Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:15     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where have AIDS and tuberculosis been eradicated, 18:00?


I guess you're not familiar with the concept of harm reduction.


PP doesn't think we should have seatbelts or airbags in cars either because they haven't reduced car crash deaths by 100%. Rip 'em out! Duhhhh....
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:14     Subject: Closing USAID

I hope the people here simping for Musk are at least getting paid well by him. Hate to think you're being this stupid for free...
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:13     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:Curing AIDS was never their goal. It’s a cash cow. Just ask Tony.


Pretty sure that almost any doctor that is working in public health could be making so much money doling out ozempic and giving Brazilian butt lifts most people who choose to help The most poor and marginalized fight diseases that require extremely expensive drugs.

And what are you doing to make the world a better place Little keyboard warrior?
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:12     Subject: Re:Closing USAID

Bombshell:

Now it's coming out that the REAL reason Elon Musk is trying to kill USAID is because USAID was investigating corruption involving Musk-owned companies and foreign equipment sales.



The USAID pages talking about it were some of the first to get taken down. Musk is trying to hide his corruption and to exact revenge on those who were about to expose it.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:09     Subject: Closing USAID

Curing AIDS was never their goal. It’s a cash cow. Just ask Tony.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:07     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:Where have AIDS and tuberculosis been eradicated, 18:00?


I guess you're not familiar with the concept of harm reduction.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:06     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our good friends worked for USAID - never knew it as they were contractors and I just assumed NGO, state department or foreign service.

Anyway; they got fired - it totally sucks.

But, really; if I have known these people for years but never even heard of the federal agency they were contractors for why is everyone freaking out?

Foreign aid will always be a part of US national security- and I am sure it will resume…but in the scheme of things this is not really an issue.

Potentially firing thousands of FBI agents seems a lot more serious.


Your good friends just got fired, but because they never told you the acronym of their funding source your response is “meh, guess it didn’t matter anyway.”

I am one of those people losing their jobs due to the foreign aid freeze. My work saved babies. Now it is gone and babies will die. Is that enough for you to feel more than “meh” for them? How about for me?

Friend my a$$.


DP. It is always terrible when friends are laid off. But this is not a thing that only affects federal workers! On the contrary, many of my private sector friends have been laid off multiple times in recent years. It is stressful and awful.


Exactly.


If you think this is primarily about layoffs, you're mistaken. This is about the shredding of the constitution and our governmental norms. Signed, someone who was laid off in 2009 and isn't an idiot.


Your claim of indignation for " violation of the US Constitution and norms" sounds awfully sanctimonious given that everyone down at USAID in the DC offices CHOSE to keep collecting a paycheck all during 2023/2024 while Blinken violated the Leahy law by continuing to send weapons to Israel while they sniper shot toddlers, starved 100,000's of children and dropped mega bombs on women and children cowering in tent villages....

Yes, that was you ... cashing your pay check every two weeks for 24 months, while your employer knew that Israel was deliberately using starvation as a weapon of war and that continuing to send the weapons violated US law - not to mention the " humanitarian beliefs and values" you now claim Trump/ Mush are attacking by shutting down USAID.

You continued to go to work every day al smug in your Virtue signaling - you went along to get along and now you want want people to defend your " right " to that continued gravy train.

Many Dept of State and USAIS employees are 2nd/ 3rd generation US Gov't Brats/ Nepo babies and are exactly why Americas resources have been sent overseas for decades- it's your culture--- well it's up

If you want to help disadvantaged people get ahead, look for a teaching job in SE DC


Once you guys get rid of the department of education, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of teachers out of a job and funding to low income schools will be cut
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:05     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:Where have AIDS and tuberculosis been eradicated, 18:00?


many parts of the world, actually.

Though making a big comeback in Kansas thank to the MAGAs.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:04     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our good friends worked for USAID - never knew it as they were contractors and I just assumed NGO, state department or foreign service.

Anyway; they got fired - it totally sucks.

But, really; if I have known these people for years but never even heard of the federal agency they were contractors for why is everyone freaking out?

Foreign aid will always be a part of US national security- and I am sure it will resume…but in the scheme of things this is not really an issue.

Potentially firing thousands of FBI agents seems a lot more serious.


Your good friends just got fired, but because they never told you the acronym of their funding source your response is “meh, guess it didn’t matter anyway.”

I am one of those people losing their jobs due to the foreign aid freeze. My work saved babies. Now it is gone and babies will die. Is that enough for you to feel more than “meh” for them? How about for me?

Friend my a$$.


DP. It is always terrible when friends are laid off. But this is not a thing that only affects federal workers! On the contrary, many of my private sector friends have been laid off multiple times in recent years. It is stressful and awful.


Exactly.


If you think this is primarily about layoffs, you're mistaken. This is about the shredding of the constitution and our governmental norms. Signed, someone who was laid off in 2009 and isn't an idiot.


Your claim of indignation for " violation of the US Constitution and norms" sounds awfully sanctimonious given that everyone down at USAID in the DC offices CHOSE to keep collecting a paycheck all during 2023/2024 while Blinken violated the Leahy law by continuing to send weapons to Israel while they sniper shot toddlers, starved 100,000's of children and dropped mega bombs on women and children cowering in tent villages....

Yes, that was you ... cashing your pay check every two weeks for 24 months, while your employer knew that Israel was deliberately using starvation as a weapon of war and that continuing to send the weapons violated US law - not to mention the " humanitarian beliefs and values" you now claim Trump/ Mush are attacking by shutting down USAID.

You continued to go to work every day al smug in your Virtue signaling - you went along to get along and now you want want people to defend your " right " to that continued gravy train.

Many Dept of State and USAIS employees are 2nd/ 3rd generation US Gov't Brats/ Nepo babies and are exactly why Americas resources have been sent overseas for decades- it's your culture--- well it's up

If you want to help disadvantaged people get ahead, look for a teaching job in SE DC


Trump and Musk are textbook Nepo babies. Do you even know what you are talking about?
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:03     Subject: Closing USAID

Where have AIDS and tuberculosis been eradicated, 18:00?
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 18:00     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:The US is not the world's caretaker. Some/All of these countries need to figure out how to feed their own people.


My friend worked as a contractor for UDAiD a lot in eradicating diseases like tuberculosis and AIDS, which guess what affect everybody who do not have easy access to healthcare. Funny how the all lives matter. People don't actually want to see a world where wealthy countries give money to help poor countries thrive
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 17:58     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our good friends worked for USAID - never knew it as they were contractors and I just assumed NGO, state department or foreign service.

Anyway; they got fired - it totally sucks.

But, really; if I have known these people for years but never even heard of the federal agency they were contractors for why is everyone freaking out?

Foreign aid will always be a part of US national security- and I am sure it will resume…but in the scheme of things this is not really an issue.

Potentially firing thousands of FBI agents seems a lot more serious.


Your good friends just got fired, but because they never told you the acronym of their funding source your response is “meh, guess it didn’t matter anyway.”

I am one of those people losing their jobs due to the foreign aid freeze. My work saved babies. Now it is gone and babies will die. Is that enough for you to feel more than “meh” for them? How about for me?

Friend my a$$.


DP. It is always terrible when friends are laid off. But this is not a thing that only affects federal workers! On the contrary, many of my private sector friends have been laid off multiple times in recent years. It is stressful and awful.


Exactly.


If you think this is primarily about layoffs, you're mistaken. This is about the shredding of the constitution and our governmental norms. Signed, someone who was laid off in 2009 and isn't an idiot.


Your claim of indignation for " violation of the US Constitution and norms" sounds awfully sanctimonious given that everyone down at USAID in the DC offices CHOSE to keep collecting a paycheck all during 2023/2024 while Blinken violated the Leahy law by continuing to send weapons to Israel while they sniper shot toddlers, starved 100,000's of children and dropped mega bombs on women and children cowering in tent villages....

Yes, that was you ... cashing your pay check every two weeks for 24 months, while your employer knew that Israel was deliberately using starvation as a weapon of war and that continuing to send the weapons violated US law - not to mention the " humanitarian beliefs and values" you now claim Trump/ Mush are attacking by shutting down USAID.

You continued to go to work every day al smug in your Virtue signaling - you went along to get along and now you want want people to defend your " right " to that continued gravy train.

Many Dept of State and USAIS employees are 2nd/ 3rd generation US Gov't Brats/ Nepo babies and are exactly why Americas resources have been sent overseas for decades- it's your culture--- well it's up

If you want to help disadvantaged people get ahead, look for a teaching job in SE DC
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 17:54     Subject: Closing USAID

Wow, forcing thousands of US families to uproot and evacuate from their USAID posts on 3 days notice is ridiculous.

And guess who will come in to fill the void?

China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, iran...
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 17:34     Subject: Closing USAID

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:USAID is some much cheaper vs fighting wars.


why would we need to fight wars? we have “shuttle diplomacy” and “diplomacy in action” @ State. And what happened to your “end/endless wars” bumper sticker in support of Cindy Sheehan et al.?


I know! I was somewhat skeptical that the parties have realigned but watching democrats validate GWB and Karl Rove’s worldview really has blown my mind.


You are pretty stupid. Without USAID there will be more failed states and chaos. Then we can all watch as Trump continues to bombing and use military force at the cost of hundreds of billions like he is doing in Somalia right now. Every strike in Somalia cost north of 150 million.

You want to save money and stabilize a good chunk of the world? Kill have money and aid for Israel.


So, when does it stop? Not my problem if they are fighting between each other and corruption.


No man, or country, is an island. We are securing US peace by improving the state of other countries, thereby reducing instability in those other countries which leads to violence. That's the idea - but you seem to think that shutting down USAID is a better idea. That all the violence would stay "over there" and never come here.


Maybe, but we've tried it that way for a long time and it's clearly not working. Actually some may argue that it's even worse and we have been getting even more and more migrants from other countries that are unstable/violence.


Of course it has worked. Were you born yesterday?
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2025 16:43     Subject: Closing USAID