Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 17:15     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get twice the number of meets B meet swimmers do? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get to attend the extra special relay meets? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers can get more attention from coaches?


This is all true at our pool.

I didn’t realize there were pools where A meet swimmers weren’t allowed to swim in B meets. Our B meets are for everybody. But very few kids get to swim in the A meets.


If you score points in the A meet you are prohibited from swimming the b meet. They aren’t for everyone.


Our B meet rule is that if you placed 1st or 2nd in the A meet, you can swim one event that you didn’t swim on Saturday, but it’s unofficial (you cannot place at the B meet, but a good time would count for the ladder). If you placed 3rd you can swim 2 other events for place. Plenty of our top 2 finishers come to B meets to swim something, especially if IMs are an option.


We have a small pool. You can swim at both no issue.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 17:08     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?

Again, this isn’t the situation OP is complaining about. It’s the parents that go to every meet and mill around socializing but never volunteer. Those parents are freeloaders and they do suck.


Oh, well that is odd then.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 17:06     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?

Again, this isn’t the situation OP is complaining about. It’s the parents that go to every meet and mill around socializing but never volunteer. Those parents are freeloaders and they do suck.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 17:03     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get twice the number of meets B meet swimmers do? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get to attend the extra special relay meets? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers can get more attention from coaches?


This is all true at our pool.

I didn’t realize there were pools where A meet swimmers weren’t allowed to swim in B meets. Our B meets are for everybody. But very few kids get to swim in the A meets.


If you score points in the A meet you are prohibited from swimming the b meet. They aren’t for everyone.


Our B meet rule is that if you placed 1st or 2nd in the A meet, you can swim one event that you didn’t swim on Saturday, but it’s unofficial (you cannot place at the B meet, but a good time would count for the ladder). If you placed 3rd you can swim 2 other events for place. Plenty of our top 2 finishers come to B meets to swim something, especially if IMs are an option.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 17:03     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get twice the number of meets B meet swimmers do? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get to attend the extra special relay meets? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers can get more attention from coaches?


This is all true at our pool.

I didn’t realize there were pools where A meet swimmers weren’t allowed to swim in B meets. Our B meets are for everybody. But very few kids get to swim in the A meets.


If you score points in the A meet you are prohibited from swimming the b meet. They aren’t for everyone.

Is this an NVSL rule, and is it that you can’t do the B meet in the stroke you scored points for, or you can’t do the B meet period? My kid in MCSL swims B meets even if she scores points in the A meet. The only rule is that you can’t do the B meet in a stroke in which you are one of the top 2 on your team.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 16:33     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.


I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 16:26     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?


Enough with blaming the pandemic for poor behavior. OP did no such thing. Being a team, everyone helps out. We aren't talking about just one person who is the issue. And, most of them are just hanging out at the meets.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 16:25     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 16:20     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 16:16     Subject: Re:Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are there any volunteer jobs for introverts? This is stressing me out just to read about.


Computer assistant. But you occassionally have an annoying parent complaining to you about their kid's time.


Or do ribbons. Seriously, there is a job for everyone's needs.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 16:09     Subject: Re:Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm guessing the "competitive pool" poster is from a NVSL Division 1 pool, where they recruit swimmers and it is INTENSE.


Only Tuckahoe and Chesterbrook.


It’s off topic but I can’t let this slide. Overlee invented NVSL recruiting, and I imagine any number of upper division teams who don’t have geographic membership boundaries do it as well.


Swimmers for Overlee have to get through the regular, years long waitlist to swim for the team. There isn’t a special number to call to bypass the waitlist, team members “visiting from Maryland for the summer”, special swim team memberships, etc.


Nope, there’s a buried exception in their membership rules. Overlee does, however, have far better sportsmanship practices.


I would love to see that exception.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 15:55     Subject: Re:Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm guessing the "competitive pool" poster is from a NVSL Division 1 pool, where they recruit swimmers and it is INTENSE.


Only Tuckahoe and Chesterbrook.


It’s off topic but I can’t let this slide. Overlee invented NVSL recruiting, and I imagine any number of upper division teams who don’t have geographic membership boundaries do it as well.


Swimmers for Overlee have to get through the regular, years long waitlist to swim for the team. There isn’t a special number to call to bypass the waitlist, team members “visiting from Maryland for the summer”, special swim team memberships, etc.


Nope, there’s a buried exception in their membership rules. Overlee does, however, have far better sportsmanship practices.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 15:52     Subject: Re:Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm guessing the "competitive pool" poster is from a NVSL Division 1 pool, where they recruit swimmers and it is INTENSE.


Only Tuckahoe and Chesterbrook.


It’s off topic but I can’t let this slide. Overlee invented NVSL recruiting, and I imagine any number of upper division teams who don’t have geographic membership boundaries do it as well.


Swimmers for Overlee have to get through the regular, years long waitlist to swim for the team. There isn’t a special number to call to bypass the waitlist, team members “visiting from Maryland for the summer”, special swim team memberships, etc.


Is Overlee a pool with geographic boundaries? My guess is the poster was referring to the idea that you can be from any zip code and swim(as opposed to our pool where the bylaws require you to live in a certain geographic area). We notice a lot of club coaches coach for the non-boundaries pool and “recruit” the club swimmers who swim in the winter to swim for them in the summer.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 15:49     Subject: Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get twice the number of meets B meet swimmers do? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get to attend the extra special relay meets? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers can get more attention from coaches?


This is all true at our pool.

I didn’t realize there were pools where A meet swimmers weren’t allowed to swim in B meets. Our B meets are for everybody. But very few kids get to swim in the A meets.


If you score points in the A meet you are prohibited from swimming the b meet. They aren’t for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2021 13:49     Subject: Re:Freeloading swim team parents suck
Anonymous wrote:
I'm guessing the "competitive pool" poster is from a NVSL Division 1 pool, where they recruit swimmers and it is INTENSE.


Only Tuckahoe and Chesterbrook.


It’s off topic but I can’t let this slide. Overlee invented NVSL recruiting, and I imagine any number of upper division teams who don’t have geographic membership boundaries do it as well.


Swimmers for Overlee have to get through the regular, years long waitlist to swim for the team. There isn’t a special number to call to bypass the waitlist, team members “visiting from Maryland for the summer”, special swim team memberships, etc.