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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

In FCPS, we were told that 22 states are doing the same changes as Virginia. I think you are being naive in thinking they are unrelated.

There are VA section here you can talk about it on. Until it happens, stop creating drama.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

If you don't like it, feel free to go private or supplement. Many of us supplement. You can get free online resources or even dollar tree has workbooks.

Anonymous wrote:In FCPS, we were told that 22 states are doing the same changes as Virginia. I think you are being naive in thinking they are unrelated.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

In FCPS, we were told that 22 states are doing the same changes as Virginia. I think you are being naive in thinking they are unrelated.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

The curriculum has changed which would have happened regardless of covid as they are going to Eureka Math. Take to your school instead of speculating. Ours will offer the same classes next year. They just have different names to align with the new curriculum.

Rambling on about FCPS or other places is silly as it has nothing to do with MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

Our principal confirmed things are changing with compacted math. There will be revised criteria for going from 4/5 to 5/6. They are still waiting for the final guidance as it changed once already and may again. They confirmed it was MAP scores, grades, and test scores on math assessments. It is guidance, but they said it is important that kids don’t just automatically get pushed to the next level if compacted math.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

A whole bunch of posters have said things have changed, with compacted math. Are they wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

No, one has nothing to do with the other in this situation. MCPS at our middle school has said nothing changes, including compacted math so you are just stirring up trouble to get attention.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is headed by a woman now, but there's a paternalistic vibe that parents cannot possibly understand the complexity of their job leading a school district. To some extent that's true - managing such a large school district with such diverse needs is a big complicated job. For the most part, though, we can manage our own kids, and MCPS should not fall back on their paternalistic attitude for all, but rather should save the paternalism for the parents who need extra help.

Nah. They just get exhausted dealing with parents trying to micromanage the day to day operation of a large enterprise.

And yet, they continually just seemingly make things up as they go along without public communication until after the fact and then just barely.

How exactly are students determined eligible for the CES lottery and how is it run? Why is it that no one outside of MCPS knows the answer to this exactly precisely and why hasn't MCPS felt the need to communicate this with parents?

How do they plan to teach math next year if they did not cover a full year of curriculum this year? Why won't MCPS communicate this to parents?

It's really exhausting being an MCPS parent when they lack transparency about basic things.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

Anonymous wrote:Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.

Given that MCPS and FCPS are often compared with one another given the geographic proximity and similarish demographics, it make a lot of sense to look at what FCPS (and VA in general) is doing. Similarly, it also makes sense to keep an eye on the Pacific Northwest when it comes to county politics because MoCo hate to be out-woked be anyone. So if it's happening there, it'll be coming her very soon.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many states have education bureaucracy looking to eliminate advanced math in the name of equity.
All kids would be in the same class learning grade level subjects. No honors classes, and no accelerating forward by a year or more. Virginia was set to do this statewide, but they backed down for the moment with an election coming.
Looks like Maryland is doing it more behind the scenes.

Can you show any evidence to support these claims? Without evidence, this seems like fearmongering.

Look up VMPI for Virginia. AAP Forum here has been running a thread for 3 months on Virginia to eliminate advanced math.

You can find some detail on California by searching for 'Bill Evers WSJ math'. There is an LA Times article and some WSJ editorials within the past few weeks.

VMPI says there is a 22 state consortium pursuing this. Their website has links to papers arguing the need to eliminate tracking.

When someone sent them an e-mail asking them to confirm they would eliminate tracking, the response was

The Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative proposals support the vision that all students are capable of making sense of and persevering in solving challenging mathematics problems and should be expected to do so. Many more students, regardless of gender, ethnicity, and socioeconomic status, need to be given the support, confidence, and opportunities to reach much higher levels of mathematical success and interest. VMPI proposals do promote equity and that the practice of isolating low-achieving students in low-level or slower-paced mathematics groups should be eliminated.

Sincerely,
Tina Mazzacane
K-12 Mathematics Coordinator
Virginia Department of Education

You are posting in the wrong group. This is about MCPS and they have stated they are keeping accelerated math. Our principal in MS said they are keeping the different levels. We are not VA or CA so posting what they are doing isn't helpful. Everyone is speculating. They aren't going to get rid of compacted math.

Today. Or Right now. Or because they got cAught trying.

And I understand the problem of low expectations that groups like the one in Virginia are trying to solve. But you make those kids the high flyers too. You give them extra instruction, support and encouragement. You act in loco parent is. It is not a solution to hold the high performers down so that they create behavior problems for the teachers who are trying to do that. And you buy yourself different inequity as people hire math tutors, or sign up for Russian School of Math or Dr Ali. Thanks again Ugh - MCPS - make decisions for our community. Don’t blindly follow the educational community flavor of the month.

What are you rambling about? There hasn't been any changes made to math. And, many of us just supplement with a few workbooks in ES. You don't need to pay for tutors or any of that stuff. You talking about VA for MCPS makes zero sense.