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We moved our kid from public to a DC private high school a few years ago. We're still good friends with a few families from public but I've been pretty purposeful about never portraying private as great (as frankly it is't always)---I'm either really open about the good, bad and ugly or I don't say anything. Almost always (99% of the time) it's the later--I keep the conversation on the 15 other things we can talk about---general kid issues, work, vacation, etc.

That said, last evening I went to a sporting game between my kid's current private high school and the public high school that they would have attended. I saw the broader circle of people we used to know: car pool buddies, sports teams members, etc. I was almost universally snubbed. It was weird and uncomfortable. These are people I never once talked about private school with and in the past we always had pleasant conversations when running into each other. It was striking. I'm kind of a sensitive person by nature and I left the evening feeling really down. (I know, I know---I don't have to be universally liked but people were cold) The public/private divide runs deep in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t think $1 million a year is impressive???? I sure do. Most people I know who make that much are working lots of hours and sacrificing time with their families. That’s what people do to make that much money. There are trade offs.

No. Not really. And most lawyers earn it in very unappetizing ways. Grinding on documents, or compliance programs or litigation prep. I feel sorry for the BigLaw parents. It’s a tough grind.

You have zero idea what you’re talking about. A big law partner making that much money has associates doing this kind of grind work. They are busy with presentations, client meetings and deal making.

Not the Big Law partners that work FOR ME! It’s not as grindy as the younger lawyers but it’s way more of a grind and travel and grunt work than what I do. I do the strategy. They gather the details and then triple check them. Sorry. I do know what I am talking about. I pick the lawyers and I pay the bills.

I don’t even know what you are talking about. Are you a lawyer? What bills? Wth are you saying?

Are you slow? The point is that the law is largely a grind, even for many, if not most, partners.

Ok - yeah, we all got that part. But who cares?! What does your weird personal hate of lawyers have to do with this thread??

You are slow. There is no hate, just a recognition that there is a spread between the hype and the reality. The practice of law is a slog regardless of salary. Off of the subject but relevant to one of the pps.

Anonymous wrote:There's a version of this thread every year about this time. Does anybody remember the "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful" shampoo ads maybe 20 years ago? It comes off the same way, basically pretty cringy.

Anonymous wrote:Private school parents must be the most insecure group of people I’ve ever encountered. The search for constant validation would be kinda funny if you weren’t dragging your kids into your neuroses.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t think $1 million a year is impressive???? I sure do. Most people I know who make that much are working lots of hours and sacrificing time with their families. That’s what people do to make that much money. There are trade offs.

No. Not really. And most lawyers earn it in very unappetizing ways. Grinding on documents, or compliance programs or litigation prep. I feel sorry for the BigLaw parents. It’s a tough grind.

You have zero idea what you’re talking about. A big law partner making that much money has associates doing this kind of grind work. They are busy with presentations, client meetings and deal making.

Not the Big Law partners that work FOR ME! It’s not as grindy as the younger lawyers but it’s way more of a grind and travel and grunt work than what I do. I do the strategy. They gather the details and then triple check them. Sorry. I do know what I am talking about. I pick the lawyers and I pay the bills.

I don’t even know what you are talking about. Are you a lawyer? What bills? Wth are you saying?

Are you slow? The point is that the law is largely a grind, even for many, if not most, partners.

Ok - yeah, we all got that part. But who cares?! What does your weird personal hate of lawyers have to do with this thread??

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t think $1 million a year is impressive???? I sure do. Most people I know who make that much are working lots of hours and sacrificing time with their families. That’s what people do to make that much money. There are trade offs.

No. Not really. And most lawyers earn it in very unappetizing ways. Grinding on documents, or compliance programs or litigation prep. I feel sorry for the BigLaw parents. It’s a tough grind.

You have zero idea what you’re talking about. A big law partner making that much money has associates doing this kind of grind work. They are busy with presentations, client meetings and deal making.

Not the Big Law partners that work FOR ME! It’s not as grindy as the younger lawyers but it’s way more of a grind and travel and grunt work than what I do. I do the strategy. They gather the details and then triple check them. Sorry. I do know what I am talking about. I pick the lawyers and I pay the bills.

I don’t even know what you are talking about. Are you a lawyer? What bills? Wth are you saying?

Are you slow? The point is that the law is largely a grind, even for many, if not most, partners.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you rather have your kids hang out with and learn from kids that extend their hands and say "Hello, nice to see you Mrs. xxxx" or kids with pants hanging below their Arses and trying to fight other kids for no apparent reason as is the case in our high school. No thanks. Yes, IN GENERAL, the kids are better and come from better families in private schools.

This is rich! I’ve witnessed firsthand these exact kids doing drugs and having sex in the parking lots of “Big 3” schools. Don’t let their manners fool you.

You are just jealous. Those kids are go getters unlike your public school kid.

Anonymous wrote:There's a version of this thread every year about this time. Does anybody remember the "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful" shampoo ads maybe 20 years ago? It comes off the same way, basically pretty cringy.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who admits to being jealous about all sorts of money things from travel to car to home renovations I can 1000 percent say private does not make the list. I have also found the teachers are better on balance in public, esp after learning a very average classmate of mine got a job teaching at sidwell with no prior experience. (Years ago) No doubt smaller class sizes, personal attention/coddling and better facilities come with private, and there’s the occasional bad teacher in public. I’m just one of those people who has different values including socioeconomic diversity, and feels my public is more than good enough to educated kids. And I’m not alone judging by all the Uber educated and wealthy families in our local public.

All the Uber educated and wealthy families at your local public? Thanks for the laugh.

Reminds me of the joke about the person being given a tour of heaven who asked about the big curtained off area. St Peter replied “Those are the Southern Baptists. They don’t know that the rest of you are here.”

We’re a 2 PhD family of researchers with a fair amount of national accolades in our fields. We still have happy hours with parents from our public, including the current president of a large national, frequently in the news national scientific association, a frequent CNN contributor who has been running a DC think tank since he stopped teaching at Harvard, a senior state department official, a senior IC person, and a much cited national journalist.

I’m sure the parents of private school kids are lovely, and I would never presume to make blanket statements about them.

Sounds like a small gathering of parents at our private. Amazing number of CEOs, prominent scholars, national news channel anchors and leading lawyers.

I am "just" a lawyer. Could you explain how one qualifies as a "leading lawyer" to an uninformed layperson like yourself?

Managing partner at Williams and Connelly, head of DC office of major firms, Cravath, Sullivan, Latham or K/E partner pulling $7 - 10 million per year. People who win multi-billion awards at the S.CT, GC’s at some of the largest multinationals on the planet. Those types. You must not be a good lawyer, asking a question you clearly don’t know the answer to.

Cravath only has offices in NYC. Nice try.

We know someone who commutes from DC to NYC for their law firm job.

Not at Cravath.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t think $1 million a year is impressive???? I sure do. Most people I know who make that much are working lots of hours and sacrificing time with their families. That’s what people do to make that much money. There are trade offs.

No. Not really. And most lawyers earn it in very unappetizing ways. Grinding on documents, or compliance programs or litigation prep. I feel sorry for the BigLaw parents. It’s a tough grind.

You have zero idea what you’re talking about. A big law partner making that much money has associates doing this kind of grind work. They are busy with presentations, client meetings and deal making.

Not the Big Law partners that work FOR ME! It’s not as grindy as the younger lawyers but it’s way more of a grind and travel and grunt work than what I do. I do the strategy. They gather the details and then triple check them. Sorry. I do know what I am talking about. I pick the lawyers and I pay the bills.

I don’t even know what you are talking about. Are you a lawyer? What bills? Wth are you saying?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who admits to being jealous about all sorts of money things from travel to car to home renovations I can 1000 percent say private does not make the list. I have also found the teachers are better on balance in public, esp after learning a very average classmate of mine got a job teaching at sidwell with no prior experience. (Years ago) No doubt smaller class sizes, personal attention/coddling and better facilities come with private, and there’s the occasional bad teacher in public. I’m just one of those people who has different values including socioeconomic diversity, and feels my public is more than good enough to educated kids. And I’m not alone judging by all the Uber educated and wealthy families in our local public.

All the Uber educated and wealthy families at your local public? Thanks for the laugh.

Reminds me of the joke about the person being given a tour of heaven who asked about the big curtained off area. St Peter replied “Those are the Southern Baptists. They don’t know that the rest of you are here.”

We’re a 2 PhD family of researchers with a fair amount of national accolades in our fields. We still have happy hours with parents from our public, including the current president of a large national, frequently in the news national scientific association, a frequent CNN contributor who has been running a DC think tank since he stopped teaching at Harvard, a senior state department official, a senior IC person, and a much cited national journalist.

I’m sure the parents of private school kids are lovely, and I would never presume to make blanket statements about them.

Sounds like a small gathering of parents at our private. Amazing number of CEOs, prominent scholars, national news channel anchors and leading lawyers.

I am "just" a lawyer. Could you explain how one qualifies as a "leading lawyer" to an uninformed layperson like yourself?

Managing partner at Williams and Connelly, head of DC office of major firms, Cravath, Sullivan, Latham or K/E partner pulling $7 - 10 million per year. People who win multi-billion awards at the S.CT, GC’s at some of the largest multinationals on the planet. Those types. You must not be a good lawyer, asking a question you clearly don’t know the answer to.

Cravath only has offices in NYC. Nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who admits to being jealous about all sorts of money things from travel to car to home renovations I can 1000 percent say private does not make the list. I have also found the teachers are better on balance in public, esp after learning a very average classmate of mine got a job teaching at sidwell with no prior experience. (Years ago) No doubt smaller class sizes, personal attention/coddling and better facilities come with private, and there’s the occasional bad teacher in public. I’m just one of those people who has different values including socioeconomic diversity, and feels my public is more than good enough to educated kids. And I’m not alone judging by all the Uber educated and wealthy families in our local public.

All the Uber educated and wealthy families at your local public? Thanks for the laugh.

Reminds me of the joke about the person being given a tour of heaven who asked about the big curtained off area. St Peter replied “Those are the Southern Baptists. They don’t know that the rest of you are here.”

We’re a 2 PhD family of researchers with a fair amount of national accolades in our fields. We still have happy hours with parents from our public, including the current president of a large national, frequently in the news national scientific association, a frequent CNN contributor who has been running a DC think tank since he stopped teaching at Harvard, a senior state department official, a senior IC person, and a much cited national journalist.

I’m sure the parents of private school kids are lovely, and I would never presume to make blanket statements about them.

Sounds like a small gathering of parents at our private. Amazing number of CEOs, prominent scholars, national news channel anchors and leading lawyers.

I am "just" a lawyer. Could you explain how one qualifies as a "leading lawyer" to an uninformed layperson like yourself?

Managing partner at Williams and Connelly, head of DC office of major firms, Cravath, Sullivan, Latham or K/E partner pulling $7 - 10 million per year. People who win multi-billion awards at the S.CT, GC’s at some of the largest multinationals on the planet. Those types. You must not be a good lawyer, asking a question you clearly don’t know the answer to.

Cravath only has offices in NYC. Nice try.

We know someone who commutes from DC to NYC for their law firm job.

Not at Cravath.