Anonymous
09/11/2018 07:30
Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/09/serena-williams-2018-us-open-code-violations/76875/
What a load of sexist bullshit. They couldn’t just leave it at attacking her as a player, they had to attack her as a mother too? That writer is a piece of garbage.
At this point people are just going in for the kill to get clicks and views. Most of the people responding to articles and tweeting and posting about this don't even watch tennis.
Everyone wants to put Serena in her place.
When people have so much hatred for someone they don’t even know or even watch play tennis regularly then there is something else going on. Athletes go off on umpires all the time and nobody pays attention.
Why is this different?
yes, a lot of people commenting on this even never watch tennis. but most of them are cluelessly supporting serena doing nobody a favor. serena had a tantrum and it would not have been a big deal if a bunch of idiots didn't try to make her a hero because of it. that is what is drawing the reaction, not her calling an umpire a thief (which, to reiterate, on its own wouldn't even carry a point penalty).
Anonymous
09/11/2018 07:02
Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, help me out here... I just watched the video and obviously she was very upset yelling how she doesn't cheat, it's not fair...etc. Didn't her coach confessed about the game that he was coaching her? If so, she not only cheated, but also lied??
she probably didn't see his signs. but as Navratilova explained, the player is responsible for her coach's signs.
Martina’s article was great, but Serena will ignore it as she’s surrounded by enablers. I won’t watch her any longer.
She's the only reason you (and many others) watch women's tennis. Like her or not, you'll keep watching as long as she's around.
No, i used to love women's tennis in the time of Evert, Navratilova, Graf and Seles. I more or less lost interest when the Williams were dominating the game because the matches were too lobsided.
I know, how dare those black women come in and be better than everyone else. Don’t they know their place?
The problem with people like you is that you will accuse anyone of being a racist anytime they accuse a black person of anything, regardless of whether it was warranted. You’re just as bad as genuine racists because you only see one side of any issue and you’re intractable and blind to the facts.
Anonymous
09/11/2018 06:43
Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, help me out here... I just watched the video and obviously she was very upset yelling how she doesn't cheat, it's not fair...etc. Didn't her coach confessed about the game that he was coaching her? If so, she not only cheated, but also lied??
she probably didn't see his signs. but as Navratilova explained, the player is responsible for her coach's signs.
Martina’s article was great, but Serena will ignore it as she’s surrounded by enablers. I won’t watch her any longer.
She's the only reason you (and many others) watch women's tennis. Like her or not, you'll keep watching as long as she's around.
No, i used to love women's tennis in the time of Evert, Navratilova, Graf and Seles. I more or less lost interest when the Williams were dominating the game because the matches were too lobsided.
I know, how dare those black women come in and be better than everyone else. Don’t they know their place?
Nope, try again. I couldn’t care less if they were black, white, yellow, or even green for that matter. What I didn’t enjoy was the mostly one-sided matches they played. Nothing against them as players, obviously, because they were that great, but to me it was boring to watch these 6-1, 6-0 matches. I’d rather watch a well contested match than one with a 99% known outcome.
Anonymous
09/11/2018 06:40
Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, help me out here... I just watched the video and obviously she was very upset yelling how she doesn't cheat, it's not fair...etc. Didn't her coach confessed about the game that he was coaching her? If so, she not only cheated, but also lied??
she probably didn't see his signs. but as Navratilova explained, the player is responsible for her coach's signs.
Martina’s article was great, but Serena will ignore it as she’s surrounded by enablers. I won’t watch her any longer.
She's the only reason you (and many others) watch women's tennis. Like her or not, you'll keep watching as long as she's around.
No, i used to love women's tennis in the time of Evert, Navratilova, Graf and Seles. I more or less lost interest when the Williams were dominating the game because the matches were too lobsided.
I know, how dare those black women come in and be better than everyone else. Don’t they know their place?
You are full of some kind of vitriol. Why? The winner was a black woman amidst dozens upon dozens of white WTA players. I think what pp above is saying is that when Williams sisters started winning everything, tennis got boring. Men's tennis is facing the same lack of new good players, it is constantly 3 of them. We watch sports for excitement, unexpected victory, and we had that on Saturday, and the poor girl got told by USTA President Katrina Adams, also AA woman, "not the result we were hoping for." If you are on Serena's side fine, but please chime in if you think that was perfectly fine to be told during the trophy ceremony?
Anonymous
09/11/2018 00:55
Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She had every right to be upset. Men have been allowed to have tantrums with no penalties. They change their shirt on the court with no penalties. Yet a woman gets upset or changes her shirt, and they’re penalized.
Serena is a queen. Naomi is a queen.
You don't see the difference between a woman changing her shirt on the court and a man?
When the woman is wearing a sports bra underneath? No, it's not different.
Yeah, I can’t believe we’re still having this discussion 19 years after Brandi Chastain ripped off her jersey and celebrated her soccer joy in her sports bra.
God, I hate sexism.
And racism.
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:49
Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She had every right to be upset. Men have been allowed to have tantrums with no penalties. They change their shirt on the court with no penalties. Yet a woman gets upset or changes her shirt, and they’re penalized.
Serena is a queen. Naomi is a queen.
You don't see the difference between a woman changing her shirt on the court and a man?
No, especially with a sports bra.
Btw a man changed his shorts also ... you okay with that?
Just to be clear, since a lot of people seem to be commenting without having watched, the guy changing his shorts did not do it on the court. He ran off to a private changing area.
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:40
Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/09/serena-williams-2018-us-open-code-violations/76875/
What a load of sexist bullshit. They couldn’t just leave it at attacking her as a player, they had to attack her as a mother too? That writer is a piece of garbage.
At this point people are just going in for the kill to get clicks and views. Most of the people responding to articles and tweeting and posting about this don't even watch tennis.
Everyone wants to put Serena in her place.
When people have so much hatred for someone they don’t even know or even watch play tennis regularly then there is something else going on. Athletes go off on umpires all the time and nobody pays attention.
Why is this different?
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:29
Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, help me out here... I just watched the video and obviously she was very upset yelling how she doesn't cheat, it's not fair...etc. Didn't her coach confessed about the game that he was coaching her? If so, she not only cheated, but also lied??
she probably didn't see his signs. but as Navratilova explained, the player is responsible for her coach's signs.
Martina’s article was great, but Serena will ignore it as she’s surrounded by enablers. I won’t watch her any longer.
She's the only reason you (and many others) watch women's tennis. Like her or not, you'll keep watching as long as she's around.
No, i used to love women's tennis in the time of Evert, Navratilova, Graf and Seles. I more or less lost interest when the Williams were dominating the game because the matches were too lobsided.
I know, how dare those black women come in and be better than everyone else. Don’t they know their place?
Jesus Christ, not everything is about race!
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:28
Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2018/09/serena-williams-2018-us-open-code-violations/76875/
What a load of sexist bullshit. They couldn’t just leave it at attacking her as a player, they had to attack her as a mother too? That writer is a piece of garbage.
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:25
Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, help me out here... I just watched the video and obviously she was very upset yelling how she doesn't cheat, it's not fair...etc. Didn't her coach confessed about the game that he was coaching her? If so, she not only cheated, but also lied??
she probably didn't see his signs. but as Navratilova explained, the player is responsible for her coach's signs.
Martina’s article was great, but Serena will ignore it as she’s surrounded by enablers. I won’t watch her any longer.
She's the only reason you (and many others) watch women's tennis. Like her or not, you'll keep watching as long as she's around.
No, i used to love women's tennis in the time of Evert, Navratilova, Graf and Seles. I more or less lost interest when the Williams were dominating the game because the matches were too lobsided.
I know, how dare those black women come in and be better than everyone else. Don’t they know their place?
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:20
Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:18
Subject: Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, help me out here... I just watched the video and obviously she was very upset yelling how she doesn't cheat, it's not fair...etc. Didn't her coach confessed about the game that he was coaching her? If so, she not only cheated, but also lied??
she probably didn't see his signs. but as Navratilova explained, the player is responsible for her coach's signs.
Martina’s article was great, but Serena will ignore it as she’s surrounded by enablers. I won’t watch her any longer.
She's the only reason you (and many others) watch women's tennis. Like her or not, you'll keep watching as long as she's around.
No, i used to love women's tennis in the time of Evert, Navratilova, Graf and Seles. I more or less lost interest when the Williams were dominating the game because the matches were too lobsided.
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:15
Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/tennis/martina-navratilova-what-serena-got-wrong/ar-BBN9mhY[url]
For all those arguing about the double standard, read this and you will know that you need to watch it to see it. She got the warning early in the second set and not much came out of it. She continued to play. When she lost another game and was down 3-1, she smashed her raquet and got a violation, which is standard and not discretionary. After that the tantrum came on full blown calling back to coaching that was already done and in the past. She had a tantrum because she was losing, plain and simple. She never got a point deducted for coaching. If she is that outraged why didn't she immediately have a tantrum?
The article says they need to look into the sexism it does not say it does not exist.
Exactly, but not by screaming on the court.
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:13
Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/tennis/martina-navratilova-what-serena-got-wrong/ar-BBN9mhY[url]
For all those arguing about the double standard, read this and you will know that you need to watch it to see it. She got the warning early in the second set and not much came out of it. She continued to play. When she lost another game and was down 3-1, she smashed her raquet and got a violation, which is standard and not discretionary. After that the tantrum came on full blown calling back to coaching that was already done and in the past. She had a tantrum because she was losing, plain and simple. She never got a point deducted for coaching. If she is that outraged why didn't she immediately have a tantrum?
umm.. this is what some of us have been explaining throughout the thread. some posters simply refused to listen and insist that she was docked a game merely because she dared challenge the umpire.
The article literally says that men act that way and get away with it but she doesn't think men should get away with it.
What some are explaining is that if men get to challenge the umpire so do women. If women don't then men don't.
It's not that complicated, make a rule and execute it equally.
Article doesn't say that exactly. It says that men are frequently given a warning for coaching and they fuss and shut up. The article does state that there might be a double standard that needs to be addressed but this was not about coaching. And on court when losing was not the time, plus what does her smashing raquet has to do with previous warning? Why did she not go nuts right then?
Anonymous
09/10/2018 22:06
Subject: Re:Serena is a bully and a crybaby
Anonymous wrote:WTA CEO is on her side, issued a statement that:
“Yesterday also brought to the forefront the question of whether different standards are applied to men and women in the officiating of matches. The WTA believes that there should be no difference in the standards of tolerance provided to the emotions expressed by men vs. women and is committed to working with the sport to ensure that all players are treated the same. We do not believe that this was done last night.”
big deal. WTA is always gonna to bat for Serena. Serena is many times more powerful than Carlos Ramos.