Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 14:26     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Fpr anyone who thinks Hardy is going to be turned around quickly as a result of Principal Pride improving the academic environment and providing more opportunities for every student at Hardy, this thread is distressing.

There is way more going on with IB families attitude towards Hardy than meets the eye.

Test scores may be a part of it, but there is quite a bit more - perception or reality - that is keeping IB families out of Hardy.


My guess is that a few, bitter, shell-shocked IB families from the fateful 2010 meeting with Rhee are trying to get eternal revenge. Don't let them do it.

They had their heads turned by the hotshot, nationally recognized DCPS chancellor who sorely disappointed them, dashing their hopes and making them look ridiculous. They may choose to sulk about it and try to undermine Hardy ad infinitum , but the rest of use don't have to get taken in by them.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 14:18     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It still hasn't been explained why some teachers apparently have a chip on their shoulder about in-boundary families. Is it just that they hold a years-old grudge about Rhee's plans for change? That's not healthy.


This thread is going to make me lose my mind. Stop spreading these false rumors if you know nothing about Hardy or its teachers.

I know about both, and I'll say it again: NOBODY AT HARDY - TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, STUDENTS, CUSTODIANS, OR ANYBODY - TREATS IB STUDENTS ANY DIFFERENT THAN THEY TREAT OOB STUDENTS. TEACHERS DON'T CARE IF A STUDENT IS IB OR OOB. THEY DON'T HAVE A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER ABOUT IB STUDENTS. THEY HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW, AND THEY HAVE NO TIME OR INTEREST IN DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN IB OR OOB. THEY ARE TOO BUSY TEACHING ALL OF THEIR STUDENTS.

How do I know this? Because I am a Hardy IB parent.

I don't know who is spreading these nasty rumors - maybe they are charter boosters or parents who are trying to justify their decision to pay for a $30,000 a year private school. Maybe they are potential Hardy parents who get all the news just can't help themselves and get all the news from know-nothing parents on the playground. Whoever you are, please stop spreading this false and nasty rumor.


Having been in the same room and heard with my own ears people who are still Hardy teachers make quite categorical statements about in-boundary families, I have to respectfully disagree.


No fair spreading innuendo. Are you referring to that meeting in 2010? If not, exactly when? Really, teachers are making "categorical" statements about all sorts of things every day -- like everyone else.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 14:16     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It still hasn't been explained why some teachers apparently have a chip on their shoulder about in-boundary families. Is it just that they hold a years-old grudge about Rhee's plans for change? That's not healthy.


This thread is going to make me lose my mind. Stop spreading these false rumors if you know nothing about Hardy or its teachers.

I know about both, and I'll say it again: NOBODY AT HARDY - TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, STUDENTS, CUSTODIANS, OR ANYBODY - TREATS IB STUDENTS ANY DIFFERENT THAN THEY TREAT OOB STUDENTS. TEACHERS DON'T CARE IF A STUDENT IS IB OR OOB. THEY DON'T HAVE A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER ABOUT IB STUDENTS. THEY HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW, AND THEY HAVE NO TIME OR INTEREST IN DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN IB OR OOB. THEY ARE TOO BUSY TEACHING ALL OF THEIR STUDENTS.

How do I know this? Because I am a Hardy IB parent.

I don't know who is spreading these nasty rumors - maybe they are charter boosters or parents who are trying to justify their decision to pay for a $30,000 a year private school. Maybe they are potential Hardy parents who get all the news just can't help themselves and get all the news from know-nothing parents on the playground. Whoever you are, please stop spreading this false and nasty rumor.


Having been in the same room and heard with my own ears people who are still Hardy teachers make quite categorical statements about in-boundary families, I have to respectfully disagree.



PP, do you have an IB child attending Hardy? If not, please refrain from implying that you have any idea how IB students are treated at Hardy. There is already enough ill-informed speculation on this thread without you adding more.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 14:13     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Fpr anyone who thinks Hardy is going to be turned around quickly as a result of Principal Pride improving the academic environment and providing more opportunities for every student at Hardy, this thread is distressing.

There is way more going on with IB families attitude towards Hardy than meets the eye.

Test scores may be a part of it, but there is quite a bit more - perception or reality - that is keeping IB families out of Hardy.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 13:52     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It still hasn't been explained why some teachers apparently have a chip on their shoulder about in-boundary families. Is it just that they hold a years-old grudge about Rhee's plans for change? That's not healthy.


This thread is going to make me lose my mind. Stop spreading these false rumors if you know nothing about Hardy or its teachers.

I know about both, and I'll say it again: NOBODY AT HARDY - TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, STUDENTS, CUSTODIANS, OR ANYBODY - TREATS IB STUDENTS ANY DIFFERENT THAN THEY TREAT OOB STUDENTS. TEACHERS DON'T CARE IF A STUDENT IS IB OR OOB. THEY DON'T HAVE A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER ABOUT IB STUDENTS. THEY HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW, AND THEY HAVE NO TIME OR INTEREST IN DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN IB OR OOB. THEY ARE TOO BUSY TEACHING ALL OF THEIR STUDENTS.

How do I know this? Because I am a Hardy IB parent.

I don't know who is spreading these nasty rumors - maybe they are charter boosters or parents who are trying to justify their decision to pay for a $30,000 a year private school. Maybe they are potential Hardy parents who get all the news just can't help themselves and get all the news from know-nothing parents on the playground. Whoever you are, please stop spreading this false and nasty rumor.


Having been in the same room and heard with my own ears people who are still Hardy teachers make quite categorical statements about in-boundary families, I have to respectfully disagree.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 13:25     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:It still hasn't been explained why some teachers apparently have a chip on their shoulder about in-boundary families. Is it just that they hold a years-old grudge about Rhee's plans for change? That's not healthy.


There's no explaining to be done -- it was just one person (on DCUM) who suggested that might be the case. It was the first and hopefully the last time we'll hear of it.

You're right about it being unhealthy to hold a grudge though and it's unhealthier still to make one up. If you're IB Hardy, please pass that along to your neighbors.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 13:19     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Thankfully, your numbers are few and diminishing rapidly. Now I ask just one thing -- please be quiet about this -- talk among yourselves. No need to poison the future.



I understood STFU the first time, no need to keep repeating yourself.


That wasn't me. and my intent is not to stifle you, it's to get beyond the past so Hardy has a better chance to educate kids in the future.


I am actually grateful that various PPs have explained this 2010 issue a bit. I didn't know about it, but had noticed the racial tension in these Hardy threads and had been wondering where it was coming from. Now I have more of an idea.

Still, this, too, shall pass. Didn't Marion Barry organize some kind of protest about Deal a few years back when they replaced the principal? And Deal is thriving. So it's likely Hardy will be able to overcome this too.


Me too -- I was aware of it at the time, but the conversation here awakened me to the possibility that for some some IB parents, It's not enough that past bitterness keeps them away from Hardy. Their wounds are so deep that they don't ever want Hardy to succeed with more IB kids in it.

And I agree -- Hardy will be able to overcome this. Not all IB parents are bitter and not all who were bitter will stay that way. And those who do will have less and less influence over other families.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 12:31     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Thankfully, your numbers are few and diminishing rapidly. Now I ask just one thing -- please be quiet about this -- talk among yourselves. No need to poison the future.



I understood STFU the first time, no need to keep repeating yourself.


That wasn't me. and my intent is not to stifle you, it's to get beyond the past so Hardy has a better chance to educate kids in the future.


I am actually grateful that various PPs have explained this 2010 issue a bit. I didn't know about it, but had noticed the racial tension in these Hardy threads and had been wondering where it was coming from. Now I have more of an idea.

Still, this, too, shall pass. Didn't Marion Barry organize some kind of protest about Deal a few years back when they replaced the principal? And Deal is thriving. So it's likely Hardy will be able to overcome this too.


A prior post quipped that Hardy should arrange to have Barry protest changes there as well. That would surely cause IB parents to give the school a serious second look.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 12:26     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:It still hasn't been explained why some teachers apparently have a chip on their shoulder about in-boundary families. Is it just that they hold a years-old grudge about Rhee's plans for change? That's not healthy.


This thread is going to make me lose my mind. Stop spreading these false rumors if you know nothing about Hardy or its teachers.

I know about both, and I'll say it again: NOBODY AT HARDY - TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS, STUDENTS, CUSTODIANS, OR ANYBODY - TREATS IB STUDENTS ANY DIFFERENT THAN THEY TREAT OOB STUDENTS. TEACHERS DON'T CARE IF A STUDENT IS IB OR OOB. THEY DON'T HAVE A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER ABOUT IB STUDENTS. THEY HAVE NO WAY TO KNOW, AND THEY HAVE NO TIME OR INTEREST IN DIFFERENTIATING BETWEEN IB OR OOB. THEY ARE TOO BUSY TEACHING ALL OF THEIR STUDENTS.

How do I know this? Because I am a Hardy IB parent.

I don't know who is spreading these nasty rumors - maybe they are charter boosters or parents who are trying to justify their decision to pay for a $30,000 a year private school. Maybe they are potential Hardy parents who get all the news just can't help themselves and get all the news from know-nothing parents on the playground. Whoever you are, please stop spreading this false and nasty rumor.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 12:02     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Thankfully, your numbers are few and diminishing rapidly. Now I ask just one thing -- please be quiet about this -- talk among yourselves. No need to poison the future.



I understood STFU the first time, no need to keep repeating yourself.


That wasn't me. and my intent is not to stifle you, it's to get beyond the past so Hardy has a better chance to educate kids in the future.


I am actually grateful that various PPs have explained this 2010 issue a bit. I didn't know about it, but had noticed the racial tension in these Hardy threads and had been wondering where it was coming from. Now I have more of an idea.

Still, this, too, shall pass. Didn't Marion Barry organize some kind of protest about Deal a few years back when they replaced the principal? And Deal is thriving. So it's likely Hardy will be able to overcome this too.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 11:53     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
It still hasn't been explained why some teachers apparently have a chip on their shoulder about in-boundary families. Is it just that they hold a years-old grudge about Rhee's plans for change? That's not healthy.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 10:32     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:OMG! It's like someone lifted the lid off a jar of venomous snakes. It's all spilling out. A school on the rise"?!? Not quite yet it seems. Hardy ...more like Hardly.


Are you one of the snakes? If so, get back in your jar
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2014 00:32     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
OMG! It's like someone lifted the lid off a jar of venomous snakes. It's all spilling out. A school on the rise"?!? Not quite yet it seems. Hardy ...more like Hardly.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2014 23:06     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:Unless you have an IB student at Hardy, you have no business guessing or implying or stating as a fact that there are teachers, administrators, or OB families that treat IB kids and families poorly.

I'm an IB parent. My kid is treated exactly the same as every kid at Hardy - not special, not better, not worse. He's treated the same by teachers, by his fellow students, and by everyone else associated with the school. My child is treated quite well and is a peer to his fellow students, whether they are IB or OOB.

As Hardy parents, we are treated exactly like every other Hardy family by teachers, administrators, and by everyone associated with the school. We are treated well.

Heck, who thinks that students care? Who thinks that Hardy teachers have the time to figure out who is IB and who is OOB, and then mistreat the IB students?

Believe me, this is a non-issue. Hardy's teachers educate children. Some are great; some are average; a few are poor. But none of them cares about which student is IB and which is OOB.


And as soon as the myth dissipates - because the few who are perpetuating it finally let it die - we can all move on.
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2014 23:00     Subject: So how many IB are going to really be at Hardy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Rhee is gone. Pope is gone. Let's move on.


But the teachers remain...


The parents -- hopefully few -- who want the teachers gone, would never send their kids to Hardy anyhow.