Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:54     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many Senators have already left town and are not planning on returning before the 3rd. Many Representatives have left town and, for those who are not in the next Congress, are likely not coming back, so the House will be short votes anyhow.

Either Trump signs this before he leaves for Mar-A-Lago, or else he will live with optics of his fun in the sun while the government is 'closed."


Worse than that. Interior isn’t funded. So all the Americans headed to federal parks for Christmas just had their plans cancelled. Plus the Smithsonian, the national monuments, etc. While Trump golfs and the secret service guards him, but does not get paid. It does not get any more “let them eat cake” than that.

Remember the 2013 shutdown where the 90 year old WWII vets were not able to see the memorial? Now imagine if on top of that, it was peak tourist season in lots of the national parks. And Obama was in Hawaii golfing and ignoring the problem. And was proudly calling it the obama shutdown. The blowback will be ugly.


Obama wouldnt sign it because it wasn't a clean budget but revoked Obamacare. Americans like Obamacare; he was absolutely right not to let Republicans put poison pills in the budget.


This. Obama had the concerns of the people to consider. This is a selfish move for Trump’s ego. Besides, stiffing the people protecting / working for him is what he has done for years.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:51     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fake news. Don't worry. Trump doesn't have the balls to shut the government down and then go on vacation. He's just putting on a show.


This whole disaster of a "presidency" is nothing but a show -- and a really, really bad one.

That said, he will go to Mar-a-Lago no matter what. They'll just spin it as the "Southern White House."


Like when Obama and Michelle took two planes to Hawaii and then Obama had to fly back from Hawaii to prevent shutdown?


At least he came back.

Trump wouldn't even go out to pay respect to veterans because of the rain. Don't even.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:50     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Yes yes! Stop the elites. We need a teddy to bust the 1%. Let them complain to cnn all they want. People that have not Been fired will never understand the anger. Hillary never did !

Democrats would rather protect Silicon Valley and Silicon Valley will continue to sell peoples data while lying and going to the bank.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:40     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fake news. Don't worry. Trump doesn't have the balls to shut the government down and then go on vacation. He's just putting on a show.


This whole disaster of a "presidency" is nothing but a show -- and a really, really bad one.

That said, he will go to Mar-a-Lago no matter what. They'll just spin it as the "Southern White House."


Like when Obama and Michelle took two planes to Hawaii and then Obama had to fly back from Hawaii to prevent shutdown?
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:38     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fake news. Don't worry. Trump doesn't have the balls to shut the government down and then go on vacation. He's just putting on a show.


This whole disaster of a "presidency" is nothing but a show -- and a really, really bad one.

That said, he will go to Mar-a-Lago no matter what. They'll just spin it as the "Southern White House."

I like to think of it as “Future Seized Asset.”
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:35     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:Fake news. Don't worry. Trump doesn't have the balls to shut the government down and then go on vacation. He's just putting on a show.


This whole disaster of a "presidency" is nothing but a show -- and a really, really bad one.

That said, he will go to Mar-a-Lago no matter what. They'll just spin it as the "Southern White House."
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:35     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many Senators have already left town and are not planning on returning before the 3rd. Many Representatives have left town and, for those who are not in the next Congress, are likely not coming back, so the House will be short votes anyhow.

Either Trump signs this before he leaves for Mar-A-Lago, or else he will live with optics of his fun in the sun while the government is 'closed."


Worse than that. Interior isn’t funded. So all the Americans headed to federal parks for Christmas just had their plans cancelled. Plus the Smithsonian, the national monuments, etc. While Trump golfs and the secret service guards him, but does not get paid. It does not get any more “let them eat cake” than that.

Remember the 2013 shutdown where the 90 year old WWII vets were not able to see the memorial? Now imagine if on top of that, it was peak tourist season in lots of the national parks. And Obama was in Hawaii golfing and ignoring the problem. And was proudly calling it the obama shutdown. The blowback will be ugly.


Obama wouldnt sign it because it wasn't a clean budget but revoked Obamacare. Americans like Obamacare; he was absolutely right not to let Republicans put poison pills in the budget.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:32     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many Senators have already left town and are not planning on returning before the 3rd. Many Representatives have left town and, for those who are not in the next Congress, are likely not coming back, so the House will be short votes anyhow.

Either Trump signs this before he leaves for Mar-A-Lago, or else he will live with optics of his fun in the sun while the government is 'closed."


I bet he signs, but tune in tomorrow for this exciting season of the Apprentice (to Putin) President.


I think he will probably sign something tomorrow night, but only if the House passes something to give to him. So far, the House doesn't know what their doing. And the Senate has already left town.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:31     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Many Senators have already left town and are not planning on returning before the 3rd. Many Representatives have left town and, for those who are not in the next Congress, are likely not coming back, so the House will be short votes anyhow.

Either Trump signs this before he leaves for Mar-A-Lago, or else he will live with optics of his fun in the sun while the government is 'closed."


Worse than that. Interior isn’t funded. So all the Americans headed to federal parks for Christmas just had their plans cancelled. Plus the Smithsonian, the national monuments, etc. While Trump golfs and the secret service guards him, but does not get paid. It does not get any more “let them eat cake” than that.

Remember the 2013 shutdown where the 90 year old WWII vets were not able to see the memorial? Now imagine if on top of that, it was peak tourist season in lots of the national parks. And Obama was in Hawaii golfing and ignoring the problem. And was proudly calling it the obama shutdown. The blowback will be ugly.


I thought the Rs were so mad about that they made some special rule that parks wouldn't be closed off during a shutdown. It resulted in lots of damage to parks, since there were no Rangers keeping people in line.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:30     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:Many Senators have already left town and are not planning on returning before the 3rd. Many Representatives have left town and, for those who are not in the next Congress, are likely not coming back, so the House will be short votes anyhow.

Either Trump signs this before he leaves for Mar-A-Lago, or else he will live with optics of his fun in the sun while the government is 'closed."


I bet he signs, but tune in tomorrow for this exciting season of the Apprentice (to Putin) President.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:27     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:Many Senators have already left town and are not planning on returning before the 3rd. Many Representatives have left town and, for those who are not in the next Congress, are likely not coming back, so the House will be short votes anyhow.

Either Trump signs this before he leaves for Mar-A-Lago, or else he will live with optics of his fun in the sun while the government is 'closed."


Worse than that. Interior isn’t funded. So all the Americans headed to federal parks for Christmas just had their plans cancelled. Plus the Smithsonian, the national monuments, etc. While Trump golfs and the secret service guards him, but does not get paid. It does not get any more “let them eat cake” than that.

Remember the 2013 shutdown where the 90 year old WWII vets were not able to see the memorial? Now imagine if on top of that, it was peak tourist season in lots of the national parks. And Obama was in Hawaii golfing and ignoring the problem. And was proudly calling it the obama shutdown. The blowback will be ugly.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:21     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:So Trump was goaded into shutting down the government by Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh without any leverage? Right before Christmas? When we have him on tape owning it? LMAO.


Yet another thing Hillary was right about: A POTUS whom you can “bait with a tweet” is an unmitigated disaster. Good lord!
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:18     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How ironic, the Border Patrol won't be paid because of the shutdown. I thought Trump was all hoooah about the border?


I am confident the Border Patrol would gladly take the hit for this one, unlike our lazy ass government workers. The Border Patrol understands the need for this far better than you or I, afterall they already make sacrifices everyday to cover for congress's pathetic selfish fools.


It’s nice of you to agree to sacrifice someone else’s paycheck. Unless it is your mortgage payment on the line, and you are the one looking at losing your house, or not being able to afford food or healthcare, sit down and STFU.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:17     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:So Trump was goaded into shutting down the government by Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh without any leverage? Right before Christmas? When we have him on tape owning it? LMAO.


Yes, and the Dems will just pass a budget/CR in January. Will he really veto it?

What is the plan here, the strategy? Do Coulter and Limbaugh have a plan?
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2018 14:15     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Many Senators have already left town and are not planning on returning before the 3rd. Many Representatives have left town and, for those who are not in the next Congress, are likely not coming back, so the House will be short votes anyhow.

Either Trump signs this before he leaves for Mar-A-Lago, or else he will live with optics of his fun in the sun while the government is 'closed."