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Anonymous wrote:Back to topic. Any big movements expected in these age ranges? Maybe for 33s? 34 big movement (full teams switching clubs was the rumor, ie, HOCO trying to go HOCO—>M&D) seems to be shut down. MDU seems to be falling apart at many age groups and possibly the 34 and 33 are two of them?

I do think this is the age where you will see some movement within teams. Especially after this heated season. I am curious as to why Hoco 34 is creating a white team though. While 34 black is doing amazing their 34 pink team didn't fair well this past weekend and their 35 black team who was in the same division as 34 pink dominated the competition and won the championship. Why build another team if your pink team isn't dominating as well ? Also how does that even work with having 3 teams. Don't all teams only have 1-2 teams per age group?

Technically M&D now has more than that per age group if you group M&D main, M&D DC and M&D Shore? Just a matter of semantics?

What? It’s not the same at all. M&D Shore and DC and Orlando and Minneapolis are in entirely different locales and they are not B and C and D and E teams of the original M&D.

A HOCO White team is for $$$. I have no real info but my guess is that two rec teams and coaches wanted something more then rec going into 5th grade (where rec falls apart) but somehow didn’t want to split up and try out for Pink (which seems odd). HOCO said sure we’ll take your money and curate a schedule and experience for a C team.

Girls lacrosse clubs don’t do this that I’ve seen. Hero’s could get enough if they wished. This is more a soccer club model. SAC has layers upon layers of teams. Since HOCO has a unique connection to the county rec program, they appear to be leveraging for any advantage they can get and for more coaches and players and ultimately $$.

M&D bought other programs. 2 completely different scenarios.

You don't tryout for the main M&D and end up on a shore team because you got cut from Black and Red.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to topic. Any big movements expected in these age ranges? Maybe for 33s? 34 big movement (full teams switching clubs was the rumor, ie, HOCO trying to go HOCO—>M&D) seems to be shut down. MDU seems to be falling apart at many age groups and possibly the 34 and 33 are two of them?

I do think this is the age where you will see some movement within teams. Especially after this heated season. I am curious as to why Hoco 34 is creating a white team though. While 34 black is doing amazing their 34 pink team didn't fair well this past weekend and their 35 black team who was in the same division as 34 pink dominated the competition and won the championship. Why build another team if your pink team isn't dominating as well ? Also how does that even work with having 3 teams. Don't all teams only have 1-2 teams per age group?

Technically M&D now has more than that per age group if you group M&D main, M&D DC and M&D Shore? Just a matter of semantics?

Why build another team? $$$$

Anonymous wrote:Back to topic. Any big movements expected in these age ranges? Maybe for 33s? 34 big movement (full teams switching clubs was the rumor, ie, HOCO trying to go HOCO—>M&D) seems to be shut down. MDU seems to be falling apart at many age groups and possibly the 34 and 33 are two of them?

I do think this is the age where you will see some movement within teams. Especially after this heated season. I am curious as to why Hoco 34 is creating a white team though. While 34 black is doing amazing their 34 pink team didn't fair well this past weekend and their 35 black team who was in the same division as 34 pink dominated the competition and won the championship. Why build another team if your pink team isn't dominating as well ? Also how does that even work with having 3 teams. Don't all teams only have 1-2 teams per age group?

Hate to break it to you, no one but you and your “friend” are even reading those posts. Snoooooze and just dumb. Start your own thread if you wish to continue.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s review:

~ 40 players on each team.
x 5 championship teams
= ~ 200 players (total pool)

Original analysis claimed 4 players from M&D

Actual number = 7 (why you think that’s a major victory is beyond me but I’m loving this).

I also feel like I have to say this for you:

7-4 = (wait for it) 3

A difference of three players in a data pool of 200 players is immaterial.

We realize it means way more to you since you’re a M&D homer, but statistically speaking, it is meaningless.

The best part? You’ve been consumed with checking this board every 30 mins for days and I’ve just logged in.

This is so much fun!

Not PP, but we can all agree you suck. Incorrect data, and obviously you have a grudge against m&d

Yes, you’re the PP - and we can all agree you just got owned.

Back to topic. Any big movements expected in these age ranges? Maybe for 33s? 34 big movement (full teams switching clubs was the rumor, ie, HOCO trying to go HOCO—>M&D) seems to be shut down. MDU seems to be falling apart at many age groups and possibly the 34 and 33 are two of them?

This is lame and nothing to do with this topic. Can someone lock this?

Anonymous wrote:Let’s review:

~ 40 players on each team.
x 5 championship teams
= ~ 200 players (total pool)

Original analysis claimed 4 players from M&D

Actual number = 7 (why you think that’s a major victory is beyond me but I’m loving this).

I also feel like I have to say this for you:

7-4 = (wait for it) 3

A difference of three players in a data pool of 200 players is immaterial.

We realize it means way more to you since you’re a M&D homer, but statistically speaking, it is meaningless.

The best part? You’ve been consumed with checking this board every 30 mins for days and I’ve just logged in.

This is so much fun!

Not PP, but we can all agree you suck. Incorrect data, and obviously you have a grudge against m&d

Let’s review:

~ 40 players on each team.
x 5 championship teams
= ~ 200 players (total pool)

Original analysis claimed 4 players from M&D

Actual number = 7 (why you think that’s a major victory is beyond me but I’m loving this).

I also feel like I have to say this for you:

7-4 = (wait for it) 3

A difference of three players in a data pool of 200 players is immaterial.

We realize it means way more to you since you’re a M&D homer, but statistically speaking, it is meaningless.

The best part? You’ve been consumed with checking this board every 30 mins for days and I’ve just logged in.

This is so much fun!

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Anonymous wrote:That so-called data was so wrong. You should be embarrassed.

Not the PP but I wanted to dig into this to see what the facts really showed. Here's what I found (before anyone gets rabid, know that I have the names of every player from the past five years and their club affiliation. I don't want to bombard this forum with this data, but I will if people want to see it.)

* The OP's numbers about M&D players were inaccurate. But not by much: The OP claimed 4 M&D players were on D1 championship teams over the past five years. The correct number is 7.

* The club with the most players on these teams is Yellow Jackets (17). Right behind YJ is Mass Elite (16). Skywalkers is third (12). Then it's Top Guns (9), Grizzlies (9), HHH (8), Salt City Snipers (8), and Steps Elite (8). M&D is next (7), followed by Phantastix (6), Laxachusetts (5), 3d Colorado (5), and Capital (4).

* The OP's numbers weren't accurate, but the question he / she posed is relevant: M&D consistently ranks as one of the top high school club teams in the country. But their numbers are lower than other teams -- certainly lower than most would expect given their club success.

These number only reflect the National Championship winner for the last 5 years, which reflects even fewer teams seeing as there have been repeat winners. Certain colleges tend to pull from certain areas and clubs - especially when Northwestern is in the mix.

HIS point was proven - but it’s a useless data point to begin with - unless you’re looking at your fourth grade daughter and thinking the only acceptable dream is to win a National Championship in 9 or so years.

What point was proven? That if National Championship teams in the last 5 years came from places that recruit other areas than Maryland primarily, that not many Maryland players will be recruited? Color me shocked.

Using a sample size of one team per year as measuring stick for recruiting success is pretty absurd isn’t it?

Especially when the reality is 16-18 players per team are really the ones that decide the result of the game and the other 20-25 aren’t.

Then that clown show refused to double check their numbers after a mistake was pointed out. Insisting the rest must be correct unless someone else double checks for him. Now someone else has, and it turns out there were 2 more that they conveniently omitted. Because of course.
HoCo dad, just maybe?

Before people spike any more footballs, identifying two additional players from a list of ~200 players is pretty immaterial - a 1.5% margin of error, well under the industry margin-of-error standard of +3% - +5%. What is notable is that M&D’s player ratio on these teams over the last 4 years (as far back as stats are available) is just 1.5 when the team’s average ranking over the same period was 3.5.

LMAO. You had 4. The number is 7. That is a 75% margin of error and you don't do stats well or understand what margin of error means. In addition to forging them and not being able or willing to check your work. And being pompous about it.

Please stop posting your garbage takes unless you do it for a sample size of maybe final four teams, or 10 years. And have someone check it for you.

The margin of error is based on the data pool, idiot.

quote]You are the dumbest person I know. What you did was quote the Margin of Error re: @ a 95% Confidence level (the most common industry standard).
Here:
The industry standard for the margin of error (MOE) is \(\pm 3\%\) at a 95% confidence level. This means that if you surveyed a population and got a result, you can be 95% certain that the true value is within 3 percentage points higher or lower than your result.

That assumes 2 things -- you took enough of a SAMPLE SIZE for it to be 3 (or 5%). Then, it's industry standard.
That the actual population that you're shooting for is much larger for that sample size.

However, you know nothing about statistics, so to fill you in:
HAD this been a sample size 200 of a much greater population (20,000? 1 million?) then you could get a true margin of error calculated for that sample size, and the MOE would be +/- 6.93%. Because the sample size is so small.

But it's not even a sample size. That's the ENTIRE population that you chose. You do not and cannot use "margin of error" in the way you want to use it -- because it's for sample sizes of an entire population. So instead of explaining all of this to you because it's way over your head, I pointed out what YOUR ERROR was off in a simple exercise like counting people. Something a normal 4th grader would know how to do.

Go HoCo!!!

What I love more is that you've been checking this page every 15 seconds to see if I've responded lol. Livin' in that dome of yours!

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Anonymous wrote:That so-called data was so wrong. You should be embarrassed.

Not the PP but I wanted to dig into this to see what the facts really showed. Here's what I found (before anyone gets rabid, know that I have the names of every player from the past five years and their club affiliation. I don't want to bombard this forum with this data, but I will if people want to see it.)

* The OP's numbers about M&D players were inaccurate. But not by much: The OP claimed 4 M&D players were on D1 championship teams over the past five years. The correct number is 7.

* The club with the most players on these teams is Yellow Jackets (17). Right behind YJ is Mass Elite (16). Skywalkers is third (12). Then it's Top Guns (9), Grizzlies (9), HHH (8), Salt City Snipers (8), and Steps Elite (8). M&D is next (7), followed by Phantastix (6), Laxachusetts (5), 3d Colorado (5), and Capital (4).

* The OP's numbers weren't accurate, but the question he / she posed is relevant: M&D consistently ranks as one of the top high school club teams in the country. But their numbers are lower than other teams -- certainly lower than most would expect given their club success.

These number only reflect the National Championship winner for the last 5 years, which reflects even fewer teams seeing as there have been repeat winners. Certain colleges tend to pull from certain areas and clubs - especially when Northwestern is in the mix.

HIS point was proven - but it’s a useless data point to begin with - unless you’re looking at your fourth grade daughter and thinking the only acceptable dream is to win a National Championship in 9 or so years.

What point was proven? That if National Championship teams in the last 5 years came from places that recruit other areas than Maryland primarily, that not many Maryland players will be recruited? Color me shocked.

Using a sample size of one team per year as measuring stick for recruiting success is pretty absurd isn’t it?

Especially when the reality is 16-18 players per team are really the ones that decide the result of the game and the other 20-25 aren’t.

Then that clown show refused to double check their numbers after a mistake was pointed out. Insisting the rest must be correct unless someone else double checks for him. Now someone else has, and it turns out there were 2 more that they conveniently omitted. Because of course.
HoCo dad, just maybe?

Before people spike any more footballs, identifying two additional players from a list of ~200 players is pretty immaterial - a 1.5% margin of error, well under the industry margin-of-error standard of +3% - +5%. What is notable is that M&D’s player ratio on these teams over the last 4 years (as far back as stats are available) is just 1.5 when the team’s average ranking over the same period was 3.5.

LMAO. You had 4. The number is 7. That is a 75% margin of error and you don't do stats well or understand what margin of error means. In addition to forging them and not being able or willing to check your work. And being pompous about it.

Please stop posting your garbage takes unless you do it for a sample size of maybe final four teams, or 10 years. And have someone check it for you.

The margin of error is based on the data pool, idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That so-called data was so wrong. You should be embarrassed.

Not the PP but I wanted to dig into this to see what the facts really showed. Here's what I found (before anyone gets rabid, know that I have the names of every player from the past five years and their club affiliation. I don't want to bombard this forum with this data, but I will if people want to see it.)

* The OP's numbers about M&D players were inaccurate. But not by much: The OP claimed 4 M&D players were on D1 championship teams over the past five years. The correct number is 7.

* The club with the most players on these teams is Yellow Jackets (17). Right behind YJ is Mass Elite (16). Skywalkers is third (12). Then it's Top Guns (9), Grizzlies (9), HHH (8), Salt City Snipers (8), and Steps Elite (8). M&D is next (7), followed by Phantastix (6), Laxachusetts (5), 3d Colorado (5), and Capital (4).

* The OP's numbers weren't accurate, but the question he / she posed is relevant: M&D consistently ranks as one of the top high school club teams in the country. But their numbers are lower than other teams -- certainly lower than most would expect given their club success.

These number only reflect the National Championship winner for the last 5 years, which reflects even fewer teams seeing as there have been repeat winners. Certain colleges tend to pull from certain areas and clubs - especially when Northwestern is in the mix.

HIS point was proven - but it’s a useless data point to begin with - unless you’re looking at your fourth grade daughter and thinking the only acceptable dream is to win a National Championship in 9 or so years.

What point was proven? That if National Championship teams in the last 5 years came from places that recruit other areas than Maryland primarily, that not many Maryland players will be recruited? Color me shocked.

Using a sample size of one team per year as measuring stick for recruiting success is pretty absurd isn’t it?

Especially when the reality is 16-18 players per team are really the ones that decide the result of the game and the other 20-25 aren’t.

Then that clown show refused to double check their numbers after a mistake was pointed out. Insisting the rest must be correct unless someone else double checks for him. Now someone else has, and it turns out there were 2 more that they conveniently omitted. Because of course.
HoCo dad, just maybe?

Before people spike any more footballs, identifying two additional players from a list of ~200 players is pretty immaterial - a 1.5% margin of error, well under the industry margin-of-error standard of +3% - +5%. What is notable is that M&D’s player ratio on these teams over the last 4 years (as far back as stats are available) is just 1.5 when the team’s average ranking over the same period was 3.5.

LMAO. You had 4. The number is 7. That is a 75% margin of error and you don't do stats well or understand what margin of error means. In addition to forging them and not being able or willing to check your work. And being pompous about it.

Please stop posting your garbage takes unless you do it for a sample size of maybe final four teams, or 10 years. And have someone check it for you.