Anonymous wrote:Ted tells his mom he has been seeing the therapist. I don’t think we needed to see the details of the sessions this season for her to be included in the finale.

I also disagree that we don’t know why Ted went home. He went home to his son as fully explain in the episode with his mom, not his ex wife.

We get the reason but we don't get much of Ted talking about it. The show is called "Ted Lasso" and while we hear Ted's mom tell him he needs to go home to his son, we really don't see Ted discuss it much at all. And given that we also don't see him tell Rebecca that he's leaving, or even see how he arrived at that decision, it feels unfinished. Even when he and Rebecca do finally talk and she suggest he bring his son and Michelle over to London, he doesn't explain why that won't work (I can guess, but he doesn't say) or really explain much at all. He just says no.

It would have been helpful to see at least a small snippet of an appointment with his therapist, to better understand his emotional journey this season. I feel like it was hinted at but not explained. And the way the show ends with Ted leaving the note for Trent "it was never about me" feels like a cop out. Like yes, Ted's approach to coaching and to life isn't about him, which is what makes him refreshing and what winds up being so good for the team and the people in his orbit -- he understands that the role of a coach, or a friend, is often just to support and facilitate, not to advise or fix or control. Too few people understand that and it's something I like about this show.

But Ted's life IS about Ted. The team may not be, but his decision to return to KC, his feelings about his ex-wife and about leaving the life he has built for himself in London, is about him. And it would have been nice to actually hear him talk about that decision, to have dialogue or action that show how that decision was made. Instead it's like we have a collection of clues we have to interpret. But I'd like emotional closure on the actual character instead.

It was also weird that initially it was just assumed Beard would go back with him (again, no discussion about this because we don't get to see Ted discuss things this season) and then there's the big dramatic scene on the plane. But that was weird because why would Ted's choice to leave automatically mean Beard does too? It's not like Ted has another coaching gig lined up. And Beard has a relationship in London. That is the kind of thing people would talk about and it's weird that they didn't.

Anonymous wrote:I miss it already.

I miss Roy. I might never not miss Roy Kent.

I miss it already.

Ted tells his mom he has been seeing the therapist. I don’t think we needed to see the details of the sessions this season for her to be included in the finale.

I also disagree that we don’t know why Ted went home. He went home to his son as fully explain in the episode with his mom, not his ex wife.

Anonymous wrote:The ending set up the opportunity to do a spin off

Beard and Roy Coach Richmond?

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Anonymous wrote:But did any of that really happen? Or was it just what Ted dreamed for them as he flew home? Because they showed all of these ways their individual dreams came true - including things years in the future (Sam playing for Nigeria in World Cup) and then after that he opened his eyes on the plane. I want to believe it’s all true but they built in this ambiguity.

We said that at the end, too. In my head, it’s a dream that comes true.

But why was Ted going “home” to what had been the family home? I get that his first stop would be to see Henry, but it just felt odd that that was seemingly returning “home.”

DH and I felt that Ted's storyline was the most disappointing/least resolved, and that undercuts the effectiveness of this as a finale. I liked where Roy, Jaime, Keeley, Rebecca, Nate, the team, Beard all ended up -- it felt appropriate to their characters and satisfying.

But Ted felt like he was barely in this season and we just have NO resolution on his character at all. We don't even see him tell Rebecca he's leaving -- it's just implied. It's totally unclear what he's returning home to -- is Michelle still with their marriage counselor (a huge and upsetting betrayal that really undermines my ability to understand why he would try to go back to her)? I get that it's about his son, but we don't really even see him talk about this. Honestly, Ted was just kind of a cipher this season.

Which brings me to my biggest issue with the finale -- the therapist. We haven't seen her almost at all this season, it's not even clear Ted is still seeing her. Then we see her a ton in the scene where everyone is watching the last match, and then we learn she's hired by the club as their official mental health person and see Roy going in to see her. I view this as a satisfying conclusion to Roy's story, but it leaves me wondering what the heck is going on with Ted because it felt like the therapist was pivotal to his storyline and he was her main purpose for still being on the show, and yet we don't see them interact at all. It's just weird and disjointed.

I don't mind when shows leave things ambiguous but in this case they just left them unfinished. I don't get it.

I agree with all of this re the therapist, not seeing Ted tell Rebecca he’s leaving, and so on. There was that great scene at the start where Ted asked Rebecca if she wanted to talk about “it” and it turns out they didn’t have much of a convo initially.

But, the final shots of Ted coaching youth soccer show Michelle in the stands without the marriage counselor—granted he seemed bored by soccer, but maybe he was also out of the picture by then.

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Anonymous wrote:But did any of that really happen? Or was it just what Ted dreamed for them as he flew home? Because they showed all of these ways their individual dreams came true - including things years in the future (Sam playing for Nigeria in World Cup) and then after that he opened his eyes on the plane. I want to believe it’s all true but they built in this ambiguity.

We said that at the end, too. In my head, it’s a dream that comes true.

But why was Ted going “home” to what had been the family home? I get that his first stop would be to see Henry, but it just felt odd that that was seemingly returning “home.”

DH and I felt that Ted's storyline was the most disappointing/least resolved, and that undercuts the effectiveness of this as a finale. I liked where Roy, Jaime, Keeley, Rebecca, Nate, the team, Beard all ended up -- it felt appropriate to their characters and satisfying.

But Ted felt like he was barely in this season and we just have NO resolution on his character at all. We don't even see him tell Rebecca he's leaving -- it's just implied. It's totally unclear what he's returning home to -- is Michelle still with their marriage counselor (a huge and upsetting betrayal that really undermines my ability to understand why he would try to go back to her)? I get that it's about his son, but we don't really even see him talk about this. Honestly, Ted was just kind of a cipher this season.

Which brings me to my biggest issue with the finale -- the therapist. We haven't seen her almost at all this season, it's not even clear Ted is still seeing her. Then we see her a ton in the scene where everyone is watching the last match, and then we learn she's hired by the club as their official mental health person and see Roy going in to see her. I view this as a satisfying conclusion to Roy's story, but it leaves me wondering what the heck is going on with Ted because it felt like the therapist was pivotal to his storyline and he was her main purpose for still being on the show, and yet we don't see them interact at all. It's just weird and disjointed.

I don't mind when shows leave things ambiguous but in this case they just left them unfinished. I don't get it.

Ted's only resolution is that he chose to come home to his son instead of staying with Richmond. The rest is wide open. We don't know if he and Michelle are back together - only that they are at least on good enough terms that he can stay at her house, when he arrives. We don't know if she's with the therapist still or not - she seemed annoyed with him while she and Henry were watching the game, but people get annoyed with each other even when they stay together.

He's home with Henry, the rest is to be decided - which seems right. He and Michelle didn't have enough time together, I don't think, to know if they want to get back together - but at least now they can see, if they want to.

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Anonymous wrote:But did any of that really happen? Or was it just what Ted dreamed for them as he flew home? Because they showed all of these ways their individual dreams came true - including things years in the future (Sam playing for Nigeria in World Cup) and then after that he opened his eyes on the plane. I want to believe it’s all true but they built in this ambiguity.

We said that at the end, too. In my head, it’s a dream that comes true.

But why was Ted going “home” to what had been the family home? I get that his first stop would be to see Henry, but it just felt odd that that was seemingly returning “home.”

DH and I felt that Ted's storyline was the most disappointing/least resolved, and that undercuts the effectiveness of this as a finale. I liked where Roy, Jaime, Keeley, Rebecca, Nate, the team, Beard all ended up -- it felt appropriate to their characters and satisfying.

But Ted felt like he was barely in this season and we just have NO resolution on his character at all. We don't even see him tell Rebecca he's leaving -- it's just implied. It's totally unclear what he's returning home to -- is Michelle still with their marriage counselor (a huge and upsetting betrayal that really undermines my ability to understand why he would try to go back to her)? I get that it's about his son, but we don't really even see him talk about this. Honestly, Ted was just kind of a cipher this season.

Which brings me to my biggest issue with the finale -- the therapist. We haven't seen her almost at all this season, it's not even clear Ted is still seeing her. Then we see her a ton in the scene where everyone is watching the last match, and then we learn she's hired by the club as their official mental health person and see Roy going in to see her. I view this as a satisfying conclusion to Roy's story, but it leaves me wondering what the heck is going on with Ted because it felt like the therapist was pivotal to his storyline and he was her main purpose for still being on the show, and yet we don't see them interact at all. It's just weird and disjointed.

I don't mind when shows leave things ambiguous but in this case they just left them unfinished. I don't get it.

The ending set up the opportunity to do a spin off

Anonymous wrote:I watched the last two episodes last night. As an EPL fan I loved Pep Guardiola's cameo and how Ted and Beard absolutely fan-girled over their interaction with him. I thought the finale was absolutely perfect. Yes, it was corny, but it's happy endings that make you happy, and we need more of that.

The Keeley love triangle brought back such 90210 vibes for me - remember Kelly and "I choose me"? Good for her!

I loved her and Barbara ending up together - KBPR, yes. I guess all the stuff this season that seems like it had forgotten who Keely is was leading up to her own personal breakthroughs, too.

I can live with not knowing if she and Roy (or Jamie!) ever get back together

Anonymous wrote:But did any of that really happen? Or was it just what Ted dreamed for them as he flew home? Because they showed all of these ways their individual dreams came true - including things years in the future (Sam playing for Nigeria in World Cup) and then after that he opened his eyes on the plane. I want to believe it’s all true but they built in this ambiguity.

We said that at the end, too. In my head, it’s a dream that comes true.

But why was Ted going “home” to what had been the family home? I get that his first stop would be to see Henry, but it just felt odd that that was seemingly returning “home.”

Rupert was giving off some serious Darth Vader vibes in his black outfit.

I watched the last two episodes last night. As an EPL fan I loved Pep Guardiola's cameo and how Ted and Beard absolutely fan-girled over their interaction with him. I thought the finale was absolutely perfect. Yes, it was corny, but it's happy endings that make you happy, and we need more of that.

The Keeley love triangle brought back such 90210 vibes for me - remember Kelly and "I choose me"? Good for her!

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Anonymous wrote:Fun that they had a Cheers Easter Egg:

Thanks for that, I was wondering what that picture scene was about and never would have figured it out.

Thank you! It was so familiar, and I knew I knew it from *something* but I couldn’t place it and never would have.

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Anonymous wrote:Fun that they had a Cheers Easter Egg:

Thanks for that, I was wondering what that picture scene was about and never would have figured it out.

what's the link with Cheers? Sudeikis a fan? What did they have an Easter Egg to the Cheers finale but not other finales?

Sudeikis is George Wendt's nephew