Well, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel!

"Why did you post this 4 times? You seem a little off. Are you mad your kid was on the 5th team and never got moved up despite your "advocating"?

Why don't we start with what's not true and go from there?

Edit 4:
At the start, the tryouts are managed poorly. It is just a bunch of scrimmages. Kids playing 5v5 with the coaches observing. No cone or speed drills. On that, 90% of the kids from the previous season are going to stay on the same teams unless there is an open spot.

-First, communication is poor.
-Parents do not get a voice.

Fourth and fifth teams here are all complete money grabs IMP. Most are recreational players at best with very few (one to two good players).

If kids move up, it is a nebulas decision done in a vacuum. No performance based assessments. Just nebulas comments that do not provide any quantifiable value.

-On fair competition or play, they do not rotate players within the team and have little equity in movement. If the coach wants to pigeon hole your kid, good luck in discussing any other options.

-There is lots of nepotism for other players and those parents still happy to pay the bill even though their kids are not truly a 1st, 2nd or 3rd team performer. I would challenge this institution to execute some form of a detailed assessment, but I think they are afraid of what might come to bare (who is good and who is not).

-If your kids committed to soccer, I would strongly consider other institutions first before this one or train them yourself. I would ask to observe a few practices and even watch some games before hand to determine if the level of play or training given fits your expectation.

-Do not forget to ask about what their win rate percentage is. To say this does not matter is pure BS. This number will give you some insight into how well the team is performing.

-How many wins, losses and ties? If they are reluctant in providing that detail, it means it is not worth mentioning to them.

-Arguably, Valor will take anyone with a heartbeat to fulfill a team roster of 12 to create fourth and fifth teams (kids with no left foot, still baby kicking balls, weak passing and chasing butterflies.

-The reason they wait to let out coaching slates is because they want to make sure they understand what overhead assets/operating expenses (resources) they can gather from the parents who want their kid to play to valor.

-They need that commitment first (Money grab). $2200-2300 x (12 players) = $26,400. Hourly rate for personal soccer coach is arguably $25-30 per-hour in this area.

-You might get……….
-6 hours a week: 2 practices per week (1.5 hours per practice)
-Two to four games on the weekend depending on the tournaments.
-Season starts September thru June.

Even if you were paying a coach for 9 hours' worth of work each week. $270 per week for 9 months of labor. $9720 for the season. Is it worth it???? IDK.
Yes, there is insurance, registration fees, field upkeep……. would love to see rationalized and broken out.

The organization could do a lot more and certainly make some equitable changes, but I would not hold your breath.

Anonymous wrote:Edit 3:
At the start, the tryouts are managed poorly. It is just a bunch of scrimmages. Kids playing 5v5 with the coaches observing. No cone or speed drills. On that, 90% of the kids from the previous season are going to stay on the same teams unless there is an open spot.

-First, communication is poor.
-Parents do not get a voice.

Fourth and fifth teams here are all complete money grabs IMP. Most are recreational players at best with very few (one to two good players).

If kids move up, it is a nebulas decision done in a vacuum. No performance based assessments. Just nebulas comments that do not provide any quantifiable value.

-On fair competition or play, they do not rotate players within the team and have little equity in movement. If the coach wants to pigeon hole your kid, good luck in discussing any other options.

-There is lots of nepotism for other players and those parents still happy to pay the bill even though their kids are not truly a 1st, 2nd or 3rd team performer. I would challenge this institution to execute some form of a detailed assessment, but I think they are afraid of what might come to bare (who is good and who is not).

If your kids committed to soccer, I would strongly consider other institutions first before this one or train them yourself. I would ask to observe a few practices and even watch some games before hand to determine if the level of play or training given fits your expectation.

-Do not forget to ask about what their win rate percentage is. To say this does not matter is pure BS. This number will give you some insight into how well the team is performing.

-How many wins, losses and ties? If they are reluctant in providing that detail, it means it is not worth mentioning to them.

Arguably, Valor will take anyone with a heartbeat to fulfill a team roster of 12 create fourth and fifth teams (kids with no left foot, still baby kicking balls, weak passing and chasing butterflies.

The organization could do a lot more and certainly make some equitable changes, but I would not hold your breath.

Why did you post this 4 times? You seem a little off. Are you mad your kid was on the 5th team and never got moved up despite your "advocating"?

Anonymous wrote:At the start, the tryouts are managed poorly. It is just a bunch of scrimmages. Kids playing 5v5 with the coaches observing. No cone or speed drills. On that, 90% of the kids from the previous season are going to stay on the same teams unless there is an open spot.

-First, communication is poor.
-Parents do not get a voice.

Fourth and fifth teams here are all complete money grabs IMO. Most are recreational players at best with very few (one to two good players).

If kids move up, it is a nebulas decision done in a vacuum with no real content added or value given. No performance-based assessments. Just nebulas comments that do not provide any quantifiable value.

-On fair competition or play, they do not rotate players within the team and have little equity in movement. If the coach wants to pigeon hole your kid, good luck in discussing any other options.

-There is lots of nepotism for other players and those parents still happy to pay the bill even though their kids are not truly a 1st, 2nd or 3rd team performer. I would challenge this institution to execute some form of a detailed assessment, but I think they are afraid of what might come to bare (who is good and who is not).

If your kids committed to soccer, I would strongly consider other institutions first before this one or train them yourself. I would ask to observe a few practices and even watch some games before hand to determine if the level of play or training given fits your expectation.

-Do forget to ask about what their win rate percentage is. To say this does not matter is pure BS. This number will give you some insight into how well the team is performing.

Arguably, Valor will take anyone with a heartbeat to fulfill a team roster of 12 to create fourth and fifth teams (kids with no left foot, still baby kicking balls, weak passing and chasing butterflies. No set standards.

The organization could do a lot more and certainly make some equitable changes, but I would not hold your breath

Nice

Edit 3:
At the start, the tryouts are managed poorly. It is just a bunch of scrimmages. Kids playing 5v5 with the coaches observing. No cone or speed drills. On that, 90% of the kids from the previous season are going to stay on the same teams unless there is an open spot.

-First, communication is poor.
-Parents do not get a voice.

Fourth and fifth teams here are all complete money grabs IMP. Most are recreational players at best with very few (one to two good players).

If kids move up, it is a nebulas decision done in a vacuum. No performance based assessments. Just nebulas comments that do not provide any quantifiable value.

-On fair competition or play, they do not rotate players within the team and have little equity in movement. If the coach wants to pigeon hole your kid, good luck in discussing any other options.

-There is lots of nepotism for other players and those parents still happy to pay the bill even though their kids are not truly a 1st, 2nd or 3rd team performer. I would challenge this institution to execute some form of a detailed assessment, but I think they are afraid of what might come to bare (who is good and who is not).

If your kids committed to soccer, I would strongly consider other institutions first before this one or train them yourself. I would ask to observe a few practices and even watch some games before hand to determine if the level of play or training given fits your expectation.

-Do not forget to ask about what their win rate percentage is. To say this does not matter is pure BS. This number will give you some insight into how well the team is performing.

-How many wins, losses and ties? If they are reluctant in providing that detail, it means it is not worth mentioning to them.

Arguably, Valor will take anyone with a heartbeat to fulfill a team roster of 12 create fourth and fifth teams (kids with no left foot, still baby kicking balls, weak passing and chasing butterflies.

The organization could do a lot more and certainly make some equitable changes, but I would not hold your breath.

At the start, the tryouts are managed poorly. It is just a bunch of scrimmages. Kids playing 5v5 with the coaches observing. No cone or speed drills. On that, 90% of the kids from the previous season are going to stay on the same teams unless there is an open spot.

-First, communication is poor.
-Parents do not get a voice.

Fourth and fifth teams here are all complete money grabs IMO. Most are recreational players at best with very few (one to two good players).

If kids move up, it is a nebulas decision done in a vacuum with no real content added or value given. No performance-based assessments. Just nebulas comments that do not provide any quantifiable value.

-On fair competition or play, they do not rotate players within the team and have little equity in movement. If the coach wants to pigeon hole your kid, good luck in discussing any other options.

-There is lots of nepotism for other players and those parents still happy to pay the bill even though their kids are not truly a 1st, 2nd or 3rd team performer. I would challenge this institution to execute some form of a detailed assessment, but I think they are afraid of what might come to bare (who is good and who is not).

If your kids committed to soccer, I would strongly consider other institutions first before this one or train them yourself. I would ask to observe a few practices and even watch some games before hand to determine if the level of play or training given fits your expectation.

-Do forget to ask about what their win rate percentage is. To say this does not matter is pure BS. This number will give you some insight into how well the team is performing.

Arguably, Valor will take anyone with a heartbeat to fulfill a team roster of 12 to create fourth and fifth teams (kids with no left foot, still baby kicking balls, weak passing and chasing butterflies. No set standards.

The organization could do a lot more and certainly make some equitable changes, but I would not hold your breath

First, communication is poor.
Parents do not get a voice.

At the start, the tryouts are managed poorly. It is just a bunch of scrimmages. Kids playing 5v5 with the coaches observing. No cone or speed drills. On that, 90% of the kids from the previous season are going to stay on the same teams unless there is an open spot.

-First, communication is poor.
-Parents do not get a voice.

Fourth and fifth teams here are all complete money grabs IMP. Most are recreational players at best with very few (one to two good players).

If kids move up, it is a nebulas decision done in a vacuum. No performance based assessments. Just nebulas comments that do not provide any quantifiable value.

-On fair competition or play, they do not rotate players within the team and have little equity in movement. If the coach wants to pigeon hole your kid, good luck in discussing any other options.

-There is lots of nepotism for other players and those parents still happy to pay the bill even though their kids are not truly a 1st, 2nd or 3rd team performer. I would challenge this institution to execute some form of a detailed assessment, but I think they are afraid of what might come to bare (who is good and who is not).

If your kids committed to soccer, I would strongly consider other institutions first before this one or train them yourself. I would ask to observe a few practices and even watch some games before hand to determine if the level of play or training given fits your expectation.

-Do forget to ask about what their win rate percentage is. To say this does not matter is pure BS. This number will give you some insight into how well the team is performing.

Arguably, Valor will take anyone with a heartbeat to fulfill a team roster of 12 to create fourth and fifth teams (kids with no left foot, still baby kicking balls, weak passing and chasing butterflies. No set standards.

The organization could do a lot more and certainly make some equitable changes, but I would not hold your breath.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would avoid this toxic waste land and find a parent on the team. They haven’t announced coaching for next season either. Scruggs current coach is moving out of state.

This toxic waste land has all the honest details though.

comformed✅

Anonymous wrote:I would avoid this toxic waste land and find a parent on the team. They haven’t announced coaching for next season either. Scruggs current coach is moving out of state.

This toxic waste land has all the honest details though.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any insights regarding Valor 2010 boys ECNL RL team?

Abdul is a decent coach. HP elite guy if i recall.

The U14 2010 coach is named HE. He is universally disliked and only got the job b/c the guy who was going to coach quit right when the season started. So he got moved up from coaching the second team. Parents were unhappy because they paid for a team coached by Coach Who Left and didn't want HE. Then someone filled in for awhile on the second team and they found the current 2nd team coach who was basically just an available warm body.

Anonymous wrote:Any insights regarding Valor 2010 boys ECNL RL team?

Abdul is a decent coach. HP elite guy if i recall.

I would avoid this toxic waste land and find a parent on the team. They haven’t announced coaching for next season either. Scruggs current coach is moving out of state.

Any insights regarding Valor 2010 boys ECNL RL team?

No need to insult rec teams by comparing them as even to the lowest Valor teams. Rec teams usually have a handful of great athletes or strong players, and often enthusiastic coaches who at least care about the kids improving.

Low level valor teams don't have any great athletes, strong players, or enthusiastic coaches.