Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.
At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.
cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.
I posted after that I think there should be carveouts for rape, incest and medical problems.
Ohhh so just naughty sluts should be punished? That’s okay with you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.
Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.
They are cells in the beginning. I agree.
Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.
YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you
I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.
Except they may ban birth control too. Or at least access to it. Maybe you would be willing to raise those babies?
No one is banning birth control. Don’t be ridiculous.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the protest? I am going with my 14 year old Daughter and 18 year old son.
We're past the point of protest. I suggest getting your documents in order and if you can finding work elsewhere. Get out while you can!
I’m not abandoning my country to the fascists. They are the minority.
But yet they hold the Supreme Court tried to take over the presidency by force and have mitch blocking everything in the senate.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.
Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.
They are cells in the beginning. I agree.
Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.
YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you
I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.
Except they may ban birth control too. Or at least access to it. Maybe you would be willing to raise those babies?
No one is banning birth control. Don’t be ridiculous.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: This is not something I thought I would ever actually see.
Kudos to the SCOTUS on this. Always should have been up to the states.
But why exactly? I'm just looking for the rationale why it should be a state decision and not a federal one. I can't have children anymore so just curious for the next generation.
There is no Constitutional right to an abortion. The Constitution enshrines a very small number of fundamental enumerated and unenumerated rights. It doesn’t protect everything that’s good.
In the midst of a massive social and political fight over abortion, Roe and Casey created an obvious fiction: a Constitutional right to “privacy” that included a right to abortion. This removed the issue from the usual political process, and did irreparable damage to the Court and the country. Suddenly the Court was a 100% political institution.
Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy.
Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where are the protest? I am going with my 14 year old Daughter and 18 year old son.
We're past the point of protest. I suggest getting your documents in order and if you can finding work elsewhere. Get out while you can!
I’m not abandoning my country to the fascists. They are the minority.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.
At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.
You should read up then because this decision is about allowing state legislatures to determine what abortion rights are available at each state. A state legislature can decide complete banning of abortion, prosecution of women and doctors, access to medical records etc.
This is the most regressive ruling of the highest court of any developed country. It is astonishing what it signals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.
Except the woman who is carrying a bunch of cells.
They are cells in the beginning. I agree.
Second trimester fetuses are not just cells.
YOUR opinion and certainly not something to be imposed on people who don't agree with you
I think there should be carveouts like incest, rape and obviously medical problems and complications. I just don’t think a mom should be able to terminate at 4 months as a form of birth control.
Except they may ban birth control too. Or at least access to it. Maybe you would be willing to raise those babies?
No one is banning birth control. Don’t be ridiculous.
Anonymous wrote:Thank you, SCOTUS, for affirming that ALL LIVES MATTER.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: This is not something I thought I would ever actually see.
Kudos to the SCOTUS on this. Always should have been up to the states.
But why exactly? I'm just looking for the rationale why it should be a state decision and not a federal one. I can't have children anymore so just curious for the next generation.
There is no Constitutional right to an abortion. The Constitution enshrines a very small number of fundamental enumerated and unenumerated rights. It doesn’t protect everything that’s good.
In the midst of a massive social and political fight over abortion, Roe and Casey created an obvious fiction: a Constitutional right to “privacy” that included a right to abortion. This removed the issue from the usual political process, and did irreparable damage to the Court and the country. Suddenly the Court was a 100% political institution.
Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.
At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.
cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.
There are people who will slut shame that woman and make money out of the baby using shady adoption practices
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.
At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.
cool. tell that cute little story to the woman who was raped and is forced to give birth to a child she didn't want.
I posted after that I think there should be carveouts for rape, incest and medical problems.
Anonymous wrote:At first I was outraged but I realized it was no abortion after 15 weeks.
At 15 weeks, the fetus seems like a baby to me. I remember sharing my pregnancy and a picture of my ultrasound at the beginning of my second trimester and it was indeed a baby. When the baby has a head and body, that is a baby. Assuming you have a baby being on this forum.