerbrunn at CB, maybe as early as the 2020 Olympics, but certainly by 2023 WC.

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Anonymous wrote:The big question is how much fresh blood Ellis will add before the Olympics. Is she going to replace older players like Rapinoe (34), Lloyd (36), Krieger (34), etc with younger players? This team has 12 players that are 30 or older and quite a few of them play on the wing where speed is important.

Press and Pugh would be a good start. Lavelle might be able to play as in inverted winger which allows for Horan to start. Morgan and Heath should still be options.

Yes, to Pugh, but Press is 30 years old so she is not a young player. Perhaps she could replace Rapinoe, who is 34, for a year or two, but it is unlikely that she would be a starter for the next WC. As for Lavelle, she is our best midfielder so she should stay in the midfield. I think Julie Ertz may end up moving to center back to replace Sauerbrunn, who is 34.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who doesn't follow soccer AT ALL, with the exception of this world cup, Rapinoe caught my attention. And I love her.

Like her or not, she's getting non-soccer fans like me to get energized about the sport. I started to watch because of her, but I stayed because of the rest of the team.

+1. I think she’s done a lot to bring casual fans into the game. We may not be obsessive die-yards, but we’ll watch games, buy our kids jerseys, etc.

Her finest moment was her response to the fake controversy over Morgan’s “tea sipping” gesture following the win over the U.K.; when asked about the British indignation, Rapinoe replied “wah wah wah.”

If USSF can not teach world class athletes with fully developed adult size brains how to play a more "sophisticated" style of play (as you say), what makes you think they can develop our youth via rule implementation?

At some point you need to realize, in the womens game, it's not the studen, its the teachers.

Anonymous wrote:Talent will never be in doubt but when do we acknowledge that our talent should also be matched with a more sophisticated style of play? When do we as a nation decide that we can do more and do it better tactically at younger ages? I love our athleticism but I would also love if we could begin to create an identity through a style of play in the future.

Why change what is working? Maybe it's the rest of the world who should change to try to match our dominance. You sound like oldtimers who hate three-pointers in basketball.

Anonymous wrote:The big question is how much fresh blood Ellis will add before the Olympics. Is she going to replace older players like Rapinoe (34), Lloyd (36), Krieger (34), etc with younger players? This team has 12 players that are 30 or older and quite a few of them play on the wing where speed is important.

Press and Pugh would be a good start. Lavelle might be able to play as in inverted winger which allows for Horan to start. Morgan and Heath should still be options.

The big question is how much fresh blood Ellis will add before the Olympics. Is she going to replace older players like Rapinoe (34), Lloyd (36), Krieger (34), etc with younger players? This team has 12 players that are 30 or older and quite a few of them play on the wing where speed is important.

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Anonymous wrote:Ertz was our best and most consistent player by far. Morgan and Rapinoe get a lot of the plaudits because they had 12 goals and 6 assists between the two. That’s 18 out of our 26 goals (69%).

No Lavelle is the best player. Watch what happens when she leaves the game during the US v England. The whole game changes.

Im talking about the whole tournament. Lavelle is more talented sure. Ertz was more important, she just plays an unheralded position.

Disagree Lavelle’s defense was very important. She was always there breaking up plays, making the correct decision and stopping dangerous plays. Add in her offense and the defense’s reaction to her with the ball. Watch the full field 11v11. You will not believe it.

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Anonymous wrote:Ertz was our best and most consistent player by far. Morgan and Rapinoe get a lot of the plaudits because they had 12 goals and 6 assists between the two. That’s 18 out of our 26 goals (69%).

No Lavelle is the best player. Watch what happens when she leaves the game during the US v England. The whole game changes.

Im talking about the whole tournament. Lavelle is more talented sure. Ertz was more important, she just plays an unheralded position.