Anonymous
08/02/2023 19:19
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
A very recent article--published about an hour ago--states that the Big Ten contract does not have an escalator clause in their media rights agreement in the event U Washington, U Oregon, Stanford, and/or UCal-Berkeley is added to the conference. (There is--according to reports--an escalator clause for the addition of Notre Dame however.) Without an escalator clause, the Big Ten's network partners will have significant input into any decision regarding the addition of new members to the Big Ten Conference.
The Big 12 Conference media rights contract does have an escalator clause so the Big 12 can, presumably, move faster than the Big Ten regarding expansion since their is one less hurdle to address.
The Big 12 Conference media rights contract does have an escalator clause so the Big 12 can, presumably, move faster than the Big Ten regarding expansion since their is one less hurdle to address.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 18:27
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
I can see Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Cal being invited. It prevents any other conference from being coast to coast with major brands. The B1G would relegate the SEC to the South and then probably poach Texas and Florida for the dagger.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 18:21
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
East
Rutgers
Penn State
Maryland
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
West
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
USC
UCLA
Stanford
Cal
Oregon
Washington
Crazy Rich
Rutgers
Penn State
Maryland
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern
Illinois
West
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Nebraska
USC
UCLA
Stanford
Cal
Oregon
Washington
Crazy Rich
Anonymous
08/02/2023 17:56
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous
08/02/2023 17:55
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing that UMD fans are resigned to never again competing for a conference championship. Even a division championship is likely out following realignment. The same is going to be true for fans of almost every original b Big10 school. How long until hoping everything breaks rights their team wins 8 games and goes to Duke's Mayo Bowl isn't enough to make fans care anymore?
B1G is an NFL model running its teams through major markets and paying huge money. It will be interesting if the league gets a salary cap, draft and pays players for league wide competitive balance like the nfl. That’s what makes the pot of gold skyrocket.
It’s like the NFL if people didn’t care about 90% of teams
Anonymous
08/02/2023 17:45
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Very informative piece:
https://oklahoman.com/story/sports/college/big-12/2023/08/02/big-12-expansion-arizona-decision-puts-pac-12-on-brink-of-destruction/70514910007
States that the Big 12 has given Arizona a deadline to move on Big 12 offer.
Big 12 must pay all new members equal share to existing members, but Big Ten Conference does not have this requirement.
Pac-12 Apple offer is just $19 million per team, not $20 million as I wrote in an earlier post.
https://oklahoman.com/story/sports/college/big-12/2023/08/02/big-12-expansion-arizona-decision-puts-pac-12-on-brink-of-destruction/70514910007
States that the Big 12 has given Arizona a deadline to move on Big 12 offer.
Big 12 must pay all new members equal share to existing members, but Big Ten Conference does not have this requirement.
Pac-12 Apple offer is just $19 million per team, not $20 million as I wrote in an earlier post.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 17:42
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
When UMD monetized it’s location and research budget the ACC hyperventilated and drafted a bulletproof GOR. None of the schools that think they are too good for the ACC can escape without losing more money than they would by staying. Plus the B1G and SEC don’t want or need the drama of getting involved with the insane litigation that will be involved. The ACC schools are thrashing around having a fit and throwing everything against the wall shocked by their powerlessness. The conference used to be pretty arrogant and raided other conferences plus acted elitist. It’s really a bad look academically how their administrators were so stupid and now are so childish and panicky. The ACC schools look like losers and need to start acting dignified.
The ACC should just give up football and go the big East model when the GOR dissolved in 13 years.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 17:37
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing that UMD fans are resigned to never again competing for a conference championship. Even a division championship is likely out following realignment. The same is going to be true for fans of almost every original b Big10 school. How long until hoping everything breaks rights their team wins 8 games and goes to Duke's Mayo Bowl isn't enough to make fans care anymore?
B1G is an NFL model running its teams through major markets and paying huge money. It will be interesting if the league gets a salary cap, draft and pays players for league wide competitive balance like the nfl. That’s what makes the pot of gold skyrocket.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 17:04
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Worth reading:
https://si.com/college/2023/08/02/big-ten-expansion-oregon-washington-pac-12-cal-stanford
Notes that university presidents leaning towards all 4 schools while media partners prefer to add just Oregon & Washington.
https://si.com/college/2023/08/02/big-ten-expansion-oregon-washington-pac-12-cal-stanford
Notes that university presidents leaning towards all 4 schools while media partners prefer to add just Oregon & Washington.
Anonymous
08/02/2023 16:54
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
The Nicole Auerbach article:
https://theathletic.com/4743596/2023/08/02/big-ten-expansion-pac-12-realignment/
https://theathletic.com/4743596/2023/08/02/big-ten-expansion-pac-12-realignment/
Anonymous
08/02/2023 16:36
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:By adding the 4 Pac-12 schools (Wash, Oregon, Stanford, & Cal) currently under discussion, the Big Ten Conference is likely to be viewed in a very positive light--almost as a savior. And, if the Big ten doesn't rescue U Washington & U Oregon, then the Big 12--and possibly the SEC--will.
Can't wait for the potemtial conference rivals UF and UW to meet up!
The great Oregon / Rutgers rivalry is about to take off. . .
Anonymous
08/02/2023 15:34
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
If Saturday football is really worth this much money, does the NFL ever add a couple of teams, drop Thursday and move to 1 and 4 on Saturday and Sunday in addition to primetime on Sunday and Monday?
Anonymous
08/02/2023 15:32
Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
I'm guessing that UMD fans are resigned to never again competing for a conference championship. Even a division championship is likely out following realignment. The same is going to be true for fans of almost every original b Big10 school. How long until hoping everything breaks rights their team wins 8 games and goes to Duke's Mayo Bowl isn't enough to make fans care anymore?
Anonymous
08/02/2023 15:31
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:By adding the 4 Pac-12 schools (Wash, Oregon, Stanford, & Cal) currently under discussion, the Big Ten Conference is likely to be viewed in a very positive light--almost as a savior. And, if the Big ten doesn't rescue U Washington & U Oregon, then the Big 12--and possibly the SEC--will.
Can't wait for the potemtial conference rivals UF and UW to meet up!
Anonymous
08/02/2023 15:30
Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Quick Thought:
This moves the Big Ten away from a focus on adding Notre Dame as ND wants independence, in large part, to be viewed as a national school. Heavy Catholic population in the Northeast US & in the Middle Atlantic states.
Bring on U Miami & Georgia Tech, then Notre Dame would be foolish to remain independent when the Big Ten is truly the national conference.
This moves the Big Ten away from a focus on adding Notre Dame as ND wants independence, in large part, to be viewed as a national school. Heavy Catholic population in the Northeast US & in the Middle Atlantic states.
Bring on U Miami & Georgia Tech, then Notre Dame would be foolish to remain independent when the Big Ten is truly the national conference.