Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 17:42     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.


Vienna is awful. Arlington beats them like a drum and we love listening to the crying and complaining parents.


Isn’t this supposed to be about development in preparation for the recruiting years and not just playing the biggest and winning at u-littles?

At the older ages, how do Arlington teams look other than the 2011’s? And from the 2011 team, didn’t their top scorer come from Vienna just this past year?


2010 Arlington girls - 6 wins
2010 Brave (Vienna) girls - 11 wins

2009 Arlington - 4 wins
2009 Brave - 0 wins

2008 Arlington - 3 wins
2008 Brave - 8 wins

2007 Arlington - 3 wins
2007 Brave - 2 wins

Decide for yourself whether that is “Arlington beating Vienna like a drum”.

And yes, one of Arlington 2011’s top scorers came up through Vienna.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 15:34     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Isn't the Arlington 2012G ECNL coach formerly from Mclean, and very popular? I heard she's a draw for top players.

Bigger picture: I wish clubs would pay attention to this dynamic, players will flock to your club if you have the right coaches.


She’s not a draw. None of the Arlington coaches are. Worst ecnl club in virginia now that brave is gone.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 15:05     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Isn't the Arlington 2012G ECNL coach formerly from Mclean, and very popular? I heard she's a draw for top players.

Bigger picture: I wish clubs would pay attention to this dynamic, players will flock to your club if you have the right coaches.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 14:33     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.


Vienna is awful. Arlington beats them like a drum and we love listening to the crying and complaining parents.


Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 14:31     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.


Vienna is awful. Arlington beats them like a drum and we love listening to the crying and complaining parents.


Isn’t this supposed to be about development in preparation for the recruiting years and not just playing the biggest and winning at u-littles?

At the older ages, how do Arlington teams look other than the 2011’s? And from the 2011 team, didn’t their top scorer come from Vienna just this past year?
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 13:28     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.


Vienna is awful. Arlington beats them like a drum and we love listening to the crying and complaining parents.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 08:42     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:DB and CW didn't do the Union 2011s any favors over the last few years.

Stubborn, out of touch, and passive aggressive coaching styles.


We know each other! Sadly I agree 100% and no idea why CW didnt make some adjustments in the last two month (if you know, you know what I men)
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 07:47     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.


Very strong punting Vienna team. This is why MV’s best player left. No development. Just defensive tactics.


We were sold possession Dutch soccer. All we got was American kick ball. We knew this would never develop properly in the long run.


What coach/club would you say is properly developing at the older ages and to what end?

I feel like development depends on what the end goal is too. Is it college soccer or to become one of the best players in the world.

Vienna does focus on individual 1v1 skills at the younger ages more than most other clubs. So it does a good job of producing players/scorers that are comfortable with the ball at their feet. Other skill sets will be a bit behind other clubs because of it and it does result in a more direct style.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 07:39     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
DB and CW didn't do the Union 2011s any favors over the last few years.

Stubborn, out of touch, and passive aggressive coaching styles.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2024 01:46     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.


Very strong punting Vienna team. This is why MV’s best player left. No development. Just defensive tactics.


MV didn’t coach the 12s. VK did. Try again.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 23:39     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.


Very strong punting Vienna team. This is why MV’s best player left. No development. Just defensive tactics.


We were sold possession Dutch soccer. All we got was American kick ball. We knew this would never develop properly in the long run.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 23:09     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.


Very strong punting Vienna team. This is why MV’s best player left. No development. Just defensive tactics.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 18:03     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team


2012s drawing heavily from a strong Vienna team, followed by McLean, and a couple of strong players from BRYC. Team rounded out with players from outside of feeder clubs. Some good players chose other teams, that’s always going to happen. There will likely be growing pains as the team learns to play together but lots of potential.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 15:48     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:I am the PP who posted the predictions. The reason I placed the 2011s where I did is primarily because this forum reported that Union has a majority of players on next years FVU team. That is, the weaker team has a majority of players on the new team. This forum also reported that a Brave player and a Union player are going to Arlington and because that is a top team I presumed those two players are strong and would be a loss to FVU. This forum has also reported more Union players leaving than Brave players but I didn’t take this into account since Union is the weaker team.

Second, I looked at goal differential which puts Brave at 8th and Union at 10th.

Third, looking at the standings and goal differential numbers it looks like Arlington and Charlotte are the clear 1 and 2, followed by a pack of VDA, Courage, Richmond, and Beach (based on GD maybe Courage underperformed?) After that there seems to be a gulf to 7th place.

If I have overlooked some data please write in, but sentimential statement like “we hope for the best” or “stop trashing FVU” misses the point of my post which is really trying to be objective and data based. Not trying to offend anyone.


Did you apply this logic with very specific “data” to the other age groups? You combed through this 300+ page post and grabbed all the relevant “data” and applied this to each team?

Or perhaps a bone to pick with the 2011 team for obvious reasons? GD was the only actual data you used and even that is flawed when not factoring in injuries.
Anonymous
Post 06/04/2024 15:47     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Any scuttlebutt on the 2012s? They may be the luckiest ones to benefit from a "new" team