Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:55
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: Federal law prohibits the use of taxpayer dollars to provide medical coverage to undocumented individuals. That's the law.
So the right wing tripe is just that.
I would rather illegals pay into the healthcare system instead of using services for free. More $$ into the system means lower rates for everyone.
They do pay in but get no services in return.
Untrue. They are using ER and hospital services. Then the hospitals write them off as uninsured and the feds reimburse.
States provide emergency medical services (including labor/delivery) through a program sometimes called “Emergency Medicaid.” Under this, the federal government (via Medicaid) reimburses hospitals for emergency services for people who meet all other Medicaid eligibility criteria except citizenship. Many immigrant patients will receive care, but then be unable to pay. Hospitals then “write off” such costs. Some of that burden is offset through Disproportionate Share Hospital payments, which are federal/state funds to hospitals that serve low-income and uninsured patients.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:53
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.
Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.
Who are you people??? This is not going to happen???
If it's not going to happen then why are OMB, OPM, and agencies all preparing for it? Again, if the government shuts down that clock will start ticking, and 60 days later 92+ percent of the federal workforce will be gone, unless something changes.
Who are you people who are absolutely certain it won't happen? You're going to have to be a White House or Senate Staffer with inside knowledge to be making a declaration like that with any certainty.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:48
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.
Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.
There is no furlough. They are firing.
Reality is Democrats will shut down for a little while for show, but Schumer will arrange for some safe D senators to vote to pass the budget, covering for people in tough seats. Most likely the retiring Senators like Shaheen.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:48
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
a "shutdown" that for me seems like it wont have any impact. my entire office is excepted. all the functions I deal with keep on going. D's are giving T a giant free chainsaw to cut anything not deemed 'essential'. he's gonna let his red states get whatever and lock down the money to the 'blue' ones.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:29
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.
Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.
Who are you people??? This is not going to happen???
It is a threat thrown out by the White House if there's a shutdown.
BUT
What you actually need to know is that if the budget passes, there are cuts planned to most federal agencies that entail mass layoffs. The State Department's budget is going to be cut 84%. This means a lot of people will be let go.
So whether or not there is a shutdown, it's going to be painful for a lot of people.
The benefit of a shutdown, for the Democrats, is that the blame for all this is going to be squarely laid on the Republicans.
So you
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:26
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to watch OMB Director Voight to do his magic. We maybe able to cut the monthly deficit to zero or positive by November
You could get rid of every civilian federal employee outside of social security, Medicare/Medicaid, and the Treasury department to handle the debt and you world STILL have a deficit. You can't balance the budget without cutting Medicare/Medicaid/social security or by raising revenue.
Exactly.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:24
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.
Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.
Who are you people??? This is not going to happen???
This is the same thing people said in 2024 when people brought up Trump’s plans to deploy the military in American cities.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:23
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.
Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.
Who are you people??? This is not going to happen???
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:10
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.
Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.
his goal was to become president and destroy the country from within and let china and russia pick up the pieces. so far, I would say he has been successful in that mission
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:10
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
President Trump in the Oval Office said a government shutdown gives his administration the power to cut benefit programs, which include Social Security and Medicare.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 13:04
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Trump's OMB (Vought) and OPM are apparently gearing up to push a plan for federal agencies to RIF every federal employee who isn't excepted from shutdown furlough and who isn't explicitly covered by H.R.1 (which didn't fund most agencies, and which is why we are steamrolling toward a shutdown). What this means is that over 92% of federal employees will be fired if the shutdown lasts longer than 60 days.
Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.
Tell me, what would you think if a new CEO took over your own company and a few months in fired 92% of everyone there, with minimal regard to what the function of the fired people actually was? How do you think that company would survive? It wouldn't. You'd lose most of your technical expertise, organizational and institutional knowledge and history, relationships with customers and other organizations, everything would collapse and the company would implode. Anyone who thinks it would be a "good thing" is completely clueless about how things work.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 12:58
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
The expiration of these subsidies would significantly impact both individuals relying on ACA coverage and the healthcare system as a whole.
Number of People Affected -
Total Loss of Coverage: Over 7 million people are projected to lose subsidized health coverage if the Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits expire.
Uninsured Individuals: Nearly 5 million of those will become completely uninsured.
Financial Implications -
Healthcare Providers: Hospitals and healthcare providers could face a loss of more than $32 billion in revenue due to reduced patient services and increased uncompensated care.
Unpaid Medical Bills: An additional $7.7 billion in unpaid medical bills is expected from uninsured patients.
Premium Increases -
Rising Costs: Average health insurance premiums could increase by approximately 75% for millions of Americans if the subsidies are not renewed.
Number of People Affected -
Total Loss of Coverage: Over 7 million people are projected to lose subsidized health coverage if the Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits expire.
Uninsured Individuals: Nearly 5 million of those will become completely uninsured.
Financial Implications -
Healthcare Providers: Hospitals and healthcare providers could face a loss of more than $32 billion in revenue due to reduced patient services and increased uncompensated care.
Unpaid Medical Bills: An additional $7.7 billion in unpaid medical bills is expected from uninsured patients.
Premium Increases -
Rising Costs: Average health insurance premiums could increase by approximately 75% for millions of Americans if the subsidies are not renewed.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 12:54
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Nearly 100,000 federal workers have resigned this morning making it the largest resignation in history.
Thank you potus for being a good steward of fiscal discipline.
Why is it being a good steward to drive away the people who carry out congressional mandates? That's the opposite of good stewardship.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 12:49
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are they including aca subsidies it has nothing to do with the shutdown it should only be topics related to the budget debate of the shutdown . Dems off target again risking their own people.
They need to address this before open enrollment begins on November 1. There's no other way to bring Republicans to the table.
Not really. They can open that debate up next week separately
They can...but they won't. Congress could have addressed it at any point this year and yet...they didn't.
Anonymous
09/30/2025 12:48
Subject: Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Only 16 hours until the Schumer Shutdown. Yes its Schumers fault as he is preventing 7 democrat senators for voting for cloture on the CR
Polling says most people will be blaming the White House or congressional Republicans for this shutdown.
“Polling”
You still read that swill?
Oh, do you have any contrary evidence to offer? Otherwise all you’ve got are your feelings.
It’s seems you have forgotten how wrong the polling was in 2024 and 2016.
Polling used to be more accurate, now it’s just a coping mechanism.
Were the polls off by 17 points? That’s how much more people will blame Republicans, according to Morning Consult. Their presidential polling predicted a 2 point Harris victory, which was within the margin of error for the actual result of Trump 49.8%, Harris 48.3%. Doesn’t seem like this is even remotely comparable.
Again, if you have actual evidence to the contrary, please share it. But all I’m hearing from you are angry feelings. It’s nice that you want Republicans not to be blamed, but that won’t make it true.
Sadly the PP is right about polls. The billionaire funded media will blame Democrats. We’re not living in reality, it’s feels.
However, if Dems hold, they will earn good will from their voters.
I’m a Dem and think their demands are inadequate but I guess they are trying?🤷♀️🤷
The poll I saw around 34% blame R's, 23% blame D's, and 34% blame both.
"both sides" is what has gotten us into the mess. I don't see any upside for the D's in focusing on Obamacare subsidies.