OP,
What happened? Was your child placed into LLIV by the Principal?
Just curious...

Anonymous wrote:This whole posting makes me sad because it illustrates how desperate many parents are to ensure that their kids are NOT in general education. That is not a great view to have about the main education program for such a huge county. In my experience, OPs "drama" has been playing out with nearly every second grade family I know and we are at a supposedly great school. FCPS needs to deal with this. IMHO, AAP should be replaced with real GT (truly gifted isn't 20 percent of a class) and the AAP resources redirected back to educating the majority of kids. The current situation is a perversion of resources in every way. And it is the reason we are heading to private and not looking back.

Do you really think OP's child isn't the top of FCPS with a 160 score and a 148 WISC?

BTW, gifted kids get less money than others. Class sizes are larger and there is no additional teacher. The only gifted kids who get extra money are the ones who get level 3 services. FCPS took a look at the bussing for gifted kids and whether or not to take it out and the cost analysis came out at zero. So with no bussing cost and higher class sizes, AAP kids get the least amount of resources of all FCPS kids.

This whole posting makes me sad because it illustrates how desperate many parents are to ensure that their kids are NOT in general education. That is not a great view to have about the main education program for such a huge county. In my experience, OPs "drama" has been playing out with nearly every second grade family I know and we are at a supposedly great school. FCPS needs to deal with this. IMHO, AAP should be replaced with real GT (truly gifted isn't 20 percent of a class) and the AAP resources redirected back to educating the majority of kids. The current situation is a perversion of resources in every way. And it is the reason we are heading to private and not looking back.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here

No we cannot afford another year in private school

We don’t know what else to do next

Please stop the drama. Your kid will go to Floris and be perfectly fine. He’ll be surrounded by nice kids who will be just as smart. He’ll have a great teacher who will provide great learning experiences for him. If you’re still desperate for him to be in an AAP center, you can apply again.

+10000

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The principal is your pal. The principal is the one who can place kids in the Level IV class, it is not a matter of principle.

Actually, is is a committee at the local school even though it is called principal placed.

PP was just being snarky about the spelling mistake. Doesn't every kid learn that the principal is your pal?

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Anonymous wrote:
The principal is your pal. The principal is the one who can place kids in the Level IV class, it is not a matter of principle.

Actually, is is a committee at the local school even though it is called principal placed.

PP was just being snarky about the spelling mistake. Doesn't every kid learn that the principal is your pal?

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Anonymous wrote:Op here

No we cannot afford another year in private school

We don’t know what else to do next

Floris ES has local level IV. What you do next is send your kid to Floris, and sometime at the end of this school year or over the summer, meet with the principal to discuss principal placing your child in a LLIV classroom.

To OP honestly I think with all you have shared about your child he will be identified very quickly by the school and more than likely placed. We had this happen coming in from private school. He was identified by the school after the beginning year math assessment. They placed him in the local level iv for math after two weeks. He was then given the CoGAT and NNAT in October and moved in full time in January after the results came back.
You are a step a head because they will look at his results and more than likely place him in ASAP.
My son also received level iii (pull out) for everything else until they moved him in full time.
Your son's teachers will notice quickly that he is above the Gen ed. Trust me...they move them where they belong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

No we cannot afford another year in private school

We don’t know what else to do next

Floris ES has local level IV. What you do next is send your kid to Floris, and sometime at the end of this school year or over the summer, meet with the principal to discuss principal placing your child in a LLIV classroom.

Agree! OP, can you transfer your child to Floris now so that by the end of school year Floris teachers would have a very good understanding of your child to assure he gets "principle placement" in the local level IV classroom for 3rd grade? Then next year you can apply for 4th grade center level IV AAP? Be strong and advocate for your child. He will shine!

The principal is your pal. The principal is the one who can place kids in the Level IV class, it is not a matter of principle.

Actually, is is a committee at the local school even though it is called principal placed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

No we cannot afford another year in private school

We don’t know what else to do next

Floris ES has local level IV. What you do next is send your kid to Floris, and sometime at the end of this school year or over the summer, meet with the principal to discuss principal placing your child in a LLIV classroom.

Agree! OP, can you transfer your child to Floris now so that by the end of school year Floris teachers would have a very good understanding of your child to assure he gets "principle placement" in the local level IV classroom for 3rd grade? Then next year you can apply for 4th grade center level IV AAP? Be strong and advocate for your child. He will shine!

The principal is your pal. The principal is the one who can place kids in the Level IV class, it is not a matter of principle.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

No we cannot afford another year in private school

We don’t know what else to do next

Please stop the drama. Your kid will go to Floris and be perfectly fine. He’ll be surrounded by nice kids who will be just as smart. He’ll have a great teacher who will provide great learning experiences for him. If you’re still desperate for him to be in an AAP center, you can apply again.

Agree. It seems like total bs that DC didn’t get in with those scores, but a little perspective is needed here. My DC is in 3rd grade gen ed at a center school and is excelling academically. I referred again this year, but if it doesn’t work out, there are plenty of decent teachers and fellow students in gen ed. And there’s nothing stopping these kids from rising to the top in high school if they’re motivated.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here

No we cannot afford another year in private school

We don’t know what else to do next

Floris ES has local level IV. What you do next is send your kid to Floris, and sometime at the end of this school year or over the summer, meet with the principal to discuss principal placing your child in a LLIV classroom.

Agree! OP, can you transfer your child to Floris now so that by the end of school year Floris teachers would have a very good understanding of your child to assure he gets "principle placement" in the local level IV classroom for 3rd grade? Then next year you can apply for 4th grade center level IV AAP? Be strong and advocate for your child. He will shine!

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Anonymous wrote:Op here

Got a response that scores are just one of many data points and each file is holistically examined by multiple people. And this decision is final for this year. Also mentioned that I am free to apply in next screening cycle

Honestly with those scores I would raise hell.

OP has already appealed and has already spoken to several people regarding the appeal. They've advised her to apply again next year. Now her DC can go to 3rd grade and apply again next year.

The sad part about this is that AAP is just accelerated academically, not a gifted program, so FCPS saying that her parent package didn't sufficiently show giftedness is a farce. How about giving kids the appropriate academic challenge and stop this nonsense of having to show "giftedness" via parent submissions. Having said that, OP, I think your kid will still have a decent peer group in gen ed at Floris. Just make sure your DC is in the accelerated math track.

Anonymous wrote:Op here

No we cannot afford another year in private school

We don’t know what else to do next

Floris ES has local level IV. What you do next is send your kid to Floris, and sometime at the end of this school year or over the summer, meet with the principal to discuss principal placing your child in a LLIV classroom.