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Anonymous wrote:Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Valor is SYA and CYA. There are quite a few of us with $1.5 mil and up homes after this most recent run up in the area east of the Sully Highlands fields, where most practices are held. My kids when they played for Valor both only had academy once a week in Centreville, everything else was at Sully. Once you go east of Lawyers Rd and Fox Mill Rd you'll encounter a lot of $2 mil and up homes.

DP. When I think about someone who owns a $2 million home paying for Valor for multiple years, the phrase "more money than sense" comes to mind.

Anonymous wrote:Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Valor is SYA and CYA. There are quite a few of us with $1.5 mil and up homes after this most recent run up in the area east of the Sully Highlands fields, where most practices are held. My kids when they played for Valor both only had academy once a week in Centreville, everything else was at Sully. Once you go east of Lawyers Rd and Fox Mill Rd you'll encounter a lot of $2 mil and up homes.

Anonymous wrote:I don't need 300 pages to tell me what I can observe with my own eyes. We have given Valor more than enough time and our child has played for three different coaches. The training sessions just are not very intense or effective. And this is the top level team. The difference was immediately noticeable when our child attended practices at other clubs. And it made me sad that my kid who loves soccer was missing out on good coaching this whole time all because I didn't realize how bad Valor was. I understand that team practice isn't the only important thing, but if all they do is the same ineffective drills over and over they aren't going to improve as a team. I feel bad for the kids whose parents haven't even thought of looking around a bit. They seem to have no idea how much better it is at other clubs.

Echoing this experience. A few families seem emotionally stuck at Valor and therefore unwilling to move and shocked when families leave for these same very valid reasons. You can like the families and even a coach but be unhappy with the training. You are a paying customer at the end of the day and I feel like this is lost in the conversation a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Name one of these “reputable” clubs and give us a definition of what “reputable” means.

Did you just move here? There are 100 decent soccer orgs within a 20 minute drive of Valorland. BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, Burke, Manassas Soccer Club, NVSC, VSA, Herndon, PAC, Loudoun, VRSC...the list goes on and on.

Every club you listed (and those that are part of the “the list goes on and on”) are subject to the same criticisms

Could you link us to the 300 page complaint threads for all these other clubs, I must have missed them.

Same few trolls filling up 300 pages.

please stop valor marketing guy.

Feel free to start a new topic trolling BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, BAC. OH WAIT none of those clubs have the same basic, elementary, and recuring issues like Valor.

Bruh… this was admittedly funny and well timed the first couple times you used the “valor marketing” joke. It’s been a year though… a year… of you posting this at least once a week on here. You’re like the autistic kid in class who made everyone laugh one time but now you keep making the same joke throughout the year.

🤡“300 pAgEs oF CoMpLaiNts”… you single handily make up at least a 1/3 of this thread with rage bait. This club definitely deserves the legit complaints, but I’ve regrettably followed this thread long enough to know you also have some kind of weird obsession with this club. It’s quite literally your daily routine - wake up, get on DC Urban Moms and Dads, and hit refresh until you see a chance to troll. Normal people don’t stalk instagram posts, look up tournament results of kids’ teams they have zero relationship with, or analyze financial reports.

Did the mean Scottish guy touch you or something?

I don't need 300 pages to tell me what I can observe with my own eyes. We have given Valor more than enough time and our child has played for three different coaches. The training sessions just are not very intense or effective. And this is the top level team. The difference was immediately noticeable when our child attended practices at other clubs. And it made me sad that my kid who loves soccer was missing out on good coaching this whole time all because I didn't realize how bad Valor was. I understand that team practice isn't the only important thing, but if all they do is the same ineffective drills over and over they aren't going to improve as a team. I feel bad for the kids whose parents haven't even thought of looking around a bit. They seem to have no idea how much better it is at other clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be furious if some random Valor coach was sneaking around my child's rec practice trying to talk to them. That's extremely disturbing. We want nothing to do with such an unscrupulous organization.

I woud be offended if some Valor coach showed up and insulted my kid with a hard sell on playing for his sh!tty fifth level travel team. If my kid wanted to play travel, I would take him to tryouts to make an actual real team. No need to insult kids--and the 5th team is an insult-- just trying to enjoy their rec practices.

I'm struggling to see why you would be offended by this unless you are A) a troll who just wants to complain or B) have a child you don't think is any good. No travel coach is going to seek out bad players. They are looking for talent. But by all means, be offended if your child is ever approached. Reminder that Messi was discovered playing for fun on a beach. I guess that should have infuriated his parents as well.

Let’s be honest. It’s a little disingenuous to say travel coaches are looking and only accepting true talent. They need to fill seats too. It’s a business after all. The result is unsatisfied parents whose kids don't get the play time/minutes they need due to that underperformance. I’ve seen first hand with kids that shouldn't be on a tier I team because they are so desperately seeking that higher level of competition.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be furious if some random Valor coach was sneaking around my child's rec practice trying to talk to them. That's extremely disturbing. We want nothing to do with such an unscrupulous organization.

I woud be offended if some Valor coach showed up and insulted my kid with a hard sell on playing for his sh!tty fifth level travel team. If my kid wanted to play travel, I would take him to tryouts to make an actual real team. No need to insult kids--and the 5th team is an insult-- just trying to enjoy their rec practices.

I'm struggling to see why you would be offended by this unless you are A) a troll who just wants to complain or B) have a child you don't think is any good. No travel coach is going to seek out bad players. They are looking for talent. But by all means, be offended if your child is ever approached. Reminder that Messi was discovered playing for fun on a beach. I guess that should have infuriated his parents as well.

Oh honey no, Valor is just looking for warm bodies with credit cards for those bottom teams. Being asked to play on the 5th team is an insult.

Lol. Probably a 2/3 of the posts have been somebody accusing someone else about being a Valor coach and the other person saying they are not. Most other club threads are a little more civil and a lot less personal.. But I'm just an unaffected lurker here for the entertainment value

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Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Name one of these “reputable” clubs and give us a definition of what “reputable” means.

Did you just move here? There are 100 decent soccer orgs within a 20 minute drive of Valorland. BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, Burke, Manassas Soccer Club, NVSC, VSA, Herndon, PAC, Loudoun, VRSC...the list goes on and on.

Every club you listed (and those that are part of the “the list goes on and on”) are subject to the same criticisms

Could you link us to the 300 page complaint threads for all these other clubs, I must have missed them.

Same few trolls filling up 300 pages.

please stop valor marketing guy.

Feel free to start a new topic trolling BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, BAC. OH WAIT none of those clubs have the same basic, elementary, and recuring issues like Valor.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be furious if some random Valor coach was sneaking around my child's rec practice trying to talk to them. That's extremely disturbing. We want nothing to do with such an unscrupulous organization.

I woud be offended if some Valor coach showed up and insulted my kid with a hard sell on playing for his sh!tty fifth level travel team. If my kid wanted to play travel, I would take him to tryouts to make an actual real team. No need to insult kids--and the 5th team is an insult-- just trying to enjoy their rec practices.

I'm struggling to see why you would be offended by this unless you are A) a troll who just wants to complain or B) have a child you don't think is any good. No travel coach is going to seek out bad players. They are looking for talent. But by all means, be offended if your child is ever approached. Reminder that Messi was discovered playing for fun on a beach. I guess that should have infuriated his parents as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Name one of these “reputable” clubs and give us a definition of what “reputable” means.

Did you just move here? There are 100 decent soccer orgs within a 20 minute drive of Valorland. BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, Burke, Manassas Soccer Club, NVSC, VSA, Herndon, PAC, Loudoun, VRSC...the list goes on and on.

Every club you listed (and those that are part of the “the list goes on and on”) are subject to the same criticisms

Could you link us to the 300 page complaint threads for all these other clubs, I must have missed them.

Same few trolls filling up 300 pages.

Anonymous wrote:I would be furious if some random Valor coach was sneaking around my child's rec practice trying to talk to them. That's extremely disturbing. We want nothing to do with such an unscrupulous organization.

I woud be offended if some Valor coach showed up and insulted my kid with a hard sell on playing for his sh!tty fifth level travel team. If my kid wanted to play travel, I would take him to tryouts to make an actual real team. No need to insult kids--and the 5th team is an insult-- just trying to enjoy their rec practices.

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Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Name one of these “reputable” clubs and give us a definition of what “reputable” means.

Did you just move here? There are 100 decent soccer orgs within a 20 minute drive of Valorland. BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, Burke, Manassas Soccer Club, NVSC, VSA, Herndon, PAC, Loudoun, VRSC...the list goes on and on.

Every club you listed (and those that are part of the “the list goes on and on”) are subject to the same criticisms

Could you link us to the 300 page complaint threads for all these other clubs, I must have missed them.

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Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Name one of these “reputable” clubs and give us a definition of what “reputable” means.

Did you just move here? There are 100 decent soccer orgs within a 20 minute drive of Valorland. BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, Burke, Manassas Soccer Club, NVSC, VSA, Herndon, PAC, Loudoun, VRSC...the list goes on and on.

Every club you listed (and those that are part of the “the list goes on and on”) are subject to the same criticisms

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Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Name one of these “reputable” clubs and give us a definition of what “reputable” means.

Did you just move here? There are 100 decent soccer orgs within a 20 minute drive of Valorland. BRYC, FPYC, Vienna, SYC, Burke, Manassas Soccer Club, NVSC, VSA, Herndon, PAC, Loudoun, VRSC...the list goes on and on.