Anonymous
Post 07/15/2013 14:48     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't high processing speed exactly what a child needs to keep up in an advanced classroom?


No


One would think so, but they give the child extra time for tests and other special accomodations so they can keep up. It's just like real life.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2013 12:49     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores


--Thanks for clarifying. I didn't know that this is what the cmte does/did for kids who are 2E.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2013 09:46     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pattern is...if you want in, appeal, and they'll let you in.


Having read these threads for three years now, I firmly believe the number one determinant of acceptance into AAP is how hard the parent wants to push for it.

Strange how those who push also qualify.


On the contrary, those who qualify, push.


maybe they qualify because they push. Know one mom whose kid was denied three times and finally got in on appeal. Never quit trying
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2013 09:44     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pattern is...if you want in, appeal, and they'll let you in.


Having read these threads for three years now, I firmly believe the number one determinant of acceptance into AAP is how hard the parent wants to push for it.

Strange how those who push also qualify.


On the contrary, those who qualify, push.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2013 08:26     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:Plenty of kids with IQs over 130 doing fine in their base schools. To me, it's hard to make the argument that crossing that threshold should entitle anyone to go to AAP. But then again, I think the centers are pretty much reverse busing that no one complains about because their kids get something out of it, screw the folks who can't afford it. The sooner FCPS closes this loophole -- whether by making more schools LLIV or making it an even playing field for anyone who wants to appeal to get WISC testing, the better.

Thee are not "plenty of kids with IQs over 132" in the first place. LOT of exaggeration here.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2013 08:24     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pattern is...if you want in, appeal, and they'll let you in.


Having read these threads for three years now, I firmly believe the number one determinant of acceptance into AAP is how hard the parent wants to push for it.

Strange how those who push also qualify.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2013 08:23     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:Isn't high processing speed exactly what a child needs to keep up in an advanced classroom?


No
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2013 08:22     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Isn't high processing speed exactly what a child needs to keep up in an advanced classroom?
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2013 23:24     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Also Low processing speed isn't indicative of IQ. Given that w/o the low processing score the FSIQ was above 130, it isn't surprising that your kid got in on appeal.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2013 23:21     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:PP, I have to disagree. My DC scored a 119 on the WISC, but scored very superior in the PRI and VCI sub categories. I wasn't going to appeal but a poster on another thread suggested that I appeal, as FCPS is beginning to recognize 2E kids. FWIW - an extremely low processing speed brought down the FSIQ, w/o the low processing, the score was well above 132. DC has an obvious processing issue - more than likely
ADD-inattentive. DC is very bright, almost all 4s, except for organization ; a 3. DC had the scores on the NNAT and GBRS were above 10. I did appeal and DC got in.

To other DCUMs, I would suggest that you appeal if you, in your heart, believe that your DC would be successful in AAP. Our Wisc administrator advised against appealing, and we almost didn't appeal. If it weren't for another DCUMer, I wouldn't have appealed. So glad I listened to the DCUMer.


Your child is 2E with ADD so the appeals committee threw out the FSIQ and looked at the subscores which is standard practice for students with special needs. Unless there is a diagnosis, it generally isn't worth appealing with a WISC FSIQ<130 no matter what the parent feels "in their heart".
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2013 21:04     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
PP, I have to disagree. My DC scored a 119 on the WISC, but scored very superior in the PRI and VCI sub categories. I wasn't going to appeal but a poster on another thread suggested that I appeal, as FCPS is beginning to recognize 2E kids. FWIW - an extremely low processing speed brought down the FSIQ, w/o the low processing, the score was well above 132. DC has an obvious processing issue - more than likely
ADD-inattentive. DC is very bright, almost all 4s, except for organization ; a 3. DC had the scores on the NNAT and GBRS were above 10. I did appeal and DC got in.

To other DCUMs, I would suggest that you appeal if you, in your heart, believe that your DC would be successful in AAP. Our Wisc administrator advised against appealing, and we almost didn't appeal. If it weren't for another DCUMer, I wouldn't have appealed. So glad I listened to the DCUMer.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2013 18:29     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pattern is...if you want in, appeal, and they'll let you in.


Having read these threads for three years now, I firmly believe the number one determinant of acceptance into AAP is how hard the parent wants to push for it.


This sounds right. It looks like 100% in on appeal--can that be right? Or, are we just see cases where 120s+ and ok GBRS, e.g., others aren't appealing?


Yes, not worth appealing if not 130+ with ok GBRS. The people who administer the WISC will tell you whether it's worth appealing with the WISC.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2013 15:26     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pattern is...if you want in, appeal, and they'll let you in.


Having read these threads for three years now, I firmly believe the number one determinant of acceptance into AAP is how hard the parent wants to push for it.


This sounds right. It looks like 100% in on appeal--can that be right? Or, are we just see cases where 120s+ and ok GBRS, e.g., others aren't appealing?
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2013 15:58     Subject: Re:GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
Plenty of kids with IQs over 130 doing fine in their base schools. To me, it's hard to make the argument that crossing that threshold should entitle anyone to go to AAP. But then again, I think the centers are pretty much reverse busing that no one complains about because their kids get something out of it, screw the folks who can't afford it. The sooner FCPS closes this loophole -- whether by making more schools LLIV or making it an even playing field for anyone who wants to appeal to get WISC testing, the better.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2013 15:38     Subject: GT/AAP Appeals WISC Scores
If by "pushing hard" you mean "paying for a WISC", then I agree with you. All but 3 of the kids listed above as being admitted on appeal have IQs of 130 or above. But I don't consider having a WISC done "pushing hard". I see that as a parent taking a reasonable step to make sure the committee has all relevant information. In the cases above, it seems that the committee recognized that the initial denial was flawed due to incomplete information. It just goes to show that if a parent believes the denial was wrong, they should WISC and appeal if it's over 130. But that definitely skews in favor of those who can afford to have the WISC done. Note - my DC was admitted first round, so I have no dog in this fight.