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Why does Holie keep doing pap strolls with her children at this grocery store? She is also putting out PR about having her friends stay at her house during the wild fires. She seems to be desperately campaigning for an Oscar, but she has been snubbed by her peers for nominations at the major awards.

This says nothing good about you.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

How is fighting going to help?

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

Excuses

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

He fought for years. At some point, forcing them to see him will only make things worse. Now he’s at a point where he has to wait for them to come to come.

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Anonymous wrote:From the beginning, Angelina Jolie has been a master act at using her kids to shape her public image. Look back and see how she deflected bad press about her Billy bob breakup with an arranged photo depicting her as a heroic single mom.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/media/21angelina.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nk4.UxBN.zNuy1I9k5U7L&smid=url-share

I lived in ny when her kids were at the lycee. A teacher there told me that the school asked her(along with Madonna) to refrain from using the main school entrance for the safety and privacy of her own kids as well as the other students and parents. Madonna agreed. Angelina refused. She needed those school pickup/dropoff photos for her image.

I would imagine Brad Pitt has similarly skilled PR people, but Angelina seems particularly gifted in this. I’m sure she is studied as a case study for celeb pr agents. I have no idea about who is more at fault, but I would guess they are both egotistical windbags.

She uses her kids for her image. When she called the paparazzi in Kenya to confirm her and Brad’s relationship, she was doting on Maddox and not even touching Brad. She wanted to send the message “we’re a family, not an adulterous relationship.” She then adopted Zahara and highly publicized the adoption to deflect bad publicity. “I’m a humanitarian who adopts needy children, not a homewrecker.” She sold all of her children’s baby photos to the tabloids. I don’t think there is a single celebrity who uses their children for their image like Angelina does. To this day, she walks the red carpet with them, includes them in her photo shoots, etc.

I am really to think that the women on this forum are the most miserable, ugly, jealous women around. Why all the hate for the woman and absolutely none for the man. Brad doesn't want any of you. Brad had input in the selling of the baby pictures and actually talked about it with several publications, but you hags only talk about Angelina making the decision. Brad said "it seems strange that they decided to sell the pictures, but there was a bounty on the kids' heads to get the pictures. It was better for the parents, ie, Brad[i][u] and Angelina to do something good. Therefore, they hired a private photographer to take the pictures and used the money on charities." Brad nor Angelina used the money for personal use but to help others in charities.
https://people.com/parents/brad-pitt-larry/

I really think some of you have forgotten how terrible she was, particularly to other women in hollywood while pursuing only men in relationships. She also looked and acted like a character out of Natural Born Killers for a long while before she suddenly became Saint Angelina.

So it’s her fault that Billy Bob and Brad cheated on their long term girlfriends and wife?

Please. This woman may not be perfect, but judging from the way she interacts with her adult kids, she’s been a good mom.

And having been in an abusive relationship with a very “charming” man, Brad gives me the ick. He’s not a good guy and he knows it. Hence he’s stayed back from more investigation of his family life.

Angelina knowingly began relationships with an engaged man and married man. A good person doesn’t do that. She’s a person of very low moral character. She didn’t seem to care how much she hurt both Laura Dern and Jennifer Aniston. She seemed to revel in flaunting the affairs in their faces.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah people love to blame mothers for alienation- instead of blaming the men who have failed their children.

She fought him in court to deny him any custody of the children. She never tried to come to an amicable custody arrangement. She did engage in alienation and using the children to hurt him by denying him custody. I don’t see how it benefits the children to not have their father in their lives. She is a selfish mother.

She wanted visitations not to have zero custody. He's the alcoholic father who abused then. It's not like they broke up for a nonsensical reason

What is this abuse talk about? Is this about the plane incident or more stuff?

What away to blow off abuse. You must be an abuser yourself.

It's he said/she said. There WERE investigations and the allegations were dismissed. There is no clear evidence beyond the one accusation he abused them. She neglected them by leaving them in the care of multiple nannies and failing to get them a proper education.

The homeschool programs they are involved in are still proper education that's credited by the state. You're weirdo.

Some of the kids ended up attending private schools in LA, the middle three I think. So Brad did win on that point. Not sure if the twins are home schooled.

Oh and an acquaintance works at one of the schools and mentioned Brad coming in for a tour. The school and its focus suggested this was for Shiloh, but he wasn't allowed to say. Brad was not an uninvolved father who didn't care. But once the kids were alienated, what exactly do you think he should have done? He has visitation for the twins and uses it, per the legal document filed. The others aged out, as Angelina hoped.

His team said has repeatedly said he doesn't see those kids which is quite obvious by his lack of support for Vivienne. He should've ased for another modification and should've made them their priority.

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Why does Holie keep doing pap strolls with her children at this grocery store? She is also putting out PR about having her friends stay at her house during the wild fires. She seems to be desperately campaigning for an Oscar, but she has been snubbed by her peers for nominations at the major awards.

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Anonymous wrote:From the beginning, Angelina Jolie has been a master act at using her kids to shape her public image. Look back and see how she deflected bad press about her Billy bob breakup with an arranged photo depicting her as a heroic single mom.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/media/21angelina.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nk4.UxBN.zNuy1I9k5U7L&smid=url-share

I lived in ny when her kids were at the lycee. A teacher there told me that the school asked her(along with Madonna) to refrain from using the main school entrance for the safety and privacy of her own kids as well as the other students and parents. Madonna agreed. Angelina refused. She needed those school pickup/dropoff photos for her image.

I would imagine Brad Pitt has similarly skilled PR people, but Angelina seems particularly gifted in this. I’m sure she is studied as a case study for celeb pr agents. I have no idea about who is more at fault, but I would guess they are both egotistical windbags.

She uses her kids for her image. When she called the paparazzi in Kenya to confirm her and Brad’s relationship, she was doting on Maddox and not even touching Brad. She wanted to send the message “we’re a family, not an adulterous relationship.” She then adopted Zahara and highly publicized the adoption to deflect bad publicity. “I’m a humanitarian who adopts needy children, not a homewrecker.” She sold all of her children’s baby photos to the tabloids. I don’t think there is a single celebrity who uses their children for their image like Angelina does. To this day, she walks the red carpet with them, includes them in her photo shoots, etc.

I am really to think that the women on this forum are the most miserable, ugly, jealous women around. Why all the hate for the woman and absolutely none for the man. Brad doesn't want any of you. Brad had input in the selling of the baby pictures and actually talked about it with several publications, but you hags only talk about Angelina making the decision. Brad said "it seems strange that they decided to sell the pictures, but there was a bounty on the kids' heads to get the pictures. It was better for the parents, ie, Brad[i][u] and Angelina to do something good. Therefore, they hired a private photographer to take the pictures and used the money on charities." Brad nor Angelina used the money for personal use but to help others in charities.
https://people.com/parents/brad-pitt-larry/

I really think some of you have forgotten how terrible she was, particularly to other women in hollywood while pursuing only men in relationships. She also looked and acted like a character out of Natural Born Killers for a long while before she suddenly became Saint Angelina.

So it’s her fault that Billy Bob and Brad cheated on their long term girlfriends and wife?

Please. This woman may not be perfect, but judging from the way she interacts with her adult kids, she’s been a good mom.

And having been in an abusive relationship with a very “charming” man, Brad gives me the ick. He’s not a good guy and he knows it. Hence he’s stayed back from more investigation of his family life.

Angelina knowingly began relationships with an engaged man and married man. A good person doesn’t do that. She’s a person of very low moral character. She didn’t seem to care how much she hurt both Laura Dern and Jennifer Aniston. She seemed to revel in flaunting the affairs in their faces.

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Anonymous wrote:What was the finally sticking point to finalize the divorce?

she got the upper edge when the judge granted her request for all of his communications. The finalization happened around the deadline h needed to give it to her. She hasn't filed her answer to the winery case either that was due last month. I assume it's on hold while they wrap it up.

They exchanged financial disclosures early last year. Their lawyers have been working on the divorce for a while. The winery case has nothing to do with the divorce. Brad has filed motions for Angelina’s communications regarding the sale. He is involved in several other lawsuits concerning the winery and I don’t see him dropping the case against Angelina unless those other cases are also resolved. Again, Angelina caused the winery case by selling to a third party she knew Brad didn’t want as a business partner. She is not a victim of the lawsuit, she is the aggressor.

She was granted his communications surrounding the abuse, plane incident including communications to the FBI agent with his manager, and offer of proof she filed in the the divorce case. It has everything to do with the divorce and she could've used them in that case. It is not a coincidence that the divorce was finalized weeks after she won her judgement and she hasn't filed her answer yet. Stop being naive. He got spooked.

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Anonymous wrote:What was the finally sticking point to finalize the divorce?

she got the upper edge when the judge granted her request for all of his communications. The finalization happened around the deadline h needed to give it to her. She hasn't filed her answer to the winery case either that was due last month. I assume it's on hold while they wrap it up.

They exchanged financial disclosures early last year. Their lawyers have been working on the divorce for a while. The winery case has nothing to do with the divorce. Brad has filed motions for Angelina’s communications regarding the sale. He is involved in several other lawsuits concerning the winery and I don’t see him dropping the case against Angelina unless those other cases are also resolved. Again, Angelina caused the winery case by selling to a third party she knew Brad didn’t want as a business partner. She is not a victim of the lawsuit, she is the aggressor.

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Anonymous wrote:What was the finally sticking point to finalize the divorce?

she got the upper edge when the judge granted her request for all of his communications. The finalization happened around the deadline h needed to give it to her. She hasn't filed her answer to the winery case either that was due last month. I assume it's on hold while they wrap it up.

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Anonymous wrote:From the beginning, Angelina Jolie has been a master act at using her kids to shape her public image. Look back and see how she deflected bad press about her Billy bob breakup with an arranged photo depicting her as a heroic single mom.

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/business/media/21angelina.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nk4.UxBN.zNuy1I9k5U7L&smid=url-share

I lived in ny when her kids were at the lycee. A teacher there told me that the school asked her(along with Madonna) to refrain from using the main school entrance for the safety and privacy of her own kids as well as the other students and parents. Madonna agreed. Angelina refused. She needed those school pickup/dropoff photos for her image.

I would imagine Brad Pitt has similarly skilled PR people, but Angelina seems particularly gifted in this. I’m sure she is studied as a case study for celeb pr agents. I have no idea about who is more at fault, but I would guess they are both egotistical windbags.

She uses her kids for her image. When she called the paparazzi in Kenya to confirm her and Brad’s relationship, she was doting on Maddox and not even touching Brad. She wanted to send the message “we’re a family, not an adulterous relationship.” She then adopted Zahara and highly publicized the adoption to deflect bad publicity. “I’m a humanitarian who adopts needy children, not a homewrecker.” She sold all of her children’s baby photos to the tabloids. I don’t think there is a single celebrity who uses their children for their image like Angelina does. To this day, she walks the red carpet with them, includes them in her photo shoots, etc.

I am really to think that the women on this forum are the most miserable, ugly, jealous women around. Why all the hate for the woman and absolutely none for the man. Brad doesn't want any of you. Brad had input in the selling of the baby pictures and actually talked about it with several publications, but you hags only talk about Angelina making the decision. Brad said "it seems strange that they decided to sell the pictures, but there was a bounty on the kids' heads to get the pictures. It was better for the parents, ie, Brad[i][u] and Angelina to do something good. Therefore, they hired a private photographer to take the pictures and used the money on charities." Brad nor Angelina used the money for personal use but to help others in charities.
https://people.com/parents/brad-pitt-larry/

I really think some of you have forgotten how terrible she was, particularly to other women in hollywood while pursuing only men in relationships. She also looked and acted like a character out of Natural Born Killers for a long while before she suddenly became Saint Angelina.

So it’s her fault that Billy Bob and Brad cheated on their long term girlfriends and wife?

Please. This woman may not be perfect, but judging from the way she interacts with her adult kids, she’s been a good mom.

And having been in an abusive relationship with a very “charming” man, Brad gives me the ick. He’s not a good guy and he knows it. Hence he’s stayed back from more investigation of his family life.

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Anonymous wrote:What was the finally sticking point to finalize the divorce?

she got the upper edge when the judge granted her request for all of his communications. The finalization happened around the deadline h needed to give it to her. She hasn't filed her answer to the winery case either that was due last month. I assume it's on hold while they wrap it up.

Weren’t those communications related to the winery case which was separated from the divorce and is going to trial. She also never the NDA’s the judge ordered.

Yes she did hand the NDA's over. You can use evidence across different cases if it's deemed relevancy. Communications surrounding the abuse and the evidence would fulfill that.

Based on your answer then it seems the communications were not the determining factor in the divorce. I assume she’s going to use them in the winery case so they would still, possibly, be made public.