Anonymous wrote:It appears that Greater Greater Washington and the big development lobbying machine are pulling out all the stops to oppose a historic district in Chevy Chase.

There is no shortage of housing for "Greater Greater Washington and the big development lobbying machine" in your head.

It appears that Greater Greater Washington and the big development lobbying machine are pulling out all the stops to oppose a historic district in Chevy Chase.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice op-ed from people of the cloth

https://ggwash.org/view/91803/make-a-home-for-affordable-housing-in-chevy-chase-dc

It would carry more heft if the people of the cloth also were to propose development of substantial affordable housing on their own religious institutions' properties.

A lot of them are.

Really? Please list them.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Is there a current shortage of housing in DC? If so, what kind are we short on? And how would this development address that?
The shortage people face seems to be SFH with room to grow a family, but wouldn't these be more apartments for singles? I don't see any shortage there.

Yes, there is a critical shortage of housing, or all kinds, in DC, hence anywhere we can get new units, is a good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Is there a current shortage of housing in DC? If so, what kind are we short on? And how would this development address that?
The shortage people face seems to be SFH with room to grow a family, but wouldn't these be more apartments for singles? I don't see any shortage there.

Why it matters: The D.C. metro is short almost 134,000 homes for sale or rent, one of the widest housing gaps in the country, a new Zillow analysis shows.
https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2023/07/01/washington-dc-rent-housing-inventory

In 2019, the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments issued a report stating that the region needs to add 320,000 more housing units between 2020 and 2030, and that at least 75% of this new housing should be affordable to low- and medium-income households.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-washington-dc-region-needs-more-housing-and-satellite-data-can-tell-us-where-to-build/

There are currently almost 3000 properties for sale in DC proper alone. Plus all the rental properties. There is no housing shortage.

Now, can everyone afford to own in Cleveland Park or Chevy Chase? Of course not. They’re just going to have to work harder and save or change their expectations. Many of us lived in the suburbs and commuted in by transit in our 20s and early 30s to be able to afford to live in nice DC neighborhoods. All these 20 something ANC commissioners who are just out of college with a worthless humanities degree somehow think there is a problem because they cannot afford to buy in CP. Tough luck. Put the time in and pay your dues and move to North Bethesda for a few years. There are no participation trophies in the real estate game.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Trumpy deflection from addressing the point.

Name-calling to deflect from answering the question.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice op-ed from people of the cloth

https://ggwash.org/view/91803/make-a-home-for-affordable-housing-in-chevy-chase-dc

It would carry more heft if the people of the cloth also were to propose development of substantial affordable housing on their own religious institutions' properties.

A lot of them are.

Anonymous wrote:If you are going to up zone property with the goal of affordable housing, it should be more than 10% affordable.

Great, I think most people who want affordable housing would agree with you. Your friends and neighbors have fought this tooth and nail through the last three zoning re-writes. Maybe on the next one, you will be happy to join the likes of the Coalition for Smarter Growth, Ward 3 Vision, WIN and others in upping that number.

Well, tonight's anc meeting is going to be a fascinating display of ugliness. But the votes are there for the resolution supporting housing to go through, so it's also going to be the death rattle of the anti housing startup "movement" by the Chevy Chase voice people. Good riddance.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Is there a current shortage of housing in DC? If so, what kind are we short on? And how would this development address that?
The shortage people face seems to be SFH with room to grow a family, but wouldn't these be more apartments for singles? I don't see any shortage there.

Why it matters: The D.C. metro is short almost 134,000 homes for sale or rent, one of the widest housing gaps in the country, a new Zillow analysis shows.
https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2023/07/01/washington-dc-rent-housing-inventory

In 2019, the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments issued a report stating that the region needs to add 320,000 more housing units between 2020 and 2030, and that at least 75% of this new housing should be affordable to low- and medium-income households.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-washington-dc-region-needs-more-housing-and-satellite-data-can-tell-us-where-to-build/

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Is there a current shortage of housing in DC? If so, what kind are we short on? And how would this development address that?
The shortage people face seems to be SFH with room to grow a family, but wouldn't these be more apartments for singles? I don't see any shortage there.

DC law only requires about half of the affordable housing (IZ) that Montgomery County, MD requires in new development. Bowser and her pals in the development industry always intone affordable affordable to bolster their 'build, baby, build!" agenda, but clearly they are not serious about affordable housing.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Is there a current shortage of housing in DC? If so, what kind are we short on? And how would this development address that?
The shortage people face seems to be SFH with room to grow a family, but wouldn't these be more apartments for singles? I don't see any shortage there.

Since the city drove out rent controlled residents in favor of over market rate voucher residents, I am no longer interested in placing affordable housing OR low-income housing in these new developments in prime real estate areas. Clearly the city isn't interested in a middle swath for workers, retirees, single parents etc since they have had it all up our major cooridors, and are destroying it.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't fall for the promise of affordable housing. The "progressives" on the CP ANC actually voted down an amendment to require more affordable housing in up-zoned properties. They're just in the pocket of developers.

Affordable housing is just a red herring from the DC development lobby. It’s really about the development.

So you think it is better to restrict housing in the city and have that income and sales tax go to other jurisdictions?

Trumpy deflection from addressing the point.

Not PP, but I'm curious how many times in this thread have you responded to a comment by calling it "Trumpy" rather than address the point?

Also, not sure how one would address a "point" that is a blank assertion that people are not motivated by what they state they are motivated by.

I'll try this, from the Biden administration, so maybe it won't be accused of being "Trumpy"

"Increasing the supply of housing is one way to address shortages and provide more affordable options."
https://www.gao.gov/blog/affordable-housing-crisis-grows-while-efforts-increase-supply-fall-short