Anonymous
Post 11/13/2024 09:37     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We're just careening along from one crisis to the next!

"We're not going back"...Joy...Coconut Trees... and all the things.


How the Dems bungled into ww3 with nobody volunteering to the military takes the cake. The hyperinflation and fast food becoming a luxury item is just in its infancy.


Because doc workers and their leaders are all democrat? I don't think so.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2024 09:36     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you President Biden and VP Harris!


Private negotiation between dock workers and private company. Biden/Harris promised not to get involved?

Outside of doing nothing, what congratulating do they deserve? Please explain.

It kinda like I deserve credit today as the Sun finally came out!


Here you go! Lengthy article explaining how the WH, Biden, and his Secretary of Labor and Transportation all played key roles in the negotiation. I'm looking forward to your detailed response.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/04/biden-white-house-harris-port-strike/


NP linking CNBC version since WP is locked to non subscribers.

Biden administration Acting Labor Secretary Julie Su was an important administration liaison working with both the union and port ownership group to reach a deal at meetings held in New Jersey on Thursday, according to a source familiar with the talks.

“The collective bargaining process really worked,” said Su in an interview. “We’ve been saying it all along. When workers have a real voice at the table and when they can help to determine the conditions of their jobs, we’re seeing really historic gains for working people, and we’re also seeing it because we have such a strong economy. ... Companies that are making record profits are realizing that when they do right by their workers, it’s better not just for working people, it’s better for their industries, it’s better for their future.”

Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg— “the parties were not as far apart as it sounded on economics. There were strong positions, strong personalities, but there was a deal space.” He added that Hurricane Helene played a role in moving closer to a deal. “That’s one thing that I emphasized when I was talking to the ocean carriers, urging them to get to a deal. You know, the last thing that emergency responders need is to be looking over their shoulder, wondering if they’re going to be impacted by a strike.”

President Biden had said on camera Wednesday, “The last thing we need on top of that is a manmade disaster — what’s going on at the ports.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/03/port-strike-ends-as-workers-agree-to-tentative-deal-on-wages-and-contract-extension.html


Here’s another potentially inflationary issue that Trump will have to deal with. The strike was put off until January.


He will send the troop is to shot and kill them. Maga will cheer.



Ok, that would just be another variation of what Dems here wanted Biden to back in September/October. Did y’all forget that already?

Most of you wanted Joe to fire ALL of the striking workers IMMEDIATELY, and get the ports running again RIGHT NOW! There was an election and an economy at stake! And these overpaid union goons were going to blow the election for Dems!

Remember that? I sure do.



But now I see DCUM has swung back to the side of the unions again, now that Trump is coming back.



Y’all are so predictable and so stupid.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2024 09:26     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you President Biden and VP Harris!


Private negotiation between dock workers and private company. Biden/Harris promised not to get involved?

Outside of doing nothing, what congratulating do they deserve? Please explain.

It kinda like I deserve credit today as the Sun finally came out!


Here you go! Lengthy article explaining how the WH, Biden, and his Secretary of Labor and Transportation all played key roles in the negotiation. I'm looking forward to your detailed response.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/04/biden-white-house-harris-port-strike/


NP linking CNBC version since WP is locked to non subscribers.

Biden administration Acting Labor Secretary Julie Su was an important administration liaison working with both the union and port ownership group to reach a deal at meetings held in New Jersey on Thursday, according to a source familiar with the talks.

“The collective bargaining process really worked,” said Su in an interview. “We’ve been saying it all along. When workers have a real voice at the table and when they can help to determine the conditions of their jobs, we’re seeing really historic gains for working people, and we’re also seeing it because we have such a strong economy. ... Companies that are making record profits are realizing that when they do right by their workers, it’s better not just for working people, it’s better for their industries, it’s better for their future.”

Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg— “the parties were not as far apart as it sounded on economics. There were strong positions, strong personalities, but there was a deal space.” He added that Hurricane Helene played a role in moving closer to a deal. “That’s one thing that I emphasized when I was talking to the ocean carriers, urging them to get to a deal. You know, the last thing that emergency responders need is to be looking over their shoulder, wondering if they’re going to be impacted by a strike.”

President Biden had said on camera Wednesday, “The last thing we need on top of that is a manmade disaster — what’s going on at the ports.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/03/port-strike-ends-as-workers-agree-to-tentative-deal-on-wages-and-contract-extension.html


Here’s another potentially inflationary issue that Trump will have to deal with. The strike was put off until January.


He will send the troop is to shot and kill them. Maga will cheer.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2024 09:08     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you President Biden and VP Harris!


Private negotiation between dock workers and private company. Biden/Harris promised not to get involved?

Outside of doing nothing, what congratulating do they deserve? Please explain.

It kinda like I deserve credit today as the Sun finally came out!


Here you go! Lengthy article explaining how the WH, Biden, and his Secretary of Labor and Transportation all played key roles in the negotiation. I'm looking forward to your detailed response.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/04/biden-white-house-harris-port-strike/


NP linking CNBC version since WP is locked to non subscribers.

Biden administration Acting Labor Secretary Julie Su was an important administration liaison working with both the union and port ownership group to reach a deal at meetings held in New Jersey on Thursday, according to a source familiar with the talks.

“The collective bargaining process really worked,” said Su in an interview. “We’ve been saying it all along. When workers have a real voice at the table and when they can help to determine the conditions of their jobs, we’re seeing really historic gains for working people, and we’re also seeing it because we have such a strong economy. ... Companies that are making record profits are realizing that when they do right by their workers, it’s better not just for working people, it’s better for their industries, it’s better for their future.”

Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg— “the parties were not as far apart as it sounded on economics. There were strong positions, strong personalities, but there was a deal space.” He added that Hurricane Helene played a role in moving closer to a deal. “That’s one thing that I emphasized when I was talking to the ocean carriers, urging them to get to a deal. You know, the last thing that emergency responders need is to be looking over their shoulder, wondering if they’re going to be impacted by a strike.”

President Biden had said on camera Wednesday, “The last thing we need on top of that is a manmade disaster — what’s going on at the ports.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/03/port-strike-ends-as-workers-agree-to-tentative-deal-on-wages-and-contract-extension.html


Here’s another potentially inflationary issue that Trump will have to deal with. The strike was put off until January.


Well, at least the ports won't have as much to load and unload when Trump's tariffs go into effect. 🤷
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2024 08:24     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you President Biden and VP Harris!


Private negotiation between dock workers and private company. Biden/Harris promised not to get involved?

Outside of doing nothing, what congratulating do they deserve? Please explain.

It kinda like I deserve credit today as the Sun finally came out!


Here you go! Lengthy article explaining how the WH, Biden, and his Secretary of Labor and Transportation all played key roles in the negotiation. I'm looking forward to your detailed response.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/04/biden-white-house-harris-port-strike/


NP linking CNBC version since WP is locked to non subscribers.

Biden administration Acting Labor Secretary Julie Su was an important administration liaison working with both the union and port ownership group to reach a deal at meetings held in New Jersey on Thursday, according to a source familiar with the talks.

“The collective bargaining process really worked,” said Su in an interview. “We’ve been saying it all along. When workers have a real voice at the table and when they can help to determine the conditions of their jobs, we’re seeing really historic gains for working people, and we’re also seeing it because we have such a strong economy. ... Companies that are making record profits are realizing that when they do right by their workers, it’s better not just for working people, it’s better for their industries, it’s better for their future.”

Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg— “the parties were not as far apart as it sounded on economics. There were strong positions, strong personalities, but there was a deal space.” He added that Hurricane Helene played a role in moving closer to a deal. “That’s one thing that I emphasized when I was talking to the ocean carriers, urging them to get to a deal. You know, the last thing that emergency responders need is to be looking over their shoulder, wondering if they’re going to be impacted by a strike.”

President Biden had said on camera Wednesday, “The last thing we need on top of that is a manmade disaster — what’s going on at the ports.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/03/port-strike-ends-as-workers-agree-to-tentative-deal-on-wages-and-contract-extension.html


Here’s another potentially inflationary issue that Trump will have to deal with. The strike was put off until January.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 22:28     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Odd how quick the PPs were to dismiss Biden's role, and then when presented with factual proof they are no where to be seen.


But that’s always the case. Which is why MAGA has lost all credibility. Unhinged exaggerations are not persuasive. Or very interesting.


That’s often the case when you talk to MAGA types in person too. They blurt some nonsense of some sort, then you say what about this or that? Then they quieten down and mumble something about liberals to try and save face, then wander off.


Where does this happen?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 22:26     Subject: Re:Dockworker’s strike

The automation thing got me thinking, kind of in tandem with an NPR discussion of major leaps in US policy history (FDR and LBJ--pointing out that although the right has long painted the Great Society as having destroyed the social and economic fabric, all of the things that have been made possible as a result, including the Black Woman interviewee born in 1964 having been able to go to college, get and advanced degree, and work in the WH--something in economic policy).

Social Security was a huge step along with other FDR initiative (that ol' "traitor to his class").

Many forms of automation are, I assume, treated as capital investment by the IRS. Regardless, business gets the advantages of efficiency, competitiveness, and profit, but at a cost for many workers--unemployment amount to half of a $50k annual or lower income, and lasts for 6 months, in rare cases extended for 13 or 26 weeks. This brings up the retraining discussion, which means tax funding.

Now, the industrial revolution has involved major changes in the workplace all along. Individual coal digs (literally individual) became company mines (as canals, then rails to the canals, then steam engines to ship on the rails and canals instead of donkeys and horses). The Luddites smashed textile machines but the textile machines survived. Kerosene took the place of whale oil--rig operators replacing men on the seas wielding harpoons. Bicycle makers built airplanes. And so on.

I don't know if some historian specializing in technology and economics could put metrics on the impact of these, I am assuming degree, pace, and effects of these impacts are all increasing but I really do not know. Even before the IR the gentry in the British Isles were fencing in the commons and kicking off the tenants.

Social Security and UI were both implemented with specific taxes on employers (plus the employee share of the SS taxes). Perhaps it's time to consider a dedicated tax fund in connection with the effect of technology on people's jobs. Social Security disability determination processes already examine work and education history as a factor in their determination process, so there is an existing framework of analysis that could be applied to someone becoming "technologically disabled." No, I am not saying the goal would simply be income replacement, it would simply determine eligibility for programs and qualifying programs for the individual. It COULD include income support in connection with retraining (if you are on UI and go to school, you lose UI).
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 18:30     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Odd how quick the PPs were to dismiss Biden's role, and then when presented with factual proof they are no where to be seen.


But that’s always the case. Which is why MAGA has lost all credibility. Unhinged exaggerations are not persuasive. Or very interesting.


That’s often the case when you talk to MAGA types in person too. They blurt some nonsense of some sort, then you say what about this or that? Then they quieten down and mumble something about liberals to try and save face, then wander off.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 16:52     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:Odd how quick the PPs were to dismiss Biden's role, and then when presented with factual proof they are no where to be seen.


But that’s always the case. Which is why MAGA has lost all credibility. Unhinged exaggerations are not persuasive. Or very interesting.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 16:47     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Odd how quick the PPs were to dismiss Biden's role, and then when presented with factual proof they are no where to be seen.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 14:06     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you President Biden and VP Harris!


Private negotiation between dock workers and private company. Biden/Harris promised not to get involved?

Outside of doing nothing, what congratulating do they deserve? Please explain.

It kinda like I deserve credit today as the Sun finally came out!


Here you go! Lengthy article explaining how the WH, Biden, and his Secretary of Labor and Transportation all played key roles in the negotiation. I'm looking forward to your detailed response.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/04/biden-white-house-harris-port-strike/


NP linking CNBC version since WP is locked to non subscribers.

Biden administration Acting Labor Secretary Julie Su was an important administration liaison working with both the union and port ownership group to reach a deal at meetings held in New Jersey on Thursday, according to a source familiar with the talks.

“The collective bargaining process really worked,” said Su in an interview. “We’ve been saying it all along. When workers have a real voice at the table and when they can help to determine the conditions of their jobs, we’re seeing really historic gains for working people, and we’re also seeing it because we have such a strong economy. ... Companies that are making record profits are realizing that when they do right by their workers, it’s better not just for working people, it’s better for their industries, it’s better for their future.”

Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg— “the parties were not as far apart as it sounded on economics. There were strong positions, strong personalities, but there was a deal space.” He added that Hurricane Helene played a role in moving closer to a deal. “That’s one thing that I emphasized when I was talking to the ocean carriers, urging them to get to a deal. You know, the last thing that emergency responders need is to be looking over their shoulder, wondering if they’re going to be impacted by a strike.”

President Biden had said on camera Wednesday, “The last thing we need on top of that is a manmade disaster — what’s going on at the ports.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/03/port-strike-ends-as-workers-agree-to-tentative-deal-on-wages-and-contract-extension.html
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 14:03     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you President Biden and VP Harris!


Private negotiation between dock workers and private company. Biden/Harris promised not to get involved?

Outside of doing nothing, what congratulating do they deserve? Please explain.

It kinda like I deserve credit today as the Sun finally came out!


Here you go! Lengthy article explaining how the WH, Biden, and his Secretary of Labor and Transportation all played key roles in the negotiation. I'm looking forward to your detailed response.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/04/biden-white-house-harris-port-strike/


Gift link. Thank you President Biden! Underestimate this man at your peril!
https://wapo.st/3ZTJVl0
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 13:54     Subject: Dockworker’s strike


LOL desperate MAGAs.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 13:47     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you President Biden and VP Harris!


Private negotiation between dock workers and private company. Biden/Harris promised not to get involved?

Outside of doing nothing, what congratulating do they deserve? Please explain.

It kinda like I deserve credit today as the Sun finally came out!


Here you go! Lengthy article explaining how the WH, Biden, and his Secretary of Labor and Transportation all played key roles in the negotiation. I'm looking forward to your detailed response.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/10/04/biden-white-house-harris-port-strike/
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2024 13:04     Subject: Dockworker’s strike

Anonymous wrote:Hilarious that the Make America Great Again crowd are crying their eyes out because the U.S. economy won’t be shut down for a month. No one hates this country more than Trump and his MAGA cult.


Yep. It's amazing they want their own country to fail to please Trump.