Anonymous
12/21/2015 15:47
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Most Jews observe rosh hashanah and Yom Kippur even if they don't wear kippot outside of a synagogue.
Depends on what you mean by "most".
The Pew Research Center in 2013 identified as Jewish anybody who responded that (a) that their religion is Jewish, or (b) that aside from religion they consider themselves to be Jewish or partially Jewish, or (c) that they were raised Jewish or had at least one Jewish parent, even if they do not consider themselves Jewish today.
Of these people, 40% seldom or never attended Jewish religious services, 53% fasted for all or part of Yom Kippur, and 32% had a Christmas tree.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/sidebar-who-is-a-jew/
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-4-religious-beliefs-and-practices/
They don't ask whether they work or attend school on these holidays. How is this relevant?
Most is something more than the majority.
Anonymous
12/21/2015 15:46
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Most Jews observe rosh hashanah and Yom Kippur even if they don't wear kippot outside of a synagogue.
Depends on what you mean by "most".
The Pew Research Center in 2013 identified as Jewish anybody who responded that (a) that their religion is Jewish, or (b) that aside from religion they consider themselves to be Jewish or partially Jewish, or (c) that they were raised Jewish or had at least one Jewish parent, even if they do not consider themselves Jewish today.
Of these people, 40% seldom or never attended Jewish religious services, 53% fasted for all or part of Yom Kippur, and 32% had a Christmas tree.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/sidebar-who-is-a-jew/
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-4-religious-beliefs-and-practices/
They don't ask whether they work or attend school on these holidays. How is this relevant?
Anonymous
12/21/2015 15:33
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:The Pew Research Center is generally not considered a credible source. And why are you so determined to denigrate Jews in MoCo??
Since when? What is your source?
Anonymous
12/21/2015 15:32
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
I agree with the posters who say they know more Jewish kids who attend public schools than private. I know 2 Jewish families who have kids in private (Jewish) schools. Compared to about 20 families attending public. This is in Rockville.
I think I know more Catholic kids who attend private than attend public.
I think I know more Catholic kids who attend private than attend public.
Anonymous
12/21/2015 15:25
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:The Pew Research Center is generally not considered a credible source. And why are you so determined to denigrate Jews in MoCo??
It's not? Says who?
Also, who is insulting Jews in Montgomery County? Not me, and I'm the PP you're responding to. I myself am a Jew in Montgomery County. I seldom attend religious services, I don't fast for Yom Kippur, and I don't have a Christmas tree.
Anonymous
12/21/2015 15:22
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
The Pew Research Center is generally not considered a credible source. And why are you so determined to denigrate Jews in MoCo??
Anonymous
12/21/2015 15:19
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Most Jews observe rosh hashanah and Yom Kippur even if they don't wear kippot outside of a synagogue.
Depends on what you mean by "most".
The Pew Research Center in 2013 identified as Jewish anybody who responded that (a) that their religion is Jewish, or (b) that aside from religion they consider themselves to be Jewish or partially Jewish, or (c) that they were raised Jewish or had at least one Jewish parent, even if they do not consider themselves Jewish today.
Of these people, 40% seldom or never attended Jewish religious services, 53% fasted for all or part of Yom Kippur, and 32% had a Christmas tree.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/sidebar-who-is-a-jew/
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-4-religious-beliefs-and-practices/
Anonymous
12/21/2015 14:49
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
This is ridiculous. Most Jews observe rosh hashanah and Yom Kippur even if they don't wear kippot outside of a synagogue.
Anonymous
12/21/2015 13:46
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:13:23, racist much?
Please ask your schools PTA to have the Jews wear yellow stars so that you can identify them more easily.
It's not racist.
It does display a misunderstanding, though. You can be (and many people are) observant without being Orthodox.
Anonymous
12/21/2015 13:44
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:13:23, racist much?
Please ask your schools PTA to have the Jews wear yellow stars so that you can identify them more easily.
Yes, that's exactly it. No. But it does seem that Torah observant Jews (including those in my peer group) have more private school options in Montgomery County than their equally observant Muslim counterparts. Ditto Catholics and 7th Day Adventist, all of whom have multiple religious school options in the county.
So, if we are trying to figure out the impact of having a certain religious holiday off, the real question shouldn't be "How many Muslims are there compared to other groups in the county" but "How many Muslims are there compared to other groups in the public schools."
Anonymous
12/21/2015 13:40
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
13:23, racist much?
Please ask your schools PTA to have the Jews wear yellow stars so that you can identify them more easily.
Please ask your schools PTA to have the Jews wear yellow stars so that you can identify them more easily.
Anonymous
12/21/2015 13:23
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know this is hard data to get, but what I would be interested to know isn't just how many Jews, Catholics, Muslims, etc. are in Montgomery County, but how many are in MCPS.
There are many religious school options for Catholic, Christian, and Jewish students in Montgomery County. Most of the observant Jews I know use private religious schools. This is going to bring down the % of kids in public schools even if they are county residents.
On the other hand, I am not aware of a single private religious option for Muslim students, which will push up their representation in MCPS.
I know muslims who send their kids to a muslim school. They live in montgomery county but the school is in PG.
Most jewish people do not send their kids to religious schools. The above document states 11% Jewish in the county.
Yeah, I don't think it would shift the numbers that much, but I do think it would be interesting. My kids' school has a good number of visibly observant Muslim families but no visibly observant Jewish ones (no kippas, no tzitzit, no wigs or hair coverings at drop off). Now, I realize that you can't tell someone's religion by looking at them, but I'm talking about people who are observant enough to have the "trappings" of religion.
Anonymous
12/21/2015 13:15
Subject: Earlier start date proposed for MCPS
Anonymous wrote:I know this is hard data to get, but what I would be interested to know isn't just how many Jews, Catholics, Muslims, etc. are in Montgomery County, but how many are in MCPS.
There are many religious school options for Catholic, Christian, and Jewish students in Montgomery County. Most of the observant Jews I know use private religious schools. This is going to bring down the % of kids in public schools even if they are county residents.
On the other hand, I am not aware of a single private religious option for Muslim students, which will push up their representation in MCPS.
I know muslims who send their kids to a muslim school. They live in montgomery county but the school is in PG.
Most jewish people do not send their kids to religious schools. The above document states 11% Jewish in the county.