Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:44     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Also, do you think that poor people might be more involved parents if they didn't have to spend so much time dealing with poverty (for example, working multiple jobs with irregular hours and long commutes, or housing insecurity, or food insecurity)?


Just my experience--but the kids least prepared for school are the children of the non-working. And, sadly, the parents are frequently trading food stamps for other things.



In this case, I think the parents should have to take a mandatory parenting class to get the food stamps.


Why should only poor parents have to take a mandatory parenting class? Are only poor parents bad parents? Are all poor parents bad parents? Are there middle-class and rich parents who are bad parents? What if you used to be middle class but then lost your job and needed food stamps -- do you suddenly become a bad parent? And then if you find another job and don't need food stamps again, you become a good parent again?
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:42     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Standards change curricula.


And, you think that will mean the kids will meet the standards? You are incredibly naïve.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:42     Subject: "Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
If we did away with standardized testing and national standards, I'm curious how websites like greatschools would rank ES. What would they base it on? If every district/state had their own standards, you really couldn't use any kind of test scores to rank since it would be comparing apples to oranges.

And if this should happen, what would DCUM parents use to find the so-called great schools?
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:40     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Nobody ever said that the Common Core standards would fix all of the many problems in education.


I have yet to see any problem that Common Core standards will fix.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:38     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
I'm sorry to hear this. Do you think CC standards could help them in any way?


LOL! Are you serious? Standards do not change behavior. Cc is based on the idea that the teachers are not teaching what is appropriate. That is an erroneous belief.


Standards change curricula.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:38     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:
Explain how having the same standards across states is going to really make a difference on the ground if the other problems are not solved. What kind of a difference are you expecting? Or are they only going to be used to fire teachers through the testing/evaluation mandate and that is what you are hoping will make the difference? Will states who have lots of "failures" be raising the salaries of teachers in order to attract better ones (even though they are probably the states that lack money)? Will the feds be pumping money into those states in bigger amounts? What is the long view here?


Please answer if possible. The lower SES kids are going to be helped the least by this method (if this is the though process).


Nobody ever said that the Common Core standards would fix all of the many problems in education.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:38     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests

I'm sorry to hear this. Do you think CC standards could help them in any way?


When kids still cannot count to ten with one to one correspondence, Common Core standards are not going to help at all.

Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:36     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
I'm sorry to hear this. Do you think CC standards could help them in any way?


LOL! Are you serious? Standards do not change behavior. Cc is based on the idea that the teachers are not teaching what is appropriate. That is an erroneous belief.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:17     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Parents are watching television--but they do not turn it to Sesame Street.



Best post today. LOL.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:16     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Many times they know how to raise their children, but don't have time or resources to do it right (same as the teachers who are overburdened by all kinds of bureaucratic stuff).


I disagree. The kids I taught had parents who truly did not know that reading to their kids was important. These were parents who had time on their hands. They were not working.



I'm sorry to hear this. Do you think CC standards could help them in any way?
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:14     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
OK, so there are lots of problems, not including heterogeneous standards among the states, and the solutions for those problems are...?


Don't have solutions to all of them. I would start by eliminating the testing portion of NCLB. That would allow teachers to teach rather than train young children.



Good start. Plus it saves money that can be used for other initiatives that are more important. There would be a positive change in outcomes if this happened. The tests are not increasing educational levels. The opposite has happened.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:12     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Parents are watching television--but they do not turn it to Sesame Street.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:10     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Many times they know how to raise their children, but don't have time or resources to do it right (same as the teachers who are overburdened by all kinds of bureaucratic stuff).


I disagree. The kids I taught had parents who truly did not know that reading to their kids was important. These were parents who had time on their hands. They were not working.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:10     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
Anonymous wrote:

Also, do you think that poor people might be more involved parents if they didn't have to spend so much time dealing with poverty (for example, working multiple jobs with irregular hours and long commutes, or housing insecurity, or food insecurity)?


Just my experience--but the kids least prepared for school are the children of the non-working. And, sadly, the parents are frequently trading food stamps for other things.



In this case, I think the parents should have to take a mandatory parenting class to get the food stamps.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2015 13:09     Subject: Re:"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests
overcrowded schools


solution: build schools