Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

That’s an extraordinarily unintelligent take on what’s transpired. Activists are twisting themselves into pretzels to brand the bill as “don’t say gay” but the majority of Floridians agree that gender and sexuality is not an appropriate topic for kindergarteners.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

That’s an extraordinarily unintelligent take on what’s transpired. Activists are twisting themselves into pretzels to brand the bill as “don’t say gay” but the majority of Floridians agree that gender and sexuality is not an appropriate topic for kindergarteners.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

That’s an extraordinarily unintelligent take on what’s transpired. Activists are twisting themselves into pretzels to brand the bill as “don’t say gay” but the majority of Floridians agree that gender and sexuality is not an appropriate topic for kindergarteners.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

That’s an extraordinarily unintelligent take on what’s transpired. Activists are twisting themselves into pretzels to brand the bill as “don’t say gay” but the majority of Floridians agree that gender and sexuality is not an appropriate topic for kindergarteners.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Didn't seem to be. This whole thing was triggered by Republicans being so infuriated that Disney is somewhat supportive of gay people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing Ive been considering is whether the CEO of Disney actually cares about the Florida parks. Or any parks. A couple years ago, he announced that the company's focus would be shifting to its streaming content as a first priority. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/12/disney-reorganizes-to-focus-on-streaming-direct-to-consumer.html

What followed was a lot of chatter online about Disney's service and quality declining:

Complaints of price gouging and disgusting smells:
https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/30/disneyland-complaints-of-ride-breakdowns-smells-and-price-growing-16376396/

Complaints from Inside The Magic-- the fan zine of Disney-- about the merch quality:
https://insidethemagic.net/2022/01/disney-drop-quality-merch-ld1/

Complaints that the new $1200 per night hotel sucks:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/12/13/disney-removes-video-for-star-wars-hotel-amid-fan-backlash/amp/

More Disney fan sites saying they are outraged by various aspects of service:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wdwinfo.com/walt-disney-world/the-disney-bubble-burst-its-time-to-stop-giving-them-a-pass/amp/


I think given this 2+ year trend, it is safe to say, as the CEO did, that the parks are no longer a priority. Its entirely possible the CEO made a calculated gamble with this, that getting on board the hollywood battle cries against dont say gay would be better for business (streaming) than appealing to its more conservative park goers.

Interesting perspective.

Sure wonder what was happening the past two year?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?

Wrong thread?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One thing Ive been considering is whether the CEO of Disney actually cares about the Florida parks. Or any parks. A couple years ago, he announced that the company's focus would be shifting to its streaming content as a first priority. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/12/disney-reorganizes-to-focus-on-streaming-direct-to-consumer.html

What followed was a lot of chatter online about Disney's service and quality declining:

Complaints of price gouging and disgusting smells:
https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/30/disneyland-complaints-of-ride-breakdowns-smells-and-price-growing-16376396/

Complaints from Inside The Magic-- the fan zine of Disney-- about the merch quality:
https://insidethemagic.net/2022/01/disney-drop-quality-merch-ld1/

Complaints that the new $1200 per night hotel sucks:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/12/13/disney-removes-video-for-star-wars-hotel-amid-fan-backlash/amp/

More Disney fan sites saying they are outraged by various aspects of service:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wdwinfo.com/walt-disney-world/the-disney-bubble-burst-its-time-to-stop-giving-them-a-pass/amp/


I think given this 2+ year trend, it is safe to say, as the CEO did, that the parks are no longer a priority. Its entirely possible the CEO made a calculated gamble with this, that getting on board the hollywood battle cries against dont say gay would be better for business (streaming) than appealing to its more conservative park goers.

Interesting perspective.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disney should
1) Try to get a new a CEO who can smooth things over with the State government
2) If that doesnt work they should pay off their autonomous zone's debts to the bond holders (otherwise I suspect bond holders will be left holding the bag).
3) Petition to be entirely in one county. Kind of crazy for them to have deal with emergency services of 2 counties.

Bond holders will not be left holding the bag. They are secured. Orange County and it’s residents will be responsible for that debt. On the day the district ceases to exist in 2023. That is why there will be a deal here that will be fine for Disney.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disney should
1) Try to get a new a CEO who can smooth things over with the State government
2) If that doesnt work they should pay off their autonomous zone's debts to the bond holders (otherwise I suspect bond holders will be left holding the bag).
3) Petition to be entirely in one county. Kind of crazy for them to have deal with emergency services of 2 counties.

There's nothing to "smoothe over". The idea that a company is only allowed to support republicans is ridiculous and would send a terrible message to people.

Anonymous wrote:One thing Ive been considering is whether the CEO of Disney actually cares about the Florida parks. Or any parks. A couple years ago, he announced that the company's focus would be shifting to its streaming content as a first priority. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/12/disney-reorganizes-to-focus-on-streaming-direct-to-consumer.html

What followed was a lot of chatter online about Disney's service and quality declining:

Complaints of price gouging and disgusting smells:
https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/30/disneyland-complaints-of-ride-breakdowns-smells-and-price-growing-16376396/

Complaints from Inside The Magic-- the fan zine of Disney-- about the merch quality:
https://insidethemagic.net/2022/01/disney-drop-quality-merch-ld1/

Complaints that the new $1200 per night hotel sucks:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/12/13/disney-removes-video-for-star-wars-hotel-amid-fan-backlash/amp/

More Disney fan sites saying they are outraged by various aspects of service:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wdwinfo.com/walt-disney-world/the-disney-bubble-burst-its-time-to-stop-giving-them-a-pass/amp/


I think given this 2+ year trend, it is safe to say, as the CEO did, that the parks are no longer a priority. Its entirely possible the CEO made a calculated gamble with this, that getting on board the hollywood battle cries against dont say gay would be better for business (streaming) than appealing to its more conservative park goers.

Anonymous wrote:Disney should
1) Try to get a new a CEO who can smooth things over with the State government
2) If that doesnt work they should pay off their autonomous zone's debts to the bond holders (otherwise I suspect bond holders will be left holding the bag).
3) Petition to be entirely in one county. Kind of crazy for them to have deal with emergency services of 2 counties.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Politico which leans center to center right had an interesting article how Republicans keep losing the culture wars. It didn’t work with the NFL and it isn’t going to work with Disney. Disney’s best play is to come out with a simple statement that it will continue to support the diversity of ALL of their employees and guests regardless of race, gender, or sexual preference. “ That’s it and then enjoy the 1 billion dollar debt right off and 160 million tax break. The counties will end up needing to recreate another special district and Disney will have the leverage to negotiate an even better deal.

An enormous percentage of americans families have members that are gay or have suffered a sexual assault, or have terminated a pregnancy, or are minorities, or are immigrants, or are imprisoned, etc, ect. How are these culture wars to be won when most of the population are families that include people bring attacked by the war?