Anonymous
Post 02/10/2017 09:55     Subject: Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If well-done, vouchers will be a boom to the middle class.

Finally you can decide between public, charters, essentially free parochials and very affordable private schools.


Dream about it.

There will be more for profit charters. That's all.


You mean dreaming is bad?


+1
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2017 09:54     Subject: Re:Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She won't have the votes to pass her voucher law. She'll spin her wheels and disappear. I'm at the point where I hope the DoE does, too. We did better without them before 1979. Give states huge incentives to improve SAT scores and college access for subgroups, throw big bonus money at those who succeed and be done with it.


Competition is a poor way to run public institutions because it encourages cheating, rewards the rich while punishing the poor, and exacerbates inequalities. This was most recently demonstrated by Race To The Top.


I agree. Competition also punts on developing good policy directly. Develop good policy and fund it directly -- eg IDEA.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2017 09:53     Subject: Re:Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!
Anonymous wrote:She won't have the votes to pass her voucher law. She'll spin her wheels and disappear. I'm at the point where I hope the DoE does, too. We did better without them before 1979. Give states huge incentives to improve SAT scores and college access for subgroups, throw big bonus money at those who succeed and be done with it.


Yes, and it would get rid of predatory for-profit colleges, student loan debt collectors and servicers. States would be forced to step up to fund their public institutions and provide student loans. Student loan costs would likely go up but I think on balance it would be better for higher education.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2017 08:30     Subject: Re:Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!
Anonymous wrote:She won't have the votes to pass her voucher law. She'll spin her wheels and disappear. I'm at the point where I hope the DoE does, too. We did better without them before 1979. Give states huge incentives to improve SAT scores and college access for subgroups, throw big bonus money at those who succeed and be done with it.


Competition is a poor way to run public institutions because it encourages cheating, rewards the rich while punishing the poor, and exacerbates inequalities. This was most recently demonstrated by Race To The Top.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2017 07:18     Subject: Re:Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!
She won't have the votes to pass her voucher law. She'll spin her wheels and disappear. I'm at the point where I hope the DoE does, too. We did better without them before 1979. Give states huge incentives to improve SAT scores and college access for subgroups, throw big bonus money at those who succeed and be done with it.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2017 21:40     Subject: Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If well-done, vouchers will be a boom to the middle class.

Finally you can decide between public, charters, essentially free parochials and very affordable private schools.


Dream about it.

There will be more for profit charters. That's all.


You mean dreaming is bad?


Dreaming can be great. Confusing it for reality is dangerous.


Tell that to MLK.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2017 21:27     Subject: Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If well-done, vouchers will be a boom to the middle class.

Finally you can decide between public, charters, essentially free parochials and very affordable private schools.


Dream about it.

There will be more for profit charters. That's all.


You mean dreaming is bad?


Dreaming can be great. Confusing it for reality is dangerous.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2017 21:23     Subject: Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If well-done, vouchers will be a boom to the middle class.

Finally you can decide between public, charters, essentially free parochials and very affordable private schools.


Dream about it.

There will be more for profit charters. That's all.


You mean dreaming is bad?