Anonymous
06/15/2019 18:53
Subject: Re:Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:The entitlement is appalling. As a public school parent, I wonder if I too could sue my child’s school for big bucks for failing to “support” their college applications? This just betrays this family’s (and many families’) belief that 12 years of tuition buys you admission to a selective college. She didn’t even apply to any safeties. Sorry, that’s not how the wider world works.
Hi public school parent. The school sent fabricated transcripts to college. That was one point of contention.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 18:51
Subject: Re:Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entitlement is appalling. As a public school parent, I wonder if I too could sue my child’s school for big bucks for failing to “support” their college applications? This just betrays this family’s (and many families’) belief that 12 years of tuition buys you admission to a selective college. She didn’t even apply to any safeties. Sorry, that’s not how the wider world works.
She is a Sidwell lifer. $40Kx 12!
how much did you pay for your public school tuition?
Yes, public school parent, that support is what you pay for. Not guaranteed admission. But at the very least, accuracy in grade reporting, timely submission of materials. and fair treatment of the child wrt recs. That the parents where difficult and ignored the school’s advice seemed to make things worse for the student.
I don't believe complaining about the mistreatment of your child makes you difficult. It makes you a parent.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 18:27
Subject: Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Missed in all these arguments is the fact that Sidwell and maybe other schools decide who they will “push” for
Certain schools. This is really troubling. I naively thought a school would write a recommendation and calculate grades based on a. Everyone equal formula. This clearly did not happen and it should put all parents on notice that you really have to advocate. This would also be a question you ask as part of due diligence once your child is accepted to any hs. There is a reason this family is pushing this suit after the child has already graduated Penn. Maybe paying it forward.
Certain schools. This is really troubling. I naively thought a school would write a recommendation and calculate grades based on a. Everyone equal formula. This clearly did not happen and it should put all parents on notice that you really have to advocate. This would also be a question you ask as part of due diligence once your child is accepted to any hs. There is a reason this family is pushing this suit after the child has already graduated Penn. Maybe paying it forward.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 18:04
Subject: Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It could be argued and was. And it was rejected TWICE by the courts, so hey, let's take it to SCOTUS so it can get rejected a 3rd time.
Not even an ounce of merit to the case? Sidwell 100% correct?
No, but two courts ruled against the plaintiff and forced them to cover court costs and legal fees. That is pretty determinative, isn't it?
The legal system isn’t infallible, is it?
The fact she got into Penn after Sidwell suggests that like most things it may be more nuanced.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 18:00
Subject: Re:Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entitlement is appalling. As a public school parent, I wonder if I too could sue my child’s school for big bucks for failing to “support” their college applications? This just betrays this family’s (and many families’) belief that 12 years of tuition buys you admission to a selective college. She didn’t even apply to any safeties. Sorry, that’s not how the wider world works.
She is a Sidwell lifer. $40Kx 12!
how much did you pay for your public school tuition?
Yes, public school parent, that support is what you pay for. Not guaranteed admission. But at the very least, accuracy in grade reporting, timely submission of materials. and fair treatment of the child wrt recs. That the parents where difficult and ignored the school’s advice seemed to make things worse for the student.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 17:57
Subject: Re:Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:The entitlement is appalling. As a public school parent, I wonder if I too could sue my child’s school for big bucks for failing to “support” their college applications? This just betrays this family’s (and many families’) belief that 12 years of tuition buys you admission to a selective college. She didn’t even apply to any safeties. Sorry, that’s not how the wider world works.
No one believes this but you and the Plaintiff. Everyone else chooses private schools for their own reasons, almost none of them having to do with colleges.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 17:56
Subject: Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It could be argued and was. And it was rejected TWICE by the courts, so hey, let's take it to SCOTUS so it can get rejected a 3rd time.
Not even an ounce of merit to the case? Sidwell 100% correct?
No, but two courts ruled against the plaintiff and forced them to cover court costs and legal fees. That is pretty determinative, isn't it?
Anonymous
06/15/2019 17:41
Subject: Re:Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The entitlement is appalling. As a public school parent, I wonder if I too could sue my child’s school for big bucks for failing to “support” their college applications? This just betrays this family’s (and many families’) belief that 12 years of tuition buys you admission to a selective college. She didn’t even apply to any safeties. Sorry, that’s not how the wider world works.
She is a Sidwell lifer. $40Kx 12!
how much did you pay for your public school tuition?
Did they think they were buying a college placement with their tuition? Do you? Unfortunately, nobody told the colleges that. There is no legal way for schools like Sidwell to guarantee their buyers what some of them seem to think they are buying.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 17:33
Subject: Re:Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:The entitlement is appalling. As a public school parent, I wonder if I too could sue my child’s school for big bucks for failing to “support” their college applications? This just betrays this family’s (and many families’) belief that 12 years of tuition buys you admission to a selective college. She didn’t even apply to any safeties. Sorry, that’s not how the wider world works.
She is a Sidwell lifer. $40Kx 12!
how much did you pay for your public school tuition?
Anonymous
06/15/2019 17:19
Subject: Re:Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
The entitlement is appalling. As a public school parent, I wonder if I too could sue my child’s school for big bucks for failing to “support” their college applications? This just betrays this family’s (and many families’) belief that 12 years of tuition buys you admission to a selective college. She didn’t even apply to any safeties. Sorry, that’s not how the wider world works.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 12:23
Subject: Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:It could be argued and was. And it was rejected TWICE by the courts, so hey, let's take it to SCOTUS so it can get rejected a 3rd time.
Not even an ounce of merit to the case? Sidwell 100% correct?
Anonymous
06/15/2019 12:16
Subject: Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
It could be argued and was. And it was rejected TWICE by the courts, so hey, let's take it to SCOTUS so it can get rejected a 3rd time.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 09:57
Subject: Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All these folks sounding so indignant about how the family reacted would probably work the system if their kid were shut out.
Most parents would have accepted school advice not to have their kid apply to all Ivys and reach schools like Duke. Stupid and entitled doesn’t make it the school’s fault. And it sure as hell doesn’t amount to a federal civil rights case!
+1 Seems like the parents were idiots to sign off on a slate of highly selective schools and then were shocked when their kid didn't get in.
She applied on her own after a year and got in. Ooops! She clearly is Ivy material. She is now an Ivy graduate.
Because college addmission becomes very competitive, only a small fraction of QUANTIFIED candidates can be admitted to the top universities. The selection process is more random and no student, even though s/he is quantified, is guaranteed except those with extraordinary academic profiles, including national level awards like math/physics/chemistry olympiads, debating, Intel etc. NMSF is definitely not good enough. Also, National Achievement semi finalist is not NMSF and the cutoff of NASF is lower than NMSF. The whole debate is not about if the girl was quantified for ivies but if her profile makes her admission guaranteed. Apparently her parents thought so and thus blamed SIdwell.
Read the previous posters and see how they disparage the girl’s credentials. Sidwell definitely did not support the girl’s applications and it could be argued they went as far as sabotaging her. That is what the title should say. Not how she felt entitled and all...
Anonymous
06/15/2019 09:25
Subject: Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All these folks sounding so indignant about how the family reacted would probably work the system if their kid were shut out.
Most parents would have accepted school advice not to have their kid apply to all Ivys and reach schools like Duke. Stupid and entitled doesn’t make it the school’s fault. And it sure as hell doesn’t amount to a federal civil rights case!
+1 Seems like the parents were idiots to sign off on a slate of highly selective schools and then were shocked when their kid didn't get in.
She applied on her own after a year and got in. Ooops! She clearly is Ivy material. She is now an Ivy graduate.
Because college addmission becomes very competitive, only a small fraction of QUANTIFIED candidates can be admitted to the top universities. The selection process is more random and no student, even though s/he is quantified, is guaranteed except those with extraordinary academic profiles, including national level awards like math/physics/chemistry olympiads, debating, Intel etc. NMSF is definitely not good enough. Also, National Achievement semi finalist is not NMSF and the cutoff of NASF is lower than NMSF. The whole debate is not about if the girl was quantified for ivies but if her profile makes her admission guaranteed. Apparently her parents thought so and thus blamed SIdwell.
Anonymous
06/15/2019 09:22
Subject: Sidwell Paid a family $50K and agree to change grades??????????
Anonymous wrote:If URM affirmative action didn’t exist the girl wouldn’t even have been in the conversation for the colleges she applied to. And even then, it was a real stretch at nearly all of them.
Oh good the angry Sidwell booster is back.