There you go - parents charged with involuntary manslaughter.

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Anonymous wrote:They've arraigned the killer. He looks just like those creeps in Columbine. And the parents KNEW he was having disciplinary problems in school and still left that gun unattended in the household. Disgusting.

The “creeps” at Columbine who were ostracized and bullied by their classmates?

Gee, you think there *might* be something to this whole bullying thing?

Pretty much. There were playing around with explosives. He was playing around with Molotov cocktails. They had home videos. He had weird social media videos with his gun.

From their journals, Harris and Klebold had seemed to begin planning the attack a year prior. Throughout the next year, Harris and Klebold meticulously built explosives and gathered an arsenal of weapons. Harris and Klebold left behind several journal writings and home videos, foreshadowing the massacre and explaining their actions, with what they hoped to achieve.

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Best thing I’ve heard all day.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe if the parents who fail these "sweet boys" (always this) would not be so worried about their narrative - but instead, be more concerned about their family, and their impact on the world, their sons would not be shooting up schools.

My kids are in middle school - but they can't graduate soon enough for me. Parents should not have to be worried every time they drop their kid off at the bus stop, that it might be the last time they see them, because Mrs. Smith down the street can't be bothered to care about anything but herself and her narrative.

So sexist.

When is the last time you saw a girl school shooter? When is the last time you had a problematic kid in school, and the mom was the one (of the parents) who did not want to get the kid the help he needs. I know several in my rich community. In each case, it happens to be the mom that is against meds. When you know so much about your own community, and you are worried about THAT KID coming to school with guns (plural) - then feel free to chime in. It's not a great feeling to know it is only a matter of time in your school. Sit down.

It’s 2021 and you’re still blaming the mom for being either too checked out or too coddling. Where’s dad? Why is he getting a pass? IME, even the hands-on dads know very little about their kids’ day-to-day experiences with social circles or classes.

From my experience in classrooms, yes, that is exactly what is happening. How many meetings have you sat in on??

Additionally, in my experience, the schools are not allowed to tell you that they suspect a true mental illness or problem.
When my son was having learning difficulties which resulted in a severe ADHD diagnosis (which took several years and thousands of dollars to diagnose for those who think you can just "get help"), I had to initiate the meeting with the school regarding dropping grades. As I sat in the meeting, I had to push and was told explicitly that they could not tell me that they thought there was an issue. It wasn't until I was in the parking lot did his teacher whisper in my ear to get him evaluated, but please don't tell anyone she said that.
I don't doubt for a second that the meeting with the school was 15 minutes of "we are concerned" with absolutely no resources provided. The kid was allowed right back into the classroom with a gun in his backpack. If we are going to place any blame on the child, we should also be casting significant blame on the school administrators for not immediately providing support and resources.

Anonymous wrote:They've arraigned the killer. He looks just like those creeps in Columbine. And the parents KNEW he was having disciplinary problems in school and still left that gun unattended in the household. Disgusting.

The “creeps” at Columbine who were ostracized and bullied by their classmates?


Gee, you think there *might* be something to this whole bullying thing?

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

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There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.

Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.

Yes, it does, but based on this picture, the kid does not have the ones related to the eyes, the nose and the upper lip. I can't see the ears (having big ears is not it).

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

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There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Then my face should be deformed because I am mentally ill, too - and it’s not just depression or anxiety. It’s a type of psychosis. I’m also a physician who has worked tirelessly to care for covid patients the past 1.5 years while also managing my own family’s adjustment to the pandemic. Yeah, I take my meds, but I’m still mentally ill.

My boss sure doesn’t worry about my facial structure.

What this kid did is indefensible. So are your comments about facial structure and mental illness.

I’m really starting to think the poster(s) so into his “facial anomalies” have serious problems of their own.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

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There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.

Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.

Can we stop with this please? We have no idea if he has fetal alcohol syndrome (and it’s doubtful - he may have wide set eyes but nothing else). And there aren’t facial deformities that connect to mental illness. You people have lost all sense of reality.

I'm not the first FAS poster, but as soon as I saw his photo that's immediately what I thought too.

Do you research on FAS before you start spouting crap about it. He actually has almost none of the FAS facial markers - no smooth philtrum (he is very well defined), his upper lip is not thin, the eye size (not distance but actual size) is quite normal. FAS facial features only occur during the first trimester. The vast majority of kids with FAS do not have the facial markers.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

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There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.

Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.

What anomalies are you noticing?

You are trying to debate the topic, and are looking for plausible deniability - the usual schtick. Look it up.

The traditional rules of debate put the burden of proof on the person making the claim. If you tell someone to “go look it up”, you have lost the debate.

And ps - the only facial anomaly he has, associated with fetal alcohol syndrome, is wide set eyes. You need much more than that to attempt to make an internet diagnosis.

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Then my face should be deformed because I am mentally ill, too - and it’s not just depression or anxiety. It’s a type of psychosis. I’m also a physician who has worked tirelessly to care for covid patients the past 1.5 years while also managing my own family’s adjustment to the pandemic. Yeah, I take my meds, but I’m still mentally ill.

My boss sure doesn’t worry about my facial structure.

What this kid did is indefensible. So are your comments about facial structure and mental illness.

So many PPs chiming seem to be hiding something, possibly something terrible.......

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Anonymous wrote:If you look at the faces of these shooters - they look subhuman, crazy and low IQ. As if they were casted in these roles by some Hollywood casting director. With dead, crazy, Sanpaku eyes too...

Really? He looks like any other 15 year old. There is nothing to indicate he is low IQ. You cannot tell that from a mug shot.
What he did was horrific but walking around judging people as subhuman, low IQ, and crazy by their appearance is awful.

No, he doesn't look like any other 15 yr old. He looks like a criminal and low IQ man. You put him in a suit and he will still looks criminal. Maybe he is poor and that shows in his appearance too. But you can look at rich, depraved criminal men, and while they will look expensively attired and entitled...their criminality also shows on their faces. Especially the eyes. This looks like an evil man and his parents also look evil.

He is still a 15 year old CHILD.

He's not being charged as a CHILD and rightly so.

+1

There are facial deformities that connect to mental illness.

Interesting. Can you share more about this? If this is true, I wonder if this is some of the subtle things our guts are telling us when they subconsciously warn us about someone.

Fetal alcohol syndrome causes facial anomalies.

What anomalies are you noticing?

You are trying to debate the topic, and are looking for plausible deniability - the usual schtick. Look it up.

IMHO, pitchforking the parents who disagree and/or have been at the receiving end of classroom violence is NOT the answer, getting your child the help he so desperately needs IS the answer. If you debate that, then that is on you, not the rest of the classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe if the parents who fail these "sweet boys" (always this) would not be so worried about their narrative - but instead, be more concerned about their family, and their impact on the world, their sons would not be shooting up schools.

My kids are in middle school - but they can't graduate soon enough for me. Parents should not have to be worried every time they drop their kid off at the bus stop, that it might be the last time they see them, because Mrs. Smith down the street can't be bothered to care about anything but herself and her narrative.

So sexist.

When is the last time you saw a girl school shooter? When is the last time you had a problematic kid in school, and the mom was the one (of the parents) who did not want to get the kid the help he needs. I know several in my rich community. In each case, it happens to be the mom that is against meds. When you know so much about your own community, and you are worried about THAT KID coming to school with guns (plural) - then feel free to chime in. It's not a great feeling to know it is only a matter of time in your school. Sit down.

It’s 2021 and you’re still blaming the mom for being either too checked out or too coddling. Where’s dad? Why is he getting a pass? IME, even the hands-on dads know very little about their kids’ day-to-day experiences with social circles or classes.

From my experience in classrooms, yes, that is exactly what is happening. How many meetings have you sat in on??