Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 08:57     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:The immersion seats at every school could still be lottery. Just lottery within that school’s Boundary.
That way all kids have they possibility to lottery into an immersion class at their school.


That's not what they're doing. What you're talking about would be fundamentally unworkable and prohibitively expensive.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 08:55     Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Sounds like dual immersion isn’t dual. If the Latin American community is not interested in dual immersion, why don’t we consider something evidence based like full immersion?

This issue does not directly impact my family, but I know several native speakers that did not attempt the lottery for the above reason. These are families that speak and are literate in both languages.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 08:51     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


I still have no idea what you are talking about. That’s not at all what they had before 2017. It’s a two way immersion school and was that way before 2017.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 08:49     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

The immersion seats at every school could still be lottery. Just lottery within that school’s Boundary.
That way all kids have they possibility to lottery into an immersion class at their school.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 08:49     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


But the lottery for immersion spots will remain open to all without geographic preferences (but with certain groups of schools assigned to each lottery location)?


There is simply no way this is true. This would violate the options/transfers policy the Board put in place just a few years ago. They very deliberately got rid of neighborhood preference for option schools. There is no way they are going to create a special Key zone that is allowed to choose either immersion or neighborhood, while the rest of APS has to lottery into an immersion program.
There is a slight possibility that they are considering 'phasing out' immersion at Key. e.g. they will leave a few classes of 4th and 5th grade immersion, and everything below that will be lottery.


Well the whole mess was caused by the updates options/transfer policy they put in place, and they have the unhappy task of moving immersion from Key completely or doing this hybrid and planting immersion in other schools to meet demand and located where ELL live.

The east part of county needs more seats, I’m sure school board will entertain your solution, but they are trying to get those seats without disrupting existing classes.


Funny how people in the eastern part of the county are so concerned about their own children not being disrupted, yet have zero such concern about other kids when they blithely pronounce that Nottingham should be made an option school so immersion can go to ATS rather than Carlin Springs.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 08:45     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anybody have the draft boundaries?
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 07:57     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


But the lottery for immersion spots will remain open to all without geographic preferences (but with certain groups of schools assigned to each lottery location)?


There is simply no way this is true. This would violate the options/transfers policy the Board put in place just a few years ago. They very deliberately got rid of neighborhood preference for option schools. There is no way they are going to create a special Key zone that is allowed to choose either immersion or neighborhood, while the rest of APS has to lottery into an immersion program.
There is a slight possibility that they are considering 'phasing out' immersion at Key. e.g. they will leave a few classes of 4th and 5th grade immersion, and everything below that will be lottery.


Well the whole mess was caused by the updates options/transfer policy they put in place, and they have the unhappy task of moving immersion from Key completely or doing this hybrid and planting immersion in other schools to meet demand and located where ELL live.

The east part of county needs more seats, I’m sure school board will entertain your solution, but they are trying to get those seats without disrupting existing classes.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 07:46     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


But the lottery for immersion spots will remain open to all without geographic preferences (but with certain groups of schools assigned to each lottery location)?


There is simply no way this is true. This would violate the options/transfers policy the Board put in place just a few years ago. They very deliberately got rid of neighborhood preference for option schools. There is no way they are going to create a special Key zone that is allowed to choose either immersion or neighborhood, while the rest of APS has to lottery into an immersion program.
There is a slight possibility that they are considering 'phasing out' immersion at Key. e.g. they will leave a few classes of 4th and 5th grade immersion, and everything below that will be lottery.


I don’t personally think this is a good idea but have heard separate rumors that corroborate the idea of adding immersion to several neighborhood schools.


But I am asking if those immersion classrooms would be filed through a lottery or if the kids who happen to live in those schools zones suddenly get guaranteed access to immersion if they wanted it.


DP. The school board talked about this idea last fall, that one way to manage the increased demand for immersion might be to have one immersion class at each grade level at elementary schools that have capacity for it rather than turning an entire neighborhood school into an option school. All of those immersion seats would still be lottery, though, with no neighborhood preference. I don't know if there's any truth to the other boundary rumors being discussed above.
Anonymous
Post 06/02/2019 07:44     Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

so APS staff will basically entertain any idea, not matter how off the wall. Note the guy who routinely gets people to engage in making all schools immersion.

That being said- the way APS initially created Claremont was to put immersion classrooms in several schools- Oakridge, Abingdon, and I'm forgetting the 3rd, and then eventually consolidated them into Claremont. It's not a bad way to go an immersion program. It works better when you have lots of space. When APS created those immersion classrooms, there was enough room for everyone who wanted immersion and the classrooms were not supplanting neighborhood seats.

There is strong interest in the english speaking immersion community in creating a 3rd elementary school. As part of the South Arlington boundary process last year, APS staff worked on a plan to put a couple of Kindergarten immersion classrooms in another school and bring Claremont down to 4 K's instead of 6 but they never even presented the plan b/c they said it was too complicated. It is a little difficult to say what the best thing to do with immersion is. On the pro immersion side 1) there is significant evidence to support that ELL do better when taught in their own language, and so immersion helps with the goal of closing the achievement gap; 2) there is a long waiting list for immersion on the english side so it also helps with integration. On the anti-immersion side; 1) there is not demand from the ELL for immersion- APS struggles to fill those slots, and it is unclear how they would fill them if the opened up a 3rd school.

I think that the type of competing interests above is part of the reason for doing the instructional pathways- what does APS want to offer and how does it fit into the plan?

Given that proximity matters so much- I can see why putting some immersion classes at Randolph/ Carlin Springs, possibly Barrett would have a significant appeal. But I think ultimately that concerns about equitable access and not wanting to let people 'buy' an option will win out.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2019 22:55     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


But the lottery for immersion spots will remain open to all without geographic preferences (but with certain groups of schools assigned to each lottery location)?


There is simply no way this is true. This would violate the options/transfers policy the Board put in place just a few years ago. They very deliberately got rid of neighborhood preference for option schools. There is no way they are going to create a special Key zone that is allowed to choose either immersion or neighborhood, while the rest of APS has to lottery into an immersion program.
There is a slight possibility that they are considering 'phasing out' immersion at Key. e.g. they will leave a few classes of 4th and 5th grade immersion, and everything below that will be lottery.


I don’t personally think this is a good idea but have heard separate rumors that corroborate the idea of adding immersion to several neighborhood schools.


But I am asking if those immersion classrooms would be filed through a lottery or if the kids who happen to live in those schools zones suddenly get guaranteed access to immersion if they wanted it.


Unclear at this time from what I have heard. But I have only heard snippets.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2019 22:50     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


But the lottery for immersion spots will remain open to all without geographic preferences (but with certain groups of schools assigned to each lottery location)?


There is simply no way this is true. This would violate the options/transfers policy the Board put in place just a few years ago. They very deliberately got rid of neighborhood preference for option schools. There is no way they are going to create a special Key zone that is allowed to choose either immersion or neighborhood, while the rest of APS has to lottery into an immersion program.
There is a slight possibility that they are considering 'phasing out' immersion at Key. e.g. they will leave a few classes of 4th and 5th grade immersion, and everything below that will be lottery.


I don’t personally think this is a good idea but have heard separate rumors that corroborate the idea of adding immersion to several neighborhood schools.


But I am asking if those immersion classrooms would be filed through a lottery or if the kids who happen to live in those schools zones suddenly get guaranteed access to immersion if they wanted it.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2019 22:40     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


But the lottery for immersion spots will remain open to all without geographic preferences (but with certain groups of schools assigned to each lottery location)?


There is simply no way this is true. This would violate the options/transfers policy the Board put in place just a few years ago. They very deliberately got rid of neighborhood preference for option schools. There is no way they are going to create a special Key zone that is allowed to choose either immersion or neighborhood, while the rest of APS has to lottery into an immersion program.
There is a slight possibility that they are considering 'phasing out' immersion at Key. e.g. they will leave a few classes of 4th and 5th grade immersion, and everything below that will be lottery.


I don’t personally think this is a good idea but have heard separate rumors that corroborate the idea of adding immersion to several neighborhood schools.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2019 21:09     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


But the lottery for immersion spots will remain open to all without geographic preferences (but with certain groups of schools assigned to each lottery location)?


There is simply no way this is true. This would violate the options/transfers policy the Board put in place just a few years ago. They very deliberately got rid of neighborhood preference for option schools. There is no way they are going to create a special Key zone that is allowed to choose either immersion or neighborhood, while the rest of APS has to lottery into an immersion program.
There is a slight possibility that they are considering 'phasing out' immersion at Key. e.g. they will leave a few classes of 4th and 5th grade immersion, and everything below that will be lottery.
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2019 21:06     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.


But the lottery for immersion spots will remain open to all without geographic preferences (but with certain groups of schools assigned to each lottery location)?
Anonymous
Post 06/01/2019 20:14     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s June. Pathways will come this month?

I heard from a teacher that staff have already decided to return Key to neighborhood status, keep immersion there, and add immersion at another neighborhood school?

And preliminary No Arlington boundaries with Reed built and ASFS within its own zone are already laid out.

Any way to see those new boundaries?


Key will be a neighborhood immersion school? I’m not following.


It will be neighborhood, and some classes per grade will have immersion option depending on student preference. Kind of what they had before 2017 except now an option for non-immersion at Key so no need to transfer to ASFS.