Anonymous
04/10/2017 17:30
Subject: Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Border arrests at an all time low?
Then maybe we don't need as many border patrol agents. We should lay 25% of them off.
Then maybe we don't need as many border patrol agents. We should lay 25% of them off.
Anonymous
04/10/2017 17:18
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finally we'll see real positive change. Thankfully the best candidate did win. Border arrests are the lowest in 17 years, stock market is doing well. Obama and Hillary equal NO Change.
Exactly.
Why, Bless your heart
Anonymous
04/10/2017 16:39
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finally we'll see real positive change. Thankfully the best candidate did win. Border arrests are the lowest in 17 years, stock market is doing well. Obama and Hillary equal NO Change.
Exactly.
Haha.
Anonymous
04/10/2017 16:11
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Finally we'll see real positive change. Thankfully the best candidate did win. Border arrests are the lowest in 17 years, stock market is doing well. Obama and Hillary equal NO Change.
Exactly.
Anonymous
04/08/2017 13:34
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Even if she were why should you care? None of you care that Trump did it so on the unlikely off chance Hillary magically was you should be fine with it.
Who says none of us care that Trump did it? There's no evidence that Trump did it! You libs are talking as if it's a proven fact. If it turns out he coordinated with the Russians to win the election, I'd be for impeachment.
Either way it won't lead to Trump and will likely sputter out. I find it sad the liberals are hanging onto this instead of figuring out how to fix their party. They need to pick a better candidate next time.
Look at who your party chose.
Talk to me some more about bad candidates. At least ours wasn't put there by Russia.
Meh, Russians maybe. According to the NYT CIA uses tools that mimic Russian digital fingerprints. May have been an inside deep state job after she wouldn't come clean about her home brew server setup. Doesn't really matter though, the Susan Rice story is by far a bigger threat to a republic --political parties using state intelligence apparatus against their enemies. That is a BIG problem...
I hope you realize that when you use terms like "deep state" you unmask yourself as an Alex Jones type of nutcase and everyone else who reads this thread rolls their eyes at you.
Seriously.
Anonymous
04/08/2017 13:13
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Even if she were why should you care? None of you care that Trump did it so on the unlikely off chance Hillary magically was you should be fine with it.
Who says none of us care that Trump did it? There's no evidence that Trump did it! You libs are talking as if it's a proven fact. If it turns out he coordinated with the Russians to win the election, I'd be for impeachment.
Either way it won't lead to Trump and will likely sputter out. I find it sad the liberals are hanging onto this instead of figuring out how to fix their party. They need to pick a better candidate next time.
Look at who your party chose.
Talk to me some more about bad candidates. At least ours wasn't put there by Russia.
Meh, Russians maybe. According to the NYT CIA uses tools that mimic Russian digital fingerprints. May have been an inside deep state job after she wouldn't come clean about her home brew server setup. Doesn't really matter though, the Susan Rice story is by far a bigger threat to a republic --political parties using state intelligence apparatus against their enemies. That is a BIG problem...
Political parties using RUSSIAN state intelligence apparachik's against their enemies is a bigger problem.
Anonymous
04/08/2017 10:46
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Even if she were why should you care? None of you care that Trump did it so on the unlikely off chance Hillary magically was you should be fine with it.
Who says none of us care that Trump did it? There's no evidence that Trump did it! You libs are talking as if it's a proven fact. If it turns out he coordinated with the Russians to win the election, I'd be for impeachment.
Either way it won't lead to Trump and will likely sputter out. I find it sad the liberals are hanging onto this instead of figuring out how to fix their party. They need to pick a better candidate next time.
Look at who your party chose.
Talk to me some more about bad candidates. At least ours wasn't put there by Russia.
Meh, Russians maybe. According to the NYT CIA uses tools that mimic Russian digital fingerprints. May have been an inside deep state job after she wouldn't come clean about her home brew server setup. Doesn't really matter though, the Susan Rice story is by far a bigger threat to a republic --political parties using state intelligence apparatus against their enemies. That is a BIG problem...
Anonymous
04/06/2017 13:23
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Finally we'll see real positive change. Thankfully the best candidate did win. Border arrests are the lowest in 17 years, stock market is doing well. Obama and Hillary equal NO Change.
Anonymous
04/06/2017 13:03
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Even if she were why should you care? None of you care that Trump did it so on the unlikely off chance Hillary magically was you should be fine with it.
Who says none of us care that Trump did it? There's no evidence that Trump did it! You libs are talking as if it's a proven fact. If it turns out he coordinated with the Russians to win the election, I'd be for impeachment.
Either way it won't lead to Trump and will likely sputter out. I find it sad the liberals are hanging onto this instead of figuring out how to fix their party. They need to pick a better candidate next time.
Look at who your party chose.
Talk to me some more about bad candidates. At least ours wasn't put there by Russia.
Anonymous
04/06/2017 12:28
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Even if she were why should you care? None of you care that Trump did it so on the unlikely off chance Hillary magically was you should be fine with it.
Who says none of us care that Trump did it? There's no evidence that Trump did it! You libs are talking as if it's a proven fact. If it turns out he coordinated with the Russians to win the election, I'd be for impeachment.
Either way it won't lead to Trump and will likely sputter out. I find it sad the liberals are hanging onto this instead of figuring out how to fix their party. They need to pick a better candidate next time.
Yes, the Dems need to pick a better candidate. So do the Reps, since all of their candidates lost, too.
Anonymous
04/06/2017 12:21
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Even if she were why should you care? None of you care that Trump did it so on the unlikely off chance Hillary magically was you should be fine with it.
Who says none of us care that Trump did it? There's no evidence that Trump did it! You libs are talking as if it's a proven fact. If it turns out he coordinated with the Russians to win the election, I'd be for impeachment.
Either way it won't lead to Trump and will likely sputter out. I find it sad the liberals are hanging onto this instead of figuring out how to fix their party. They need to pick a better candidate next time.
Anonymous
04/06/2017 12:17
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Deflecting back to Hilary again. How about answering why the Trump campaign is being investigated (since July). Hilary is not being investigated. AND the pay-to-play has been debunked. SO.....back to the issue at hand.... RUSSIA. Does it bother you that the campaign is being investigated by the FBI and was possibly colluding with foreign agents????
A) Pay-to-play has not been debunked. The investigation of the CF was not closed.
B) If the campaign was colluding, of course it would bother me. But the Trump adversaries have been making that allegation for months, and there is no evidence of it. So far, the only thing we have is that Russia leaked some embarrassing emails about the DNC's unethical behavior (while disclosing Podesta's incompetence). It's like the libs are saying "hey....it's unethical for Russia to disclose how unethical we are!"
C) Finally, it is not a deflection to point out Hillary's questionable dealings with adversarial counties. It's an effort to demonstrate the hypocrisy of the liberals. They didn't seem to care that Hillary was granting favors (i.e., uranium sales) to our adversary (i.e., Russia) in exchange for CF contributions and Bill's speaking fees.
Everything you commented has been proven to be false. There was no Hillary uranium deal. There's tons of Russia evidence. You might as well be saying the earth isn't proven to be round and could still be flat. Stop destroying your brain with Fox and abreitbart. It is such a sad waste of a human life to be this moronic.
Sorry, but everything said is true. Continue to call people who voted differently than you "morons," and you'll continue to lose elections.
The PP wasn't calling people who voted differently than him morons. He specifically call YOU a moron for puppeting information that is known to be false. Either you have no grasp on the truth OR you are purposely spouting disinformation on behalf of Putin (which, according to Senate testimony is still occurring). Which is it?
What's false? That Hillary sold Russia the uranium they wanted and got $2 million for the Clinton Foundation and $600K in speaking fees for her husband? Or that there's no evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians? As I said, if it is proven that Trump DID collude, I'm for impeachment. Until then, it's just a bunch of sorry losers who still can't face that they lost the election.
It in a nutshell. The Dems and the media are not learning their lesson. Trump will win another term if they don't figure it out.
Anonymous
04/06/2017 09:56
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:
The PP wasn't calling people who voted differently than him morons. He specifically call YOU a moron for puppeting information that is known to be false. Either you have no grasp on the truth OR you are purposely spouting disinformation on behalf of Putin (which, according to Senate testimony is still occurring). Which is it?
What's false? That Hillary sold Russia the uranium they wanted and got $2 million for the Clinton Foundation and $600K in speaking fees for her husband? Or that there's no evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians? As I said, if it is proven that Trump DID collude, I'm for impeachment. Until then, it's just a bunch of sorry losers who still can't face that they lost the election.
Look up Roger Stone and Rudy Giulini and how they miraculously called the Podesta hack and the "october suprise" hours/days before they happened. Look at how the Wikileaks dump came within hours of the "I grabbed them by the Pussy" video. Look at the thousands of paid Russian trolls infecting US sites, including probably, this one: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html?utm_term=.2b6d18e3bfaa
Someone had to go through the Hillary emails and determine what might be politically useful and determine a "spin" to put on them to inflict the most damage (ie weaponize) - I highly doubt it was a Russian who did that. If it turns out it was someone like Stone or other Trump team, then there will be a serious problem.
Anonymous
04/06/2017 09:09
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Deflecting back to Hilary again. How about answering why the Trump campaign is being investigated (since July). Hilary is not being investigated. AND the pay-to-play has been debunked. SO.....back to the issue at hand.... RUSSIA. Does it bother you that the campaign is being investigated by the FBI and was possibly colluding with foreign agents????
A) Pay-to-play has not been debunked. The investigation of the CF was not closed.
B) If the campaign was colluding, of course it would bother me. But the Trump adversaries have been making that allegation for months, and there is no evidence of it. So far, the only thing we have is that Russia leaked some embarrassing emails about the DNC's unethical behavior (while disclosing Podesta's incompetence). It's like the libs are saying "hey....it's unethical for Russia to disclose how unethical we are!"
C) Finally, it is not a deflection to point out Hillary's questionable dealings with adversarial counties. It's an effort to demonstrate the hypocrisy of the liberals. They didn't seem to care that Hillary was granting favors (i.e., uranium sales) to our adversary (i.e., Russia) in exchange for CF contributions and Bill's speaking fees.
Everything you commented has been proven to be false. There was no Hillary uranium deal. There's tons of Russia evidence. You might as well be saying the earth isn't proven to be round and could still be flat. Stop destroying your brain with Fox and abreitbart. It is such a sad waste of a human life to be this moronic.
Sorry, but everything said is true. Continue to call people who voted differently than you "morons," and you'll continue to lose elections.
The PP wasn't calling people who voted differently than him morons. He specifically call YOU a moron for puppeting information that is known to be false. Either you have no grasp on the truth OR you are purposely spouting disinformation on behalf of Putin (which, according to Senate testimony is still occurring). Which is it?
What's false? That Hillary sold Russia the uranium they wanted and got $2 million for the Clinton Foundation and $600K in speaking fees for her husband? Or that there's no evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians? As I said, if it is proven that Trump DID collude, I'm for impeachment. Until then, it's just a bunch of sorry losers who still can't face that they lost the election.
DEBUNKED. http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/
Since you refuse to click on the link, let me provide a synopsis: (And yes, I even included the parts that say the Foundation did make some mistakes). Your statements have been debunked, yet you keep making them.
Sec. of State Hillary Clinton's approval of a deal to transfer control of 20% of U.S. uranium deposits to a Russian company was a quid pro quo exchange for donations to the Clinton Foundation. See Example(s)
RATING: FALSE
ORIGIN
In the months leading up to the 2016 United States presidential election, stories abounded about the relationships between the Clinton Foundation and various foreign entities.
May 2015 saw the publication of a book called Clinton Cash: The Untold Story of How and Why Foreign Governments and Businesses Helped Make Bill and Hillary Rich, an exposé of alleged Clinton Foundation corruption written by Peter Schweizer, a former Hoover Institution fellow and editor-at-large at the right-wing media company Breitbart.
A chapter in the book suggests that the Clinton family and Russia each may have benefited from a “pay-for-play” scheme while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, involving the transfer of U.S. uranium reserves to the new Russian owners of an international mining operation in exchange for $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation.
The mining company, Uranium One, was originally based in South Africa, but merged in 2007 with Canada-based UrAsia Energy. Shareholders there retained a controlling interest until 2010, when Russia’s nuclear agency, Rosatom, completed purchase of a 51% stake. Hillary Clinton played a part in the transaction because it involved the transfer of ownership of a material deemed important to national security — uranium, amounting to one-fifth of U.S. reserves — thus requiring the approval of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), on which the U.S. Secretary of State sits.
During the same time frame that the acquisition took place, Schweizer claims in Clinton Cash, the Clinton Foundation accepted contributions from nine individuals associated with Uranium One totaling more than $100 million. Among those who followed him in citing the transaction as an example of alleged Clinton corruption was GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, who said during a June 2016 speech in New York City:
Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton Foundation.
Trump’s campaign repeated the allegation in a September 2016 press release, and again in an October 2016 television ad stating that Clinton “gave American uranium rights to the Russians”:
An image circulating via social media during the final months of the presidential campaign asked the question, “So Hillary, if Russia is such a threat, why did you sell them 20% of our uranium? Are you a liar, or a traitor, or both?”
clinton-uranium
The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve
Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters.
Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.
A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:
NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.
The timing of most of the donations does not match
Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, the lion’s share — $131.3 million — came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the company’s founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state.
Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer, the company’s chairman:
His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.
The timing of Telfer’s donations might be questionable if there was reason to believe that Hillary Clinton was instrumental in the approval of the deal with Russia, but all the evidence points to the contrary — that Clinton did not play a pivotal role, and, in fact, may not have played any role at all.
Foundation admits disclosure mistakes
One fault investigations into the Clinton Foundation’s practices did find was that not all of the donations were properly disclosed — specifically, those of Uranium One Chairman Ian Telfer between 2009 and 2012. The foundation admitted this shortcoming and pledged to correct it, but as the Guardian pointed out in its May 2015 discussion of Clinton Cash, the fact that it happened is reason enough to sound alarm bells:
It is also true that large donations to the foundation from the chairman of Uranium One, Ian Telfer, at around the time of the Russian purchase of the company and while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, were never disclosed to the public. The multimillion sums were channeled through a subsidiary of the Clinton Foundation, CGSCI, which did not reveal its individual donors.
Such awkward collisions between Bill’s fundraising activities and Hillary’s public service have raised concerns not just among those who might be dismissed as part of a vast right-wing conspiracy.
An enormous volume of interest and speculation surrounds the workings of the Clinton Foundation, which is to be expected. Given the enormous sums of money it controls and the fact that it is run by a former U.S. president who is married to a possible future U.S. president, the foundation deserves all the scrutiny it gets, and more.
At the same time, for the sake of accuracy it’s crucial to differentiate between partisan accusations and what we actually know about it — however little that may be.
Anonymous
04/06/2017 09:00
Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This whole story has me wondering if the previous administration surveilled the Romney campaign.
We would never know.
Was the Romney campaign speaking and coordinating with foreign adversaries?
If so, yes.
Do we know if Hillary's campaign was coordinating with foreign adversaries? There certainly was a lot of pay-to-play going on during her tenure as Sos.
Deflecting back to Hilary again. How about answering why the Trump campaign is being investigated (since July). Hilary is not being investigated. AND the pay-to-play has been debunked. SO.....back to the issue at hand.... RUSSIA. Does it bother you that the campaign is being investigated by the FBI and was possibly colluding with foreign agents????
A) Pay-to-play has not been debunked. The investigation of the CF was not closed.
B) If the campaign was colluding, of course it would bother me. But the Trump adversaries have been making that allegation for months, and there is no evidence of it. So far, the only thing we have is that Russia leaked some embarrassing emails about the DNC's unethical behavior (while disclosing Podesta's incompetence). It's like the libs are saying "hey....it's unethical for Russia to disclose how unethical we are!"
C) Finally, it is not a deflection to point out Hillary's questionable dealings with adversarial counties. It's an effort to demonstrate the hypocrisy of the liberals. They didn't seem to care that Hillary was granting favors (i.e., uranium sales) to our adversary (i.e., Russia) in exchange for CF contributions and Bill's speaking fees.
Everything you commented has been proven to be false. There was no Hillary uranium deal. There's tons of Russia evidence. You might as well be saying the earth isn't proven to be round and could still be flat. Stop destroying your brain with Fox and abreitbart. It is such a sad waste of a human life to be this moronic.
Sorry, but everything said is true. Continue to call people who voted differently than you "morons," and you'll continue to lose elections.
The PP wasn't calling people who voted differently than him morons. He specifically call YOU a moron for puppeting information that is known to be false. Either you have no grasp on the truth OR you are purposely spouting disinformation on behalf of Putin (which, according to Senate testimony is still occurring). Which is it?
What's false? That Hillary sold Russia the uranium they wanted and got $2 million for the Clinton Foundation and $600K in speaking fees for her husband? Or that there's no evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians? As I said, if it is proven that Trump DID collude, I'm for impeachment. Until then, it's just a bunch of sorry losers who still can't face that they lost the election.